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Mass Western Immigration due to Low Birth Rate

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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: GokuVsSuperman0
a reply to: dfnj2015
People need to be born to replace the massive ageing population. The largest generation in human history is getting into their 60s and 70s. That is a whole lot of old people to take care of. Also when the retirement age of 65 was created, it was built around fact that old people used to die around that age. But now they're all gonna live an extra 20-30 years. So yea replacing the population makes quite the difference.


Why-the assumption we need to keep increasing the population is absurd. Machines have made a large proportion of workers obsolete and will continue to do so-look at the predictions for unemployment as a result of driverless vehicles. What we need is to distribute waelth in the Western world more evenly and encourage a falling population. Over time, jobs will become relatively more plentiful, land and houses will be cheaper, as will power, water, etc. Your solution is, if we cant pay pensions with a population of 80million, increase it to 100 million-presumably, when they retire, you'll want to increase the population to 200 million, and so on. So when will we stop importing additional people to pay for pensions-when we are shoulder to shoulder?




posted on May, 23 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: GokuVsSuperman0

Its ironic. The reason the govt charges income tax is to make sure illegal immigrants pay their taxes if they manage to find an employer who will hire illegal immigrants. Americans are willing to cut off their noses in spite of their faces. America has no excuse for its xenophobia.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 02:44 PM
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I've been in the odd position of discussing housing with a Chinese neighbour . It was quite disconcerting that he was adamant that wage levels had risen in line with house prices in the last 20-30 years .

I had to tell him twice at least, that average wages have barely doubled , but house prices have gone up six-fold in that time . He still didn't want to beleive me , and I'm the one who was born here, seen it all happen ! I didn't have the heart to tell him that both are down to immigration too .

This used to be our country , the one my grandparents fought for , and the one a lot of good men and women died for in the 2nd world war . We've been sold out , the dead uns are forgotten, lest we forget :[. Who's to blame ? Corporations : they don't beleive in national anything its profit only and that means cheap labour, and paying for European 'projects' . Whats more we the natives are now somehow expected to treat all the immigrants like guests , while they make themselves at home . So what if there's an aging population and the economy doesn't grow ? IDGAF !

Your country needs You ? They'll be rolling in their graves ! There'll be bulldozing the village war memorials for MORE new houses next !


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posted on May, 23 2017 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: GokuVsSuperman0
a reply to: Edumakated
Hmm so basically, white people don't want to be poor and have kids because that's hard lol. And yet poor illegal immigrant families have lots of kids and still manage to live despite the hardships. That just makes westerners sound like wusses lol


It's well known in the advertising and marketing demographics, that low-income areas tend to be high-density, high-crime, have bad schools with street gangs, have drug dealers, pimps and hookers hanging round the streets, while the middle class areas tend to be more leafy green, have good schools and have safe neighborhoods:

www.businessballs.com...

So white people put off having children until they have a salary high enough to live in a safe neighborhood. The first thing they do when choosing a house is to look at the primary schools when the children are going home. If things look a bit grim, they'll look elsewhere.

I had this problem when living in Edinburgh. The company I worked for had signed a deal with the council to get reduced business land rates if they "encouraged" their workers to remain in the socially deprived area that the council was wanting to regenerate. The only way to achieve this was to hold down salaries. This led to an extremely tense situation where engineers were desperate to get pay rises in order to move to the upmarket areas and start families, while management was determined to keep salaries down to keep the council happy. The end result was that engineers would emigrate down south to England or to the USA, then the Scottish Executive instructed the company not to promote anyone any further, which then led to everyone leaving and the company imploding.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: GokuVsSuperman0

Hey, don't blame me; we have five!! Three grandkids, so far, too. It's true, though, that some don't have enough kids. Too many people have allowed themselves to be convinced that large families are a bad thing.



posted on May, 23 2017 @ 08:01 PM
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originally posted by: GokuVsSuperman0
a reply to: rickymouse
A lot of illegal immigrants do pay taxes. Some own businesses and offer health care. Google it


If so, then they are using fake ID to do so, and are guilty of identity theft.



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