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Seth Rich Would Be Bombshell Fizzles - Wheeler Walks Back False Claims

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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 02:11 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

I predict soon they're going to say that Seth's parents are paid actors or something because they're not going along with the conspiracy theories...

It's almost like I have Ms. Cleo here with me now, child.




posted on May, 21 2017 @ 02:16 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Demonstrably incorrect.

The Russian Hacking narrative has been the major centre piece of the anti-trump agenda since he won the election.

The only person really able to discredit that theory would be the leaker. They can't risk having their biggest smear campaign be debunked overnight by the leaker further exposes them.

The fact that they DO push this BLATANT LIE so arrogantly is a real smoking gun regarding his absence.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 02:21 AM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

Don't get all sanctimonious with me like I haven't read hundreds or thousands of your posts. The hypocrisy of you lot is astounding.

You're flat wrong. Wheeler did backtrack on his story. Hell, even Fox 5 said that he walked it back. If you don't want to be "belitted" then maybe you should put forth a little more effort to not spread disinfo.

You're also wrong about "CNN refuses to discuss the story" which I can only assume is a reference to the thread on ATS? Just because you're a sucker, CNN has to report nonsense? Odd. But as I said, you're wrong. In fact, CNN published this:


But Tuesday afternoon, Wheeler told CNN he had no evidence to suggest Rich had contacted Wikileaks before his death.

Wheeler instead said he only learned about the possible existence of such evidence through the reporter he spoke to for the FoxNews.com story. He explained that the comments he made to WTTG-TV were intended to simply preview Fox News' Tuesday story. The WTTG-TV news director did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

"I only got that [information] from the reporter at Fox News," Wheeler told CNN.

Asked about a quote attributed to him in the Fox News story in which he said his "investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and Wikileaks," Wheeler said he was referring to information that had already been reported in the media.

A Fox News spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment by the time of publication.


Do you see that? A Fox News contributor was given alt-facts by a Fox News reporter so that he could go on a local Fox affiliate and lie about it so that Fox News could then run the story and Breitbart, WND, etc could all have something to rile you lot up with.

Am I supposed to coddle you as you repeat nonsense with conviction and try to pass it off as fact?

Also, what treason? No amount of DNC being in the bag for Hillary in the primaries is "treason." Please don't just throw around words for dramatic purposes if you don't want to be called out for it. What else? Can you "confirm" that those were Seth Rich's accounts or are you just assuming that be true as well?

Did you read through the archives yourself?

Finally, if on Tuesday, KDC doesn't produce, are you going to tell everyone you've told about his claims that they turned out to be false?



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 02:22 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Oh so you DO know about the KimDotCom tweets?

Well, that's interesting. It took you 5 pages before you reluctantly included this in your thread?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Anyway. Your pathetic attempt at smearing Kim is noted.

Everyone. Please be aware of this tweet:

" @KimDotcom 13h13 hours ago
I'm meeting my legal team on Monday. I will issue a statement about #SethRich on Tuesday. Please be patient. This needs to be done properly."


Unfollow this trash thread and follow KimDotCom on twitter.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 02:42 AM
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a reply to: pirhanna

What compelling case? I've been following along the whole time and I've completely missed it. One of the most interesting of the bombshell-turned-duds was the Craig Murray account. A lot of people who keep making these outlandish Seth Rich claims jumped all over it as proof that the source was a leak and therefore, Seth Rich.

What they neglected to see was that Craig Murray also claimed that he'd met the leaker in D.C. at the Sam Adams Award ceremony. That ceremony was held on September 25th, 2016 — months after Seth Rich's murder.

Of course Assange wouldn't come right out and say that it was bs, only that Craig Murray was a friend of his but not authorized to speak for him or WL. However, the WL Twitter account tweeted out Craig Murray's blog post. At the same time, Assange allows people to think that his $20k reward offer indicates that Seth Rich was the source.

Do you see the problem there?

Here's the links:

WL tweeting link to Craig Murray's blog where he makes the claim

Craig Murray in that blog post
excerpting his own quote from The Guardian:


I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider.


Craig Murray to Sputnik:


The source of these emails and leaks has nothing to do with Russia at all. I discovered what the source was when I attended the Sam Adam's whistleblower award in Washington. The source of these emails comes from within official circles in Washington DC. You should look to Washington not to Moscow.


I've just shown you that WL is promoting contradictory narratives. How do you feel about that?



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 03:01 AM
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Here, watch this.

Stefan explains it all out about what is known so far.



Less than 24 hours after Private Investigator Rod Wheeler claimed that “investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” the story has changed. Wheeler is now claiming that he had no additional evidence to suggest that Seth Rich contacted WikiLeaks prior to his murder.


8:38 long.







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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian


I see that the DNC hasn't put up any reward money.

Over 100 grand is on the line. No takers for that kind of money?




posted on May, 21 2017 @ 03:38 AM
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With such potential big fish to fry, the FBI isn't going to say anything.

I also wonder why the CEO of Reddit is deleting Seth Rich's post history a few days after the story broke.

By the way, the spokesman for the family is a professional crisis PR consultant with the Pastorum Group, who specializes in “crisis communications” for the Democratic Party.

