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Wisconsin seeks to be first to drug test Medicaid applicants

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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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“Gov. Scott Walker wants to make Wisconsin the first state in the country to require childless adults applying for Medicaid to undergo drug screening, a move that could serve as a national model.”
Wisconsin Governor Walker was warned by former President Barack Hussain Obama's administration, that the requirement, if passed, would be barred under federal law. Gov. Walker's drug-testing and work-requirement, plans it take effect in 2019. The law would first need approval from Republican President Donald Trump's administration. Jon Peacock, research director of the Wisconsin Council on Children and Families states,” I do think that there's a good chance Wisconsin would be the first state to get such a waiver and it could indeed set a trend. People who refuse a drug test would be ineligible for coverage until the test is completed, while people who test positive would get treatment paid for by taxpayers through the Medicaid program.




posted on May, 25 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: Violater1

Well, that's one way of keeping costs down and cleaning people up, you must admit. If they're footing the bill, they should be able to do that, unfortunately. Maybe not randoms, but one to get onto the program.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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Only if they test me to take the taxes out of my check.

If I fail the test, take no taxes because I don't meet your backwards idea of what a productive little worker is.

Lost freedoms.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:01 PM
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And if a person trying to get onto the program fails their entry test, they should be allowed to retake the test after a certain amount of time to get off of the crack or heroin or prescriptions without a prescription or the pot and be referred to a counseling center if they choose to go or do it on their own. Seems fair to me. Those drugs just cause more health related issues that cost even more money for medicaid. This coming from a guy who used to do plenty but doesn't anymore. The pot in particular is most harmless and I personally think it should be legal but you know they're going to throw that in there too because they're from an older generation.
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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Violater1

Only if they test me to take the taxes out of my check.

If I fail the test, take no taxes because I don't meet your backwards idea of what a productive little worker is.

Lost freedoms.


What?
Please explain.
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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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I disagree with this-if you test positive, we will not help you? Guess what happens next?

Old out dated punishment based thinking-is it working?



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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Yeah he lost me with that. Is he saying he's paying the taxes out of a check for the drug testing?

Or, test him to be able to take taxes from his check?

Not sure if..



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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When taking the money to pay for medicare there is no test (taxes). Only to get the benefits people have paid into for decades?

What about weight restrictions? How about the many many other risks that add to costs.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: r0xor

I disagree with this-if you test positive, we will not help you? Guess what happens next?

Old out dated punishment based thinking-is it working?



People who refuse a drug test would be ineligible for coverage until the test is completed, while people who test positive would get treatment paid for by taxpayers through the Medicaid program.
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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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They will help you by telling you you have a problem and need help, if you refuse help they with hold medical insurance.
Guess what happens next?

Now in cases of hard drug addiction, they have a point. The devil is in the details.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: r0xor
a reply to: Violater1

Well, that's one way of keeping costs down and cleaning people up, you must admit. If they're footing the bill, they should be able to do that, unfortunately. Maybe not randoms, but one to get onto the program.


It looks like they are going after pot smokers the most.. Nobody who smokes pot needs "cleaning up".. It does not turn you into a junkie like hard drugs or alcohol (chronic use) does. This wont stop people from doing hard drugs as much since they only stay in your system for a couple of days, plenty of time to clear up when your scheduled for a test.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Violater1
When taking the money to pay for medicare there is no test (taxes). Only to get the benefits people have paid into for decades?

What about weight restrictions? How about the many many other risks that add to costs.


How long have you been paying for a drivers license? So while driving, you get a ticket for violating the law. Are you going to tell the judge," I shouldn't get a ticket because I've paid for the privilege to drive?"
You are still responsible for violating the law, no?



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:15 PM
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Apples and wall clocks-


A license is not there to protect you if you fall ill and need help for a while or longer.

Do they do blood tests to get drivers licenses? Or is that another brilliant idea?

How about blood testing before hunting licenses?



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:15 PM
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This is getting interesting. So should medicaid pay to send fat people to weight loss clinics if they're over a weight limit to be able to get onto the program?


They don't drug test you to take the taxes because they assume you're a law abiding citizen but we all know that isn't the case. Not you in particular, but many in the workforce. Every single person I know that has a job does some form of drugs. Be it pot, legal internet drugs, prescriptions (legit), prescription (from someoneone else) or alcohol. I drink too but I'm just sayin'. Plus that's way too many drug tests to perform on the majority of the population for no apparent reason and would be considered a major overreach. Also, tons of people would lose their jobs and it'd mess up the economy. This is for people wanting free medical paid for by you so why should they test you? They need your money. We all know money rules everything.
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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:15 PM
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'Bout time. Then go after the party store owners who will sell them a single cigarette for $2.00...or buy their food stamps for $$...or let that card be used for liquor instead of food.

On assistance? Buy drugs? Ya dont need assisstance....



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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Yup, if I'm forced to pay into their system, they should be forced to pay for my healthcare. Lifestyle choices should not matter!

Having to pay into a system that can reject me for my personal choices is messed up.

And yes, I'm a righty.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Violater1

They will help you by telling you you have a problem and need help, if you refuse help they with hold medical insurance.
Guess what happens next?


My guess is that if your in denial of your addiction and refuse to get help, you won't get any money.
A lot of people are OK with that.


Now in cases of hard drug addiction, they have a point. The devil is in the details.


What is your definition of a hard drug addiction?



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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We are asking the wrong questions.

Step 1: Stop taxing people for Medicaid.

Step 2: Eliminate the bloated, socialist failure of a program.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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Er.. laws exist for a reason. Drugs ruin lives and kill people. Not all drugs, but many. Plus, some people are more susceptible to addiction than others based on your genetics and your history.



posted on May, 25 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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#1 it isn't free, if you work you paid into the system. It is there as a safety net.

And they don't test people paying in is because the system would be crippled.

It is another control mechanism. And it will get far worse if this isn't stopped.

I do agree with helping people addicted to hard drugs.



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