Jews Are Everywhere !

finally some truth comes out. well spoken twitchy.

however i do suspect you have now been labeled as a nazi, by net chicken, and his band of feminist followers.

Damn right weener...
Its the squeal of a redneck, oppressed by a boogie man who doesn't exist. Someone and something to hate with no justification. With enough knowledge of history to be inocculated against the truth learned at the feet of another redneck.

People don't hate something without a reason, they have plenty of cultural baggage to give them reason, the same baggage that told them to hate blacks, to despise chinese, and to debase women.

The type of baggage, that says "only white folks are the best," because they have nothing else to be proud of except their color. If they say anti black, or anti women things now however, they will get jumped on. So they are left with the old stereotype of the jew as their oppressor.

Its sad, so much for education in the 21st century, it hasn't reached the boondocks, but intellectual poverty is a state of mind.

Truely its not worth going through the post to state the fallacies, as the people indulging in this thread are not motivated by a desire for truth, but to express their stereotypes, their cultural monsters, akin to the British of last century who really thought that the French were monkeys. We can laugh at their ignorance now, but we are still seeing such primitive ideas expressed in this generation.

Originally posted by Ashlar

however i do suspect you have now been labeled as a nazi, by net chicken, and his band of feminist followers.

No, I'm not a Nazi, I'm an American, and if I had to sum up my political stance, I'm a pissed off, fairly educated, radical isolationist American who has intently studied US Foriegn Policy, and freemasonry/zionism for well over a decade. Really, the word Nazi has nothing to do with it, and I really hate how quickly the labels start flying around when it comes to speaking up against the history and policies of the Israeli nation. Any time someone speaks up in opposition to them, they are quickly labeled antisemite, or nazis, and so their point is often discredited with little more than name calling, rhetoric, and the waving of holocaust pictures. Even Ariel Sharon has been labeled an antisemite (strange but true). The simple truth here is that no nation is above reprieve when it comes to violence and bloodshed, but time and time again I see the name of Israel raised on high while the Pallestinian and Arab causes are demonized. Look into who owns the major outlets of the American Media and the Federal Reserve System, then you will see why, time after time, ignorance of the Israeli nation's atrocitites abound in American culture. Israel is far from Sanctity, and it doesn't take a nazi to realize that jews have been killing, burning, poisoning and hating LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE for thousands of years.

Just to give you an example of the tolerance and hypocrisy of it, Iraq was bombed and invaded twice, then occupied and arguably taken by the US for ALLEGED violations of UN Charters and resolutions, between years of crippling economic sanctions, first for their supposed ties to Alqeda, then because of their WMD's, then finally because they had a bad guy president who killed people. Iran and Syria will suffer the reprocussions of the same generalizations of terrorism and evil, yet Israel is literally the current record holder for violations of UN resolutions, and to this day they refuse to acknowlege, or even discuss their illegal nuclear arsenal, and not only have they been busted setting up a fake alqeda cell in the west bank, mosaad agents being deported from the US and other nations by the thousands, but they have clearly engaged in terrorism. We won't bomb or invade them however, or even so much as censure them and I'm sick of hearing of how righteous they are, as they occupy lands far beyond what was agreed and given to them by the rest of the world and kill civilians over it. I have studied talmud, I know the ties between Freemasonry and Judaism, and I know why they don't like us talking about it. They can take their temple and sit on it, but I'll not sit idly while people who don't know jack about it send their sons and daughters to die in their wars. People deserve to know the truth about the causes they support, and the reasons they are supporting them. Israel is a terrorist nation, and despite what you might have heard on Rush Limbaugh, the US is sponsor of international and even domestic terrorism, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, hell Ireland, you name it, blood flows the world round. Let's stop the hypocrisy, beacause if you really want to end terrorism, it's as simple a policy as "Mind Your Own Business" and "Leave People Alone".

Edit:
Here's why you won't hear a peep out of the American Media about Israel...

Originally posted by twitchy
The federal reserve system violates the US constitution, yes, Echtelion is correct. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 pushed through the legislature by Woodrow Wilson was nothing short of treason and a clear violation of the US constitution. Article 1, section 8 of the US Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to coin money and regulate it's value, but the federal reserve act gave this power to a private corporation, the shares of which are not traded publicly, nor is it regulated or mandated by congress. They print money with no backing whatsoever, at no interest, then loans it to the treasury, with interest. They also retain the rights to purchase national debt (which is also illegal) and charge interest for it. The ones chiefly responsible for this are...

www.worldnewsstand.net...
Rothschild Bank of London (Jewish)
Warburg Bank of Hamburg (Jewish)
Rothschild Bank of Berlin (Jewish)
Lehman Brothers of New York (Jewish)
Lazard Brothers of Paris (Jewish)
Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York (Jewish)
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy (Jewish)
Goldman, Sachs of New York (Jewish)
Warburg Bank of Amsterdam (Jewish)
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Rockefellers Interesting History...)

