Kabbala, old psychology or magick?

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posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 09:03 AM
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Im a adept in the kabbala, as i am still trying to grasps its concepts. I know it has been the basis of alot of magick work through out centuries, especialy popularized by the Order of the Golden Dawn and Aliester Crowley. Although i have recently been reading about the kabbalistic tree of life on this website and it explain the lighting effect, and the way it travels down the tree, to create rea;ity.
But what i found is that it also can explains how the human mind works in a very spirtual manner, could the kabbala just be a very old a primitive psychology book that has found out a very advanced concept of explaining the human thought process, or is it just a way to control magick?

[edit on 4-2-2005 by wang]




posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 09:35 AM
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not even one reply, come on there has to be someone with a better understanding on here of the kabbala? wheres ladyv when u need her lol



posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 12:09 PM
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I can't answer your question, but I do have one; Where can I find a free online copy of the Kabbalah in English? I have been looking for the text, but I keep finding writings about it instead.

I have recently discovered that its wisdom is something that man should learn. Much of it is supposed to tie in nicely with old Summerian writings and those that have spent many years studying it, swear that it is the key to actually connecting to your soul and finding the true path to God.



posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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As most of you know, I hate being in this forum so I'll make it quick....to answer the question...it is a combination of both



posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 12:42 PM
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i was given to understand that Kabbala was or represented the
'Tree of Life' and all Knowledge.

that the old psychology &/or Majick aspects were just textures
of the greater wisdom-philosophy-lifeguide called Kabbala

i'm also persuaded that the mystical-mystery school-of-thought,
Kabbala, is the underlying ?principle? which caused the 'Bible Code'
to become found...because there was hidden structures
in the scared word, (which are the many branches in the tree of life)

aum



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:13 AM
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That is true, the kabbala does explain concepts of the old testement, and what the old testement is really about. Still though is kabbala mysticism real?



posted on Feb, 7 2005 @ 07:36 PM
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Peace wang


The Tree of Life is the basis for all authentic religions according to my understanding.

After studying Kabbalah for some time; one can begin to see that the Torah and other Biblical texts were written by Kabbalists.




Kabbalah: The Universal Tree of Life





Kabbalah: Alternately spelled Cabala or Qabala; derived from the Hebrew QBLH, which means "to receive." (Hebrew is read from left to right)(my notes:[sic]). In the Gnostic tradition, the spelling with the "K" is preferred because the three arms of the letter represent the three primary forces.

The objective of studying the Kabbalah is to be skilled for work in the Internal Worlds...

One who does not comprehend remains confused in the Internal Worlds. Kabbalah is the basis in order to understand the language of these worlds. - Samael Aun Weor, The Initiatic Path in the Arcana of Tarot and Kabbalah


The Kabbalah is the foundation of every form of Initiatic Wisdom.

The Kabbalah, otherwise called the Tree of Life, is the organizing principle of every mystical tradition.

...the Tree of Life also in the midst of the Garden (of Eden)... - Genesis 2:9

The Tree of Life, as one of the two primary trees in the Garden of Eden, is one of the roots of all human understanding. To understand the Tree of Life is to understand the basic formula of existence.

The Tree of Life is the foundation of countless ancient cultures. It is Yggdrasil of the Nordics, the Tree of Life of the Aztecs and Mayans, and the Bodhi Tree of the Buddha.

Every great mystical tradition has a profound structure or cosmology. Every great cosmology corresponds to the Tree of Life.

The Qabalistic cosmology is the Christian Gnosis. Without it we have an incomplete system in our religion, and it is this incomplete system which has been the weakness of Christianity. - Dion Fortune, The Mystical Qabalah



The Kabbalah is also the science of numbers. The Kabbalah expresses the mathematics of all creation.

The Kabbalah is intimately related with the ancient and sacred Tarot. The twenty-two symbols of the Tarot contain the entirety of divine wisdom, and that wisdom is organized and explained in the Kabbalah.

On such a simple thing, scholars have written millions and volumes and theories that would turn anyone crazy who had the bad taste of becoming intellectualized with that entire arsenal. - Samael Aun Weor

The Kabbalah is a symbol which expresses the structure of creation. Understanding the Tree of Life, one can understand the structure of the universe around us and within us, for it maps the macrocosm and the microcosm and everything in between. However, this understanding cannot be derived solely from reading books and attending lectures.

There are two kinds of Kabbalists: intellectual Kabbalists and intuitive Kabbalists.

The intellectual Kabbalists are black magicians. The intuitive Kabbalists are white magicians. - Samael Aun Weor

The intellect is a tool that is useful when placed under the service of the Spirit. But when the intellect seeks to control the Spirit, the intellect becomes destructive. Therefore, the intuitive Kabbalist is the one who learns through the experience of the consciousness. The intuitive Kabbalist learns directly, without opinions or theories. This one seeks a radical Intellectual Culture: a comprehensive knowledge of esoterism that is qualified by direct investigation.
In order to be a complete Kabbalist, one has to study; one has to record the teachings in the memory. - Samael Aun Weor, The Initiatic Path in the Arcana of Tarot and Kabbalah


In synthesis, the intuitive Kabbalist studies the writings of the great masters, then investigates to find out for himself, and accepts what he directly experiences as true. Until then, the writings and opinions of others remain as opinions.

To approach this level of comprehension, it is necessary to know how to utilize the consciousness through Self-observation and meditation. When the mind is stable and quiet, the Voice of the Spirit can be heard; it is the voice of the Intuition, and the revealer of all true knowledge.

The esoterist, when endeavoring to formulate his philosophy for communication to others, is confronted by the fact that his knowledge of the higher forms of existence is obtained by a process other than thought; and this process only commences when thought is left behind. - Dion Fortune, The Mystical Qabalah

Therefore the student of Gnosis is encouraged to understand the Kabbalah through intellectual study, but also to go further, and to meditate in order to comprehend the Kabbalah through intuition and direct experience. The one who retains the knowledge solely in the intellect fails to grow.

Kabbalistic studies must be combined with work on oneself. One must be conscious of these studies, for it they remain only in the intellect they will be lost when one dies. Yet, if one is conscious of them, the knowedge will manifest itself from childhood. - Samael Aun Weor

Similarly, the one who rejects the study of the Kabbalah also fails to grow, for he rejects the study of the steps of the Path.

We must walk the Path of the Middle: investigation with all three brains in psychological equilibrium.

Through the intellect: by studying the words of the Initiates.

Through the heart: by meditation.

Through our actions: by transmutation.





We have a decent build on Kabbalah going in this thread if you're interested:

www.abovetopsecret.com...




PEACE



[edit on 7-2-2005 by Tamahu]





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