posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 03:08 PM
Since any conversation about the Jews as a people starts with the presumption of their religion (jewish, from Judea) and originating location, I feel
obligated to present the point of view from the bible.
Like was mentioned above, since the creation of the Israelites as a tribe of people, they have been under constant threat of extinction. In fact,
according to their history, they became a full blown tribe while in captivity in Egypt.
The bible gives a reason for this hatred.
Gods plan to save as many as would have salvation was done through them.
The adversary, satan, wants to prevent that at all costs. The best way to do that, even today, is to wipe out the jews.
To that end, as presented in Daniel, and Revelation, Israel has been attacked and nearly wiped off the face of the earth as a nation since their
First in Egypt. The infant tribe were slaves there.
Then by Assyria, who were among the most ruthless of conquerers.
Then by Babylon, who carried away the jews back to Babylonia
Then by Persia. The persians showed signs of weakness and let the jews return
So Alexander and the Greeks came and with Alexanders death, things got extremely bloody in Israel. When that govt decayed,
Then the Romans came.
This is when the strategy changed for a bit..
With the resurection of Jesus, satan saw the beginning of the end. He could no longer hope to just occupy Israel. It had to go permenantly.
The jews were scattered throughout the known world.
Rome is the 6th head in Revelation and the Legs in daniels dream.
With the jews scattered, two things needed to be done now. The land needed to be held fast. Christianity needed to be stopped via false religion (the
same form from babel and babylon which was created by Nimrod), or simply wiped out.
The Holy ROman Empire was one of the things to take care of the first and second
Islam all but wiped out christianity in north africa, AND made a muslim claim for Jerusalem.
All the while, keep in mind that God told the jews he would scatter them as punishment....but with a promise that he would return them to their
The Ottoman Empire owned Israel for hundreds of years leading up to WW1.
Around 1900 Zionism was born by people living in the US and UK.
Satan is not stupid. He knows the bible as well as anyone and what it says about the last days. The jews had to be prevented from going home.
No Israel, and end time prophecy fails. No Jews, and Gods promise to Abraham is a lie.
At the end of WW1 the UK owned Israel. No longer was there muslim ownership of the land. Judiasm could be practiced unimpeded. Jews started returning
to Israel in larger numbers, but it was still a trickle , all things being relative.
Coincidently, during that same war, as satan lost control of Israel, the millions of jews in Russia became captive to communism.
Satan didnt have Israel, but he still had the jews.
Anti-semitism took off in Europe at unprecidented rates.
Nazi's take control of Germany, and then Europe, and then North Africa.
The goal was to link up with the Japanese in the area of Iran or India.
By coincidence, they would own Israel. (hmmm).
The Nazi's embarked on a systematic campaign to exterminate the jews.
No jews, no Israel nation.
The jews who were captive in Russia, were now protected by the very communism that was their jailer. Communism and Facism hated each other as much as
they both hated the jews.
Hitler lost, but his action caused something else to happen.
Jews around the world decided that it would be better to go back to the land of their fathers. Israel.
In 1948 Israel was born. The very day of its rebirth, the arab nations around them tried to exterminate them. This happened again in 1956, 1967,
In 1967 Israel recaptured Jerusalem. This is also critical to bible prophecy because the temple must be rebuilt.
Jesus said that the generation that see's Israel reborn would not pass until all the signs of the coming rapture come to pass.
Here you have your choice of 40, 100, or 120 years.
Most bets are currently on 40, which would mean October of 2007 at the latest.
There are a few more things that need to happen.
1. A 10 nation confederacy needs to form. 3 of those 10 will join together by some means and will be ruled by the AC.
2. Turkey, the muslim nations of the former USSR, Iran, Libya, Sudan and possibly Russia will sneek attack Israel. (hold that thought, a recent
article on this sight has shed light on this).
3. That army will be wiped out except for 1/6th.
About Russia. The 'stan' nations of the former USSR are all of turkish origin. Mongolia is also part of that heritage. Russia was settled by the
Vikings, who founded Moscow in the 800's AD. After that, the Mongols owned Russia for hundreds of years. There is a russian saying, "scratch a
russian, see tarter blood". It is by that means that you can include Russia in this war. Another is Gog. Gog is the Cheif Prince of magog. Certainly
the turkish people of the 'stan nations are decended from Magog...and until the break up of the USSR, Russia was certainly chief of them all.
There is one more thing, and I think it answers a very important question.
Q.) Why is the USA not mentioned in bible prophecy when they are most certainly a world power that would have a say in such a war?
A.?) Damascus is prophecied to be wiped out in the manner of sodom. Nuked? This prophecy about gog goes on to say that the cleanup will last seven
months. When a body part is found, people will leave a marker for the burial teams to come get it. This is not the only nuke in this war.
Ezekiel 39:6 Fire will come down on Magog, and on a people living carelessly in safety on a distant coastland.
First we have a local nuke exchange in the mideast...then a broader one on Magog and the distant coastland.
Is that the USA and Russia?
Lets carry this further. There is prophecy to fulfill.
Would the Muslims follow a christian or jewish Jesus?
This is where it gets interesting.
MODERATOR. There is an aricle here that talks about the motive behind bin laden to reestablish the Caliph(sp?). It is important in muslim prophecy and
the Gog-Magog prophecy. If you know it, could you link it here please?
There are two major flavors of Islam. Sunni and Shia.
Muslims are waiting on their own 'messiah' like person. The Mahdi.
Their prophecy says that the Mahdi will goto Saudi Arabia, but he will be opposed by the King of the North. An army will come down from the north to
destroy the Mahdi and his prophet Jesus, but will be swallowed up by the desert.
This explains two things.
First, Saudi Arabia and the 'merchants of tarshish' (europe?) will object to this invasion asking if they have come to take plunder, great riches.
If Saudi Arabia is thought to be the target, then this objection makes sense.
This is how an army of that size can get close to Israel, but still surprise them when they attack (because they will supposedly be on the way to
Mecca to depose the Mahdi), and
It explains how a 10 nation confederacy in Europe can rise up and support the AC (possibly a european born muslim who is the Mahdi) and gain the
attention of the world.
Remember, in Ezekiel 39:6...if the USA and Russia take each other out, and the combined muslim army is destroyed down to 1/6th....who will oppose the
Muslim prophecy also says that the Mahdi will wipe out christianity and make everyone follow HIM.
The bible says the 10 horns will hate the apostate church (Harlot) and wipe her out.
Too much coincidence there for me.
Yes, there will be a China and India still left, but then, Revelation tells about a 200 million man army in the tribulation.
So why do the jews receive so much hate? Because satan wants them gone.
EDIT: Im sorry, one more thing. Did you notice that Iraq (Babylon, Chaldea) is not included in that war?
Did you notice that Iran is? Based on that, if anyone tells me the US is going to Iran next, I say they are wrong.
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