Originally posted by twitchy
Paramount, Disney, ICM and CAA New York, Times, Wall Street Journal Washington Post, Boston Globe, Washington Post Barron's, Dow Jones Village Voice Time, U.S. News & World Report Atlantic Monthly, NY Daily News, AOL-Time Warner, CNN News Group (before you say no that's Ted Turner, look up 'Walter Isaacson'), Time Warner's publishing division, Sports Illustrated, People, Fortune, Walt Disney Company, Touchstone, Buena Vista, Hollywood Pictures, Caravan Pictures, Miramax Films, Capital Cities/ABC, Inc., ESPN, Lifetime Television, A & E Television Networks, ABC Radio Network, Viacom, Inc., Paramount Pictures, CBS's Country Music Television Nashville Network Simon & Schuster, Scribner, The
Free Press, Pocket Books. Showtime, MTV, Nickelodeon, Fox Television Network, 20th Century Fox Films, and Fox 2000, New York Post and TV Guide are all owned or controlled by one religous organization.

This is not to mention all the subsidary companies in print and local media, newsgroups, etc. that are either subsidized or controlled by the above listed companies. The recent consolidation of these major media companies has only tightened their grip, and really this is only to name a a few...

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Originally posted by Netchicken
redneck...redneck.... hate blacks, to despise chinese, and to debase women..."only white folks are the best," because they have nothing else to be proud of...boondocks...

Oh whew, thanks for clearing us up on that. For a moment I thought you were going to post a hypocritical bunch of rubbish that could be summed up in one quote...

Originally posted by Netchicken
Truely its not worth going through the post to state the fallacies..

Would you care to induldge us with what must certainly be a vast and awe inspiring understanding of the peace loving Jewish Culture, or will your broad generalizaions and hypocrisy in calling folks ignorant rednecks suffice as a rebuttal?

There is no "jews are good", "jews are bad".

That kind of broad generalisation and collective mentality got them in trouble in the first place.
Jews are people, just like anyone else and messed up just like anyone else. They are individuals capable of both good and evil and should be treated as such.

To discuss things like are jews good or bad is like discussing are americans good or bad, or are germans good or bad. For every good thing you say I can give you an example of someone gone wrong in that group of people. Why? Because we are individuals sharing mainly the same DNA, hence we are all capable of being both good and evil.

I have sympathy for victims of holocaust but I also think that Ariel Sharon is a dangerous psychopath and megalomaniac... and a killer too. Very dangerous man.

Because of all that has happened in history, Jews learned to take care of eachother and help eachother because none else wanted to. That is why a lot of them are successful.
That is no excuse though to do whatever they want and kill whomever they want cause they feel like it and get away with it.
If you assume that no Jew is capable of vicious murder, terror, opressing others, then you are using the same generalisation that has been the source of so much evil in the past AND in present.

For a short while it seemed like we might free ourselves from this collective mindset, but then neoconservativism took over and we are
groups again: patriots, non-patriots, muslims, christians, jews. In all those groups, one bad apple is enough to condemn millions to being evil because of it. Collective mindset implies collective guilt.

So, free your mind, for the sake of all humanity.

one reason people historicly hated jews is that its always fun to pick on the little guy. in Britain a few hundred years ago it was illegal for none christians to work in any sort of a trade( by none christians they ment catholics too) so a lot of jews ended up being porn brokers and money lenders,the fore runner of banking and commerce. one day it was decided that the people of YORK didnt want to repay there loans so they had a little spot of genocide. who says history doesnt repeat its self. DOWN WITH FASCISTS OF ALL NATIONS

Again, the reason Jews are so successful with money is because they were made that way! If every American was told the only job they could have cooking, after a few centuries, guess who the best cooks would be? Americans! If you are oppressed and only allowed very few, specific jobs, then you become good at that job. Now if say it was a family thing, might run out sooner or later, but when you have entire civillization being told they can only work this job, they become good at that job cause its the only one any of them can hold.

