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Two Separate Hate-Crime Murders by White Supremacists

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posted on May, 31 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: odinsway

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You, per usual, ignore everything that doesn't stroke your confirmation bias. I get it, you grew up in Cuba as an anti-Communist. I have no doubt your life as a child was hard and I empathize. This however is no excuse to ignore the reality that there's shades of Left just as there's shades of Right.

I'm really not interested in having another argument with you or anyone else about where on the spectrum Nazi's fall. It takes a special kind of mental impairment to deny they are far right authoritarian. We lefties like multiculturalism and relaxed immigration, remember? Christian isn't a Nazi though he said he'd join Trumps SS... he isn't anything but hatred twisted into insanity.

Jeremy Christian was all over the place, he was crazy and full of hate for minorities. He supported Bernie at one point and now supports Trump but that is meaningless which I've clearly stated more than once. So yes, had you read, you wouldn't need to ask.

Fact of the mater is he will be prosecuted. Trying to stir up the fake he was a right wing terrorist story holds no purpose. Justice will be served whether black, white , brown or other.


So were you gonna acknowledge that pictures have been posted from the member who you attempted to call BS on? Or just continue on with your douchebaggery as if you missed it?




posted on May, 31 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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Updates from court arraignment, and patrol car video:


-- A video camera inside a patrol car captured Christian saying, "I just stabbed a bunch of (expletive) in their neck. ... I can die in prison a happy man," the affidavit said. He said one of the men on the train kept resisting him, despite his threats. "That's what liberalism gets you," Christian said.


THAT is far right wing, I don't care what anyone says.


"Think I stab (expletives) in the neck for fun? Oh yeah, you're right I do. I'm a patriot."



"I hope they all die. I'm gonna say that on the stand. I'm a patriot, and I hope everyone I stabbed died."



-- Train security cameras showed Christian taking "large drinks from a bladder style container of purple liquid" that Christian later identified as Sangria wine,



Jeremy Joseph Christian began yelling when he walked into the courtroom Tuesday.
"Get out if you don't like free speech," he said, and, "You call it terrorism, I call it patriotism. You hear me? Die."



-- He was sentenced to 90 months in prison for the 2002 armed robbery of a Portland convenience store. While fleeing, Christian was shot in the head by an officer who said he thought Christian was going to shoot him. Christian said he robbed the market because " the guy there doesn't sell any winning lottery tickets," the arresting officer said, according to a prosecutor's affidavit.


Shot in the head? Maybe he does have some degree of brain damage, to which is postings and actions seem to point.


Video showed Christian swinging his arm and -- in one motion -- opening the knife and stabbing Fletcher in the neck, the affidavit said. Christian next stabbed Namkai-Meche twice in the neck, the affidavit said.
Ricky John Best, 53, of Happy Valley moved forward to intervene and was stabbed in the neck, the affidavit said. Christian pushed Best into Namkai-Meche and stabbed both men again, the affidavit said.



"Pay taxes!"
"Get the f*** out!"
"Go home. We need Americans here!" Christian screamed, according to the affidavit.


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Sick guy.
edit on 31-5-2017 by Liquesence because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence

Seems like quite a candidate for the horseshoe theory: he went so far left that he skipped across the aisle and wound up on the right.



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

That seems very plausible.



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence

Sounds like he should have been in a mental facility. People called police on him all the time. We need much better mental health care in this country.



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

I agree, he does seem pretty nuts; I also agree our mental health system is fairly screwed up, which either pumps people full of various meds, or simply doesn't adequately address or attempt to fix the problems or the underlying causes themselves.

From what I can tell, there have been no official mental health issues with Christian, even though it appears he has had issues for a while (which is a serious problem, culminating in this). Of course, not much information is available, and the investigation into his history is ongoing.



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Liquesence

Sounds like he should have been in a mental facility. People called police on him all the time. We need much better mental health care in this country.


He should have been in prison. He was just as hateful before the head wound... which is why he got the head wound.

He's not insane; he's an extremist.



posted on Jun, 1 2017 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: Kali74

It isn't I who is ignoring the obvious. He is crazy that's for certain. But he describes himself as an "Anarcho-Nihilist" who sympathizes with communists, and nazis.

Do you even know what nihilism is?


Definition of nihilism

1
a : a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless
Nihilism is a condition in which all ultimate values lose their value.
— Ronald H. Nash
b : a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths

2
a : a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibilityb capitalized : the program of a 19th century Russian party advocating revolutionary reform and using terrorism and assassination
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www.merriam-webster.com...