Nice try, CNN.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 03:51 AM
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a reply to: 0racle

Seems kinda thin but I guess we'll find out.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 04:36 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: pirhanna

What compelling case? I've been following along the whole time and I've completely missed it. One of the most interesting of the bombshell-turned-duds was the Craig Murray account. A lot of people who keep making these outlandish Seth Rich claims jumped all over it as proof that the source was a leak and therefore, Seth Rich.

What they neglected to see was that Craig Murray also claimed that he'd met the leaker in D.C. at the Sam Adams Award ceremony. That ceremony was held on September 25th, 2016 — months after Seth Rich's murder.

Of course Assange wouldn't come right out and say that it was bs, only that Craig Murray was a friend of his but not authorized to speak for him or WL. However, the WL Twitter account tweeted out Craig Murray's blog post. At the same time, Assange allows people to think that his $20k reward offer indicates that Seth Rich was the source.

Do you see the problem there?

Here's the links:

WL tweeting link to Craig Murray's blog where he makes the claim

Craig Murray in that blog post
excerpting his own quote from The Guardian:


I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider.


Craig Murray to Sputnik:


The source of these emails and leaks has nothing to do with Russia at all. I discovered what the source was when I attended the Sam Adam's whistleblower award in Washington. The source of these emails comes from within official circles in Washington DC. You should look to Washington not to Moscow.


I've just shown you that WL is promoting contradictory narratives. How do you feel about that?


All through this thread you have belittled posters for misinterpretation of facts,twisting facts, and making things fit their own agenda, then you do the same thing so how are you different? You have two separate posts and combined them to read "I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider." and "I discovered what the source was when I attended the Sam Adam's whistleblower award in Washington." Where does it say he met the whistle blower at the awards? If you are going to twist things to fit your agenda at least have the intelligence not to provide proof that you did so.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 07:20 AM
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originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: theantediluvian

This thread won't reach even 10 flags.



You nailed that one!



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 07:23 AM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
I want to say this again,

- Seth Rich was a Sanders supporter, a genuine Democrat who loved his country.
- He was outraged that the DNC cheated Sanders (when he won)
- He didnt want this act of treason to go unnoticed so he leaked the emails.
- He was then mysteriously murdered (in a robbery) where nothing was stolen.
- Assange offers a reward (has Assange ever offered a reward for a Dems misfortune?)
- The Democrats want the case to disappear quickly
- A man comes forward claiming Seth Rich was the leaker
- Kim Dot Com says he was involved and will prove it via his lawyers
- Seth Richs reddit accounts are found and mysteriously being edited
- CNN Refuses to discuss the story
- Fox NEWS is running the story and is being ridiculed by CNN For doing it

any yet.. you all want this case to just ''go away'' because of the hurt it will cause the families? They're sons dead, nothing will bring it back and I bet they want the truth more than we do.

Wheeler also did not backtrack on his story, he simply said it was not the FBI who gave him the info, which means the info is still there.

... to the OP - see that? I didnt need to belittle anyone or name call or be a grade A prick to get my point across.



It truly has been fascinating observing the wild mental gymnastics that Clinton supporters are going through. Most of the democrats, hell even independents that I know wanted Bernie and they were quite vocal about that.

Then the DNC cheated him out of it, at one point it was a "conspiracy" then it was proven by the leaks. All these people that are lying to themselves in order to continue ignoring this important point are nothing but cowards, who voted along party lines as opposed to standing up and demanding accountability.

If they would have done so, we would have Sanders as president, Trump's presidency is owed 100% to those that put their tail between their legs and voted for a career criminal. #Never Hillary was a real movement of independents who would have voted for Bernie in a heartbeat, who went on to either not vote or went with Trump.

Your breakdown of events is accurate and worth repeating, two more points worth noting are...

-The murder of Shawn Lucas, exposing the DNC's corruption resulted in quite a few victims and is quite obvious!

A verified email from the scum bag John Podesta and I quote "I'm definitely
for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real
basis for it."

Wonder when CNN will cover that!?
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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

You were right about the wheeler guy back when the story originally broke. I still think the Seth Rich murder is funny smelling. I hope that it will be solved but the lack of leads in the case and easy connections to the DNC / Hillary make for an easily believed conspiracy. It's definitely plausible. It's also plausible that it was a botched robbery. I fear we may never know the truth and it will fuel conspiracies for years to come. 1/3 of murders in the United States go unsolved.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Now imagine they took the CNN approach of 'unnamed source' ... there is no follow up. Fake news.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: The3murph

Ha ha. Ok.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: DonInHtown

Oh please hyperbole much.
There's not a scintilla of truth in what you wrote.
But A+ for getting the narrative correct. That's important.
Does your club have a code word and secret handshake too.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: The3murph

How do you know what a normal answer from that member is if you just joined today?
Hmmm?



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

I thought the same exact thing. Isn't that weird he sounds like he has experience with you and he just joined minutes ago.
Peculiar no?



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

No but we all know the right gets all triggered by each and every meticulously researched thread that Antediluvian posts so he's doing something right.

Some members only converse in memes and others with a plethora of emojis . I guess that's what you consider quality content.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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Some members only converse in memes and others with a plethora of emojis . I guess that's what you consider quality content.


Some members post in rapid succession without bringing anything to the discussion and ignoring all queries of proof of claims.
Some also spend more time reporting posters than making threads, interesting, no?
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