Also, explains why the banks are owned/ran by Jews, in the past it was the one of the few jobs they could get, so saying since banks are owned by Jews that all Jews are money grabbing greedy people is wrong. They didn't invade the banking industry and slaughter all that got in the way, they were the bankers, no Jews, no Bankers. Until a couple hundred years ago when the Jews were ALLOWED by the christians to get more jobs then banking and acting. But again, if all you can do is bank, or act, guess what you become good at after a few centuries of doing it? They didn't have a choice, the good wholesome christians would either kill them or made them bankers/actors.

I like that Ashlar, and NCs feminist following, how dare those women want equal rights, paid the same for doing the same job, not being baby machines.(NC that was sarcasm)

There is a site that attempts to answer that question that you've asked:

whythejews

Oh the Protestants hate the Catholics,
and the Catholics hate the Protestants,
and the Hindus hate the Moslems
and everybody hates the Jews.

In this song Lehrer expresses a truism, that hatred for the Jew is uniquely commonplace. The question is: Why?

That site talks about some of the reasons given earlier in this thread and tries to debunk them but I don't agree with his conclusion as to why they are hated.

www.aish.com...

Any individual’s claim to superiority bothers people only to the extent that they believe it is true. If someone who is indisputably ugly saunters up to a nice-looking fellow at a party and says, "I’m better-looking than you," what would be the other’s response? More than likely he would simply shrug his shoulders and ignore him, because the comment would not bother him in the least.

If, on the other hand, the best-looking guy in the room comes up to the same fellow and makes the identical comment, that will raise his dander. The reason is that one doesn’t resent people who say they are superior; one resents people who are superior.

That is why the Christians’ hatred of the Jews was particularly intense. They, more than those of other religions, were threatened by the Jewish message. Jews said that Jesus was not God. This statement assumes a "wrongness" about Christianity. The Church Fathers understood that if the Jews are right, and they remain Jews, this implies that Christianity is bankrupt.

Therein lies Judaism’s colossal threat to Christianity. Other groups’ denial of Jesus is a great disappointment to Christians, but the Jews’ denial is intolerable. Jesus came to the Jews! The very group that produced him, those people who had the most knowledge and authority on such matters, those who represented the last word on religion – were the first to reject Jesus.

The Jewish threat to Christianity has nothing to do with their having "killed" Jesus. The source of Christian fear runs much deeper: Jewish existence invalidates the essential tenet of Christian theology.

Well, ask a christian/tell them that Jesus was a Jew and get ready to block a punch or two.(both physical and metaphorically) Jesus was a good wholesome christian, even though christianity wasn't created till a few years after he died. He didn't want/try to make a new religon, he tried to bring the Jews back on to the path they had wandered from.

Im a christian.
I dont know a christian who would not tell you that Jesus Christ was a jew.
The Apostles were jews
The first few thousand converts were jews

Christianity is the jewish religion. Christ came for the jews. Just like was prophecied, they rejected him. So the gospel was sent abroad.
Again, christianity is the jewish religion that very few jews have regarded.

First, it's the Jewish Leaders who killed Jesus...becuase he wans't the type of Messiah they wanted to follow.
Second, much of Christinaity IS found in other documents, if you know what yuo are looking for.
Third, Christ was a Jew. No point in hating Jews, Christians, because your creator became one of them.
Fourth, though Pilate washed his hands of the mess, it did not absolve him from sending Christ to his death. Romans nailed him to a cross.


Well, it's not just one thing that makes the Jews hated. There's the matter of each religion competing for people...the my b**** ae bigger than yours syndrome. There's the supremacy according to genetics movements (Hitler, Stalin, Wagner, whatever). There's cultural behavioral diffrences. The fact that they are nomads for so long. ...and so many other things that I can't think about right now, for some reason.

If you think in terms of spiritual warfare, and read my first post in this thread, its all pretty clear.

The world hates them because they are Gods chosen people, and satan is the prince of this world. Satan knows he is going down, and wants to take as much of Gods creation with him as he can.
Thats as basic as I can say it.

Gods chosen people? How do we know this? Because their book said they were? Fine, my book that I wrote says I am the chosen one. How can I prove it? Because my book says so. Bite me.

Anyways, besides satan, any non-religous reasons? Any real reasons? or are they all superficial?

Originally posted by James the Lesser
Gods chosen people? How do we know this? Because their book said they were? Fine, my book that I wrote says I am the chosen one. How can I prove it? Because my book says so. Bite me.

You are angry and disallusioned and bitter. I relate to you!

But seriously, Jews are everywhere? I never realized it! I just saw humans pissing me off. Who knew?

