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Classified Docs Show Obama Illegally Spied on Americans for Years!

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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Grambler

You notice there is no mention of criminal charges or penalties right??


Just as a lot of us have been saying, the Left is the new Nazi Party.

How Hitler suspended the right to mail and telephone privacy



As people consider the implications of the mass surveillance of their emails, here's an interesting historic parallel. In 1933, Hitler demanded that Germany's president, Hindenburg, sign what became known as the Reichstag fire decree (Reichstagsbrandverordnung).

The decree is considered by historians to be one of the key steps in the establishment of a one-party Nazi state in Germany. It nullified many of the key civil liberties of German citizens, and it was used as the legal basis to imprison anyone considered to be opponents of The decree is considered by historians to be one of the key steps in the establishment of a one-party Nazi state in Germany

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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

No matter how true the story is, the liberal MSM will make sure the typical American zombie is more concerned about propaganda such as a Russia/Putin connection or making sure Ariana Grande is OK.


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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: IAMTAT

the liberal MSM will make sure the typical American zombie is more concerned about propaganda such as a Russia/Putin connection or making sure Ariana Grande is OK.



They will try...but they're digging their own graves.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:41 PM
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But remember, the left that loved Obama are screaming from the roof tops that Trump will be a dictator.

Apparently they didn't mind when their guy was violating everyone 4th amendment rights.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Grambler




Has it ever occured to you that maybe the Russian collusion story is just an attempt to discredit all of the abuses that Hillary and Obama knew people would find out about them?


It SHOULD occur to everyone...it's how these scoundrels operate.


The why did TRUMP fire Flynn the second the press found out about him and the Russian Ambassador talking sanctions..

How did Roger stone know about the leak a few days early..

Why was trumps ONLY change to the GOP party platform the we would no longer give military aid to Ukraine..


There is a laundry list of things TRUMP and his personal team have personally done that perfectly fit that narrative.. even though for half of it that narrative was already there..

Come on...

The ability to have all your political opponent's team's Personal emails dropped a month before the election. In exchange for dropping sanctions and just not interfering in Ukraine?!?!?! Aka something you couldn't find 10 Americans that give one flying flip about?!?!


That's the deal of the century in a way?!!?!

It doesn't take some super secret Muslim Plante to take that deal..

It just takes a cut throats buisness man , who honestly thinks he is the answer to the world... lol aka Donald trump..



Im a bit late to this thread but I swear this thread is about the Obama admin...not associated at all with Trump...

Or am I just crazy to call "deflection" by the left AGAIN ???



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Weren't people just complaining about being called Nazi's a few months ago? Crazy how things have flipped and now the other side is being called Nazi's by the very same ones who took offence to it before.

Our government was spying on us long before Obama, not sure how you could think otherwise. To act as if Obama (who is agreed upon to be a globalist puppet) is the culprit here is pretty shortsighted and is to ignore the people who control him and pretty much every other big name politician.

Obama didn't make the decisions, his handlers did. Or is he no longer a puppet to the elite? That implies he the one taking the orders not the one giving them.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: burntheships

Weren't people just complaining about being called Nazi's a few months ago? Crazy how things have flipped and now the other side is being called Nazi's by the very same ones who took offence to it before.

Our government was spying on us long before Obama, not sure how you could think otherwise. To act as if Obama (who is agreed upon to be a globalist puppet) is the culprit here is pretty shortsighted and is to ignore the people who control him and pretty much every other big name politician.

Obama didn't make the decisions, his handlers did. Or is he no longer a puppet to the elite? That implies he the one taking the orders not the one giving them.


K.

Then never complain about Trump. Its his handlers doing all the stuff you hate.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Interesting comments, yet your missing the mark.

The violations are the worst ever, according to the ACLU!

Is the ACLU right wing? Nope!


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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

It is his handlers making all the decisions, I never denied that it was.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Didn't the GOP just vote on/approve a bill that allows companies to sell your internet data without your knowledge? That's a form of spying isn't it?