He also refers to himself as an "anarchist" who agrees amongst others with "sartre" whom "wikipedia" refers to as 'one of the leading figures in in 20th-century French philosophy and Marxism. Of course, he is so demented that refers to himself as believing in nihilism and at the same time apparently agreeing with "camus" whose life was devoted to opposing nihilism.

As for your claims that "I ignore all the shades of left as there's shades of right"... It is you who apparently believes everyone in the left believes the same things you do. Which is wrong of course... National socialists don't believe in "multiculturalism and relaxed immigration"... Then there are examples of "lefties" like Liberal Muslim Woman Speaks Up on Why She Voted For Trump. who also don't believe in "relaxed immigration".

As for the hate this murderer has?... You are going to stand there and claim that there are no people in the left who hate like him?... Plenty of examples throughout history has shown that "different shades of left-wing ideologues" would fight amongst each other. Heck, we saw examples in the rioting from the left against Trump becoming President that lefties would turn against lefties because of the blind hatred a lot in the left have.


A man was attacked and beaten at the Berkeley rioting but he turned out to be in the group that they were supposedly defending from President Trumps policies.

According to a college reporter he was a Syrian Muslim.
...


Berkeley rioters attacked man who ‘looked like a Nazi’ – here’s what he actually was

Here is another...Heavily armed left-wing group tries to intimidate liberal reporter filming them. It doesn’t work.

i am not saying there are no extremists in the right. But this man is not part of any right-wing group as he describes himself as an "anarcho-nihilist".

BTW, in case you didn't know "national socialism" isn't an entirely "white ideology"... Heck, Ghandi was a national socialist, and in fact there is a branch of "national socialism" named after him...

Gandhian socialism is the branch of socialism based on the nationalist interpretation of the theories of the founding father of the Republic of India, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. Gandhian socialism generally centres on Hind Swaraj or Indian Home Rule authored by Gandhi.
..
Gandhian socialism

Then there are other branches of not only socialism, but national socialism like:



Jatiyo Samajtantrik Dal (National Socialist Party), Bangladesh (socialist)
National Revolutionary Socialist Party, India (Marxist/Leftist)
National Socialist Council of Nagaland, India (Maoist)
National Socialist Party of Tripura, India (Tripuri nationalist)
Iranian National Socialist Party (est. 1952) (pro-Hitler, anti-Semitic (both anti-Arab and anti-Jew), anti-Turk)
Syrian Social Nationalist Party (secular, nationalist, pro-Syria, fascist)
Egyptian National Socialist Party (est.2010)
...

en.wikipedia.org...

As for the contradictions that this murderer shows?... Similar contradictions can be seen in other people who lean to the left politically.




edit on 1-6-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Jun, 2 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: odinsway

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You, per usual, ignore everything that doesn't stroke your confirmation bias. I get it, you grew up in Cuba as an anti-Communist. I have no doubt your life as a child was hard and I empathize. This however is no excuse to ignore the reality that there's shades of Left just as there's shades of Right.

I'm really not interested in having another argument with you or anyone else about where on the spectrum Nazi's fall. It takes a special kind of mental impairment to deny they are far right authoritarian. We lefties like multiculturalism and relaxed immigration, remember? Christian isn't a Nazi though he said he'd join Trumps SS... he isn't anything but hatred twisted into insanity.

Jeremy Christian was all over the place, he was crazy and full of hate for minorities. He supported Bernie at one point and now supports Trump but that is meaningless which I've clearly stated more than once. So yes, had you read, you wouldn't need to ask.

Fact of the mater is he will be prosecuted. Trying to stir up the fake he was a right wing terrorist story holds no purpose. Justice will be served whether black, white , brown or other.


So were you gonna acknowledge that pictures have been posted from the member who you attempted to call BS on? Or just continue on with your douchebaggery as if you missed it?

No. I can download a pic from the net also.


(post by odinsway removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jun, 2 2017 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Your gibberish is too tedious to bother with.



posted on Jun, 2 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: odinsway

No need to send me love notes via u2u, buddy. Just because you're easily triggered isn't my fault, nor is it my problem.



posted on Jun, 7 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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Update:

So, now this guy is claiming "self defense."


The man accused of killing two men and wounding a third who tried to stop his anti-Muslim tirade against two teenagers on a Portland, Oregon, light-rail train shouted he was "not guilty" Wednesday during a courtroom outburst directed at one of the victims.

Jeremy Christian, 35, didn't enter a formal plea during his brief court appearance but said he was "not guilty of anything but defending myself against the violent aggression by Micah Fletcher!"


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