We get this "Chosen people" a bit mixed up, lol....

You ever asked yourself what they were chosen for? Why do they have this special favor, ACCORDING to them? (It's not like the Jews were the only people who beleived in a single God. If you read about Moses' life, you get to see that his father-in-law, who NEVER was a Jew, was God's high priest (this is before Levites were established as the Priestly tribe)... Abraham's family (cousins that were part of no promise recorded) believed in one God, and they were from the Babylonian area (Tigris/Euphrates, what is now Iraq).

They were special because they were the host nation for the one who was to save all. you want Christ to come, you gotta let the Israelites live to see that fulfilment. Remember, being a Jew, while it does have some bloodline to it, doe't mean that ALL Jews are born Jews. It's called prostelyzation. And a noteable few of Christ's own ancestors were called by their previous origin.... Ruth the Moabitess, the whore from Jerico, a few others...

Anyway, a group that can take much of their enemies' territory in a 6 day war, I'd think of them as rather special... Irrelevant of who is and who isn't aiding them, they still manage to hold their own as a nation.

JLC, they didn't hold their own, they held their own and everyone elses. They kicked ass against nations, more then one. Little ol Israel against a bunch of arab nations, must have some divine intervention to help them kick ass of several nations. Or it could have been karma, they lose 6million to Hitler, so Karma comes around and lets them kick ass after they had their asses kicked.

Ok, so they were chosen to have the savoir born, but was the savoir born? Christians say so, but wouldn't the Jews know best?

Well, yes and no....
Lol, did I ever show my beleif as a Christan... I should have put the Messiah there. Several Jewish texts cover how the Messiah was comming as a savior to all, not just the Jews...and all Christinaity does is state that they knwo it's fufilled.

Several thousands of Jews did think he was the one. Up until Acts 10, all the converts to Christianity were Jews....whether they were Grecian/hellenistic (those Jews brought up outisde of Palestine, often not following all of the Mosiac law), samaritans (bastardized halfbreeds dispised by the genral poulation), prostelytes (those who became Jews through the rituals open for strangers to become a Jew). The day of pentecost is just one sermon in which 3000 Jews converted. There's also a group of Jews that LIVE in Israel NOW that have decided that they had missed the Messiah, based upon their study of scriptue, and then decided that the only one who fit the fulfilment of the prophecy was Jesus. Remember, the reason so many Messiahs were popping up during the time of Christ was because the Messiah was supposed to come during the Roman Empire. (See the book of Daniel...OT is Jewish scriptures) The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus....he point blank states that the Jews missed the messiah. First link that got to the point and has the original text (As a reminder to people, it is very easy to beleive that someone is God and to not worship him. The lack of strong committment in either direction by a true historian is not too suprising.)

Originally posted by ivanglam
whats wrong with rock and roll.... if anything it promotes peace and love... the beatles man!!! "closer to the heart" -

Dont think rock n roll is any great driving force for world peace in fairness.

Taking the Beatles, and more specifically John Lennon, not long after he had his love in with Yoko he was dontaing money to the provisional IRA to help butcher innocent people in Northern Ireland.

"Happiness is a warm gun"- methinks not

Originally posted by Netchicken
Damn right weener...
Its the squeal of a redneck, oppressed by a boogie man who doesn't exist. Someone and something to hate with no justification. With enough knowledge of history to be inocculated against the truth learned at the feet of another redneck.

People don't hate something without a reason, they have plenty of cultural baggage to give them reason, the same baggage that told them to hate blacks, to despise chinese, and to debase women.

The type of baggage, that says "only white folks are the best," because they have nothing else to be proud of except their color. If they say anti black, or anti women things now however, they will get jumped on. So they are left with the old stereotype of the jew as their oppressor.

Its sad, so much for education in the 21st century, it hasn't reached the boondocks, but intellectual poverty is a state of mind.

Truely its not worth going through the post to state the fallacies, as the people indulging in this thread are not motivated by a desire for truth, but to express their stereotypes, their cultural monsters, akin to the British of last century who really thought that the French were monkeys. We can laugh at their ignorance now, but we are still seeing such primitive ideas expressed in this generation.

Originally posted by Ashlar

however i do suspect you have now been labeled as a nazi, by net chicken, and his band of feminist followers.

You do realise that there is anti white racism dont ya?- just checking, because reading between the lines of your post, you don't appear to, to this "cracker" / "redneck"

*jeesh the hypocrisy*

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Isn't that a guinea pig, and not a rabbit or bunny?

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