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Once at risk of extinction, iconic Warthog plane lives on

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posted on May, 27 2017 @ 12:23 AM
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They are old and ugly.

They are brutality at 10,000 feet.

I have seen first hand what they can do; they are absolutely terrifying...

I have also seen what they can do, with a skilled pilot at the stick. Graceful... beautiful to watch.

The perfect blend of elegance, and lethality...
edit on 27-5-2017 by madmac5150 because: My cat corrected my punctuation




posted on May, 27 2017 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: madmac5150

And at what point do we say, "Yes, it's a great aircraft, and we know you love it, but..." I know how much the grunts love it, but...

The Air Force is in the worst shape I've ever seen, or heard of. We don't need to keep hundreds of aircraft flying, at millions of dollars a year for morale, or because it keeps jobs going in some Congresscreature's district.

When do we say that the mission that is out there is more important?



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 12:28 AM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

If it takes them two hours out and two hours back, with an hour on target, you just spent $30,000 to strafe a building.

A true COIN platform, which is what is needed far more than using B-1s, or F-15s, or A-10s, such as the A-29, will run less than $14M per airframe, and anywhere from $450-1,000 an hour to do the same mission.

Just as you don't need a super high tech platform to fight a country that barely has a military, you also don't need what we have over there. Sometimes going low tech is better.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 12:30 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: madmac5150

And at what point do we say, "Yes, it's a great aircraft, and we know you love it, but..." I know how much the grunts love it, but...

The Air Force is in the worst shape I've ever seen, or heard of. We don't need to keep hundreds of aircraft flying, at millions of dollars a year for morale, or because it keeps jobs going in some Congresscreature's district.

When do we say that the mission that is out there is more important?


Well, the only replacement on the horizon is the F-35. Great stand-off capability, but CAS means flying low enough for the bullet to meet the meat. The A-10 is a ruggedized airframe; built for abuse.

One of my ducks could bring down an F-35, if we left their wings un-clipped.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 12:36 AM
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a reply to: madmac5150

No, it really doesn't anymore. They're using B-1s and B-52s to do CAS in Afghanistan at times. Strafing requires getting down in the weeds but CAS is a totally different game now that PGMs are the go to weapon.

A duck could bring any aircraft down, and has at some point.
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posted on May, 27 2017 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: madmac5150

No, it really doesn't anymore. They're using B-1s and B-52s to do CAS in Afghanistan at times. Strafing requires getting down in the weeds but CAS is a totally different game now that PGMs are the go to weapon.

A duck could bring any aircraft down, and has at some point.


Maybe I am just sentimental... but you have to admit, she keeps proving her worth over and over... the DOD wanted to axe the A-10 before Desert Storm.

27 years later... the A-10 is still a formidable weapon...

With the HOG-UP/SLEP and C model upgrades...

...they may outfly the BUFFs



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 12:47 AM
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a reply to: madmac5150

They won't even get close. Heh.

Like I said, I love the Hog. I'm just tired of keeping equipment around because some Congressional idiot won't give up the 10 jobs in their district it brings in.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:12 AM
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a reply to: madmac5150

I raise my glass to you,
and thank you for your service.

Rock N Roll

S&F



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:14 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

You Said It.
Best.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

True,
but are you certain about
what the next mission will be?

You know Mil Ops,
nothing ever goes as planned.

Can't we afford to waste some,
to be prepared for the unexpected?

I just want craft/gear that works.
Just in case.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:23 AM
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a reply to: Wildmanimal

It won't be tanks rolling across Europe. The A-10 is good for a low to medium intensity conflict, but there's no mission, besides taking on large numbers of armored vehicles, that you HAVE to have an A-10 to perform.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:25 AM
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In the end a 30mm gun is bad ass anyway you look at it... lol

I think it keeps getting taken off the block because the world has not made it obsolete yet no matter how old it is. One thing to think about is ammo keeps getting better and better. Think of an A-10 with smart ammo that can seek it's target.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Kind of like in the Asian Peninsula?
My friends at Lockheed hate me anyway,
so cheers to you.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:30 AM
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a reply to: Wildmanimal

Even there, you don't HAVE to have an A-10 for anything. And you don't keep 200 aircraft around specifically for one small theater.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:31 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Your God Damn Right.
2nd Line.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 01:41 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

That of course is if you happen to know
exactly what your opponent has in their
inventory.

The data seems rather murky these days,
and that can of worms is no small theater.
Courtesy of Stalin no less.

If it got hot, we do know that tanks and artillery are
exactly plentiful there, and in a ground boot scenario
this aircraft is well proven.
I mean really, are you going to fly an asphyxiated raptor
in there?
Good God Almighty!

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posted on May, 27 2017 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
Even there, you don't HAVE to have an A-10 for anything. And you don't keep 200 aircraft around specifically for one small theater.

It did a rather nasty job in Iraq...is the world that much different that tanks and armored vehicles are obsolete?



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 02:52 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

No one said they were. But there are weapons that can be carried by other aircraft that can stop them. And no one has them in the numbers to justify keeping almost 300 A-10s, except China and Russia. And both of them have defenses that can mix in with their armored vehicles that would swat attacking A-10s down before they even got close.

Iraq was 14 years ago, and had hardly any defenses when they went in. The point is that, like most of the rest of the Air Force, A-10s can't handle a serious air defense system anymore.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 03:52 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Ah Yes,
Except China and Russia.
Hmmm.



posted on May, 27 2017 @ 04:01 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Auction them off, I bet they'd make one hell of a cropduster with a few mods.




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