Obama isn't the first nor the last president who will allow us to be spied on or make it easier to do. The partisan spin around here lately is ridiculous, both sides are the problem yet this place seems to believe it's only one and not the other.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: burntheships

Didn't the GOP just vote on/approve a bill that allows companies to sell your internet data without your knowledge? That's a form of spying isn't it?

Obama isn't the first nor the last president who will allow us to be spied on or make it easier to do. The partisan spin around here lately is ridiculous, both sides are the problem yet this place seems to believe it's only one and not the other.


No that was their handlers.

Why would you blame the GOP when you know it was the handlers?

Are you intentionally trying to mislead people?



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: burntheships

Didn't the GOP just vote on/approve a bill that allows companies to sell your internet data without your knowledge? That's a form of spying isn't it?


Apples to kumquats. Not comparable.



Obama isn't the first nor the last president who will allow us to be spied on or make it easier to do. The partisan spin around here lately is ridiculous, both sides are the problem yet this place seems to believe it's only one and not the other.


Obama is the first president that broke the law in such a flagrant violation.

2011, politically motivated? You bet!

The end goal here is to silence political dissent.
Just as Hilter did, just as the left is doing everyday on the "news".




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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:12 PM
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Of course it was their handlers, it seems you've missed my point entirely. The "handlers" are playing both sides, they don't have any party loyalty, partisanship is only for those whom they want to control.

DNC/Liberal media? Controlled by the elite and talking about things they want us focused on. GOP/Right Wing media? Controlled by the elite and used as controlled opposition.

Funny how what the media has been reporting on and the way they've been reporting it has caused our country to be divided isn't it? They don't care whether you believe them, all they care about is that you be invested in what they are talking about.
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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Grambler

It is his handlers making all the decisions, I never denied that it was.


Obama used the IRS to go after people too.

Another dinged apple that fell off a tree and hit every branch on the way down.




posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Grambler

Of course it was their handlers, it seems you've missed my point entirely. The "handlers" are playing both sides, they don't have any party loyalty, partisanship is only for those whom they want to control.

Liberal media? Controlled by the elite and talking about things they want us focused on. GOP? Controlled by the elite and used as controlled opposition.

Funny how what the media has been reporting on and the way they've been reporting it has caused our country to be divided isn't it? They don't care whether you believe them, all they care about is that you be invested in what they are talking about.


So given this, when proof of a past president who was hailed as a great guy spying on Americans comes up, instead of taking the time to say of course he was garbage he was ran by the same people as all of the other presidents, you lecture burntheships for calling this nazi like behavior?

Strange choice.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

How is it not comparable? They both involve personal information being collected without the knowledge of the party involved.

Spying is spying whether it's "legal" or illegal. Obama is not the first nor will he be the last president to facilitate it.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
A 'red type' announcement just went up on Drudge...stating this potential bombshell will be released very soon...possibly tonight.
If true...this could be absolutely devastating for Obama and his ex-administration.

While out of office...he should still be able to be prosecuted for this!

EDIT: Story up now...

LINK: circa.com...


This type of story melts my heart with anticipated joy.... lets go!!!



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

I was only pointing out the hypocrisy and blatant partisanship in his comment, and yes it had to do with my point which is partisanship and how it's being used by the elites to divide us. It's working pretty well so far.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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Obama and his administration are going to go down in colossal fashion... Sh*t is sorta hitting the fan for them, but I feel things are REALLY about to hit the fan... I expect fireworks... Not surprised to see events like Manchester happening right now....



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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I like this statement in that link in the OP.

"Officials like former National Security Adviser Susan Rice have argued their activities were legal under the so-called minimization rule changes Obama made"

So it was legal since the person doing it changed the laws to make it legal. Yeah, we should have seen that coming. I am starting to dislike Obama more and more each time I hear of all the crap he did.

That is what dictators do, they change laws so they can do what they want to do.
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