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Pakistan To Receive Swedish ERIEYE AEW&C System And SAAB Aircrafts

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posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 01:10 AM
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July 14, 2004: Pakistan has taken a big leap to strengthen its fast depleting air power by securing a nod from Sweden to sell Islamabad an Airborne Early Warning and Control System (AEW&CS), informed sources said. This state-of-the-art system will also augment Pakistan Navy’s existing potential for maritime and tactical surveillance, the sources added. Close to final approval is Pakistan’s decision to acquire 14 SAAB 2000 aircraft from Sweden. Seven of these aircraft will be dedicated for the PAF’s AEW&CS while the remaining seven will be acquired by the PIA to replace its fleet of Fokker aircraft, which have already been grounded, the sources said.

Several Fokker-related incidents, including the last year’s crash that killed the then chief of air staff, air marshal Mushaf Ali Mir, and 17 other PAF officials, the PIA had decided last year to sell its fleet of 11 aircraft and replace them with compatible ones. The seven SAAB 2000 that will replace the ageing Fokkers on the PIA’s heavily subsidized socio-economic routes will help the airline save about Rs 200 million on the subsidized routes that cost the PIA about Rs 400 million every year. Because of the composite nature of the deal, the PIA would pay only $45 million for the seven SAAB aircraft as against the $98 million for the French ATR and $91 million for the American Dash-8 that will cost about $98 million. For its part the Swedish government has provided a guarantee for the smooth supply of SAAB spare parts as long as the aircraft is flown anywhere in the world, the PIA sources confirmed. Six hundred of such planes are being flown all over the world.

The SAAB aircraft for the PAF will be equipped with ERIEYE AEW&C system which can manage airborne early warning; intercept communication; airspace management; surveillance and control borders; detect illegal shipment of weapons and drugs; and coordinate search and rescue operations. It will be two years before the PAF receives its first AEW&C system. The deal would cost Pakistan about $1.7 billion (approximately Rs 90 billion) during the next five years, and it will constitute the biggest defence purchase by the Musharraf administration. During his recently concluded visit to Sweden, President Pervez Musharraf is understood to have held extensive discussions with the Swedish leadership on Pakistan’s interest in the AEW&CS, sources familiar with the discussions in Sweden said.

Sweden had earlier turned down Pakistan’s requests on the reasons ranging from democracy to child labour. Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Sa’adat Kaleem will be visiting Sweden to further negotiate the deal later this month. The sources said the AEW&CS would not only help Pakistan to counter-balance the Indian acquisition of the Israeli Phalcon airborne surveillance system, it will boast the Pakistan Air Force’s and the Navy’s reaction capabilities by providing early and specific warnings. In the Rs 7.6 trillion defence budget announced this week, the Indian government has earmarked the largest sum for country’s air force by committing to buy new combat aircraft, airborne warning and control systems and missiles during the current year.

"The AEW&CS from Sweden, F-7 from China, upgraded Mirages from France and fresh supplies of Mirage spare parts from Libya would help the PAF meet the air challenge from our arch rival," commented a retired PAF air marshal. Pakistan had first shown interest in the purchase of AWE&CS from Sweden in 1995 when the then Pakistani prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, had visited Stockholm and had requested the then Swedish premier, Olf Palme, to approve the sale. "For nine years we have tried to secure these aircraft from SAAB/Erricson," said an official source.

While the PAF made a determined effort to induct the SAAB AEW&CS into its fleet, but in its process to replace the Fokkers, the PIA tested the SAAB 2000, fitted with engine from Allison/Rolls Royce ATR and Dash-8 fitted with engines from Pratt and Whitney. With the PAF’s deal for SAAB-based AEW&C almost complete, it is now almost certain that the PIA would approve a strong internal recommendation for the SAAB 2000. "It makes more sense because the SAAB will be setting facility for the maintenance of the PAF’s SAAB 2000 in the country," said an official. "It’s much feasible, both financially as well as technically, to have a combined maintenance facility for the PAF’s and the PIA’s SAAB fleet."


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posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 01:22 AM
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Interesting. I wonder if the Swedes will try to offer the Grippen if the US balks at the F-16 sale? Its a perfect fir for thier AF and without another sale, the Grippen and the Rafale are pretty much done as far as the export market is concerned



posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 03:40 AM
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The official site of the system : products.saab.se...



posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 03:42 AM
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posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 03:45 AM
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posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
Interesting. I wonder if the Swedes will try to offer the Grippen if the US balks at the F-16 sale? Its a perfect fir for thier AF and without another sale, the Grippen and the Rafale are pretty much done as far as the export market is concerned


no France has put an arms embargo on pakistan as it is a military dictatorship that sponsor's terrorism in Kashmir.
source so no Rafale's

The Grippen may become a reality after this deal

The F-16, Rafle, Grippen have been offered to india too.



posted on Feb, 7 2005 @ 02:38 AM
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just researched a little bit more.

Sweden, by state policy has decided NOT to sell any offensive weapons to Pakistan, on account of it being a military dictatorship, that sponsors terrorism and for not taking any steps to curb child labour



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 10:15 PM
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If the PAF got Grippens or Viggens,they would be on the same level as the IAF. I don't see why the Swedish government wouldn't sell it to them,they could make money and anyway the PAF could just get some other planes.



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by W4rl0rD
If the PAF got Grippens or Viggens,they would be on the same level as the IAF.


first of all india are getting those :
www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

second of all, even if pak got em, they would never come to the same level

read the second post in www.abovetopsecret.com...

vayu-sena.tripod.com...



I don't see why the Swedish government wouldn't sell it to them,they could make money and anyway the PAF could just get some other planes.


because Sweden is not China

www.armyinkashmir.org...



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 10:34 PM
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-.- Indian source again....Could you get me a western source? Especially the one on Sweden not selling its Saab fighters to Pakistan



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 10:40 PM
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even better i'll give you a pakistani source. here is a pakistani defence forum, where pakistani's are discussing the same thing. the sweden not selling part is in between, press Ctrl+F and look for the exact link and words yourself

www.pakistanidefenceforum.com...



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 03:59 PM
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So is that why Pakistan is negotiating for French missiles and radars for JF-17? Ehmm yeah, no...



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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LMOA this is coming from someone whose own country is infested with millions of child laborers. Terrorists my rear end. Like you support the BLA terrorists and other anti-Pakistan elements.


[edit on 3-4-2008 by hitman666]



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 04:04 PM
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We don't need their fighter jets. We have other more reliable options now.



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 04:19 PM
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Just an update


Swedish AWACS aircraft built for Pakistan rolled out

Thu, Apr 3 05:31 PM

Islamabad, Apr 3 (PTI) The first of the five Swedish airborne early warning and control system (AWACS) aircraft being built for Pakistan has been rolled out and will be delivered to the country by next year. In a statement issued today, the PAF described the rolling out of the Saab 2000 Erieye aircraft before Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmed in Sweden as a "major landmark" in its airborne early warning programme.

"The acquisition of airborne early warning capability by the PAF would greatly enhance its defensive capability and is an essential part of its modernisation efforts," Ahmed said. He added that the achievement of airborne early warning capability will provide a much needed boost to Pakistan's security needs.

Swedish defence major Saab will deliver the first of five airborne early warning and control system aircraft to Pakistan by next year. After being rolled out in Sweden, the first aircraft will be prepared for flight trials by the yearend after being equipped with a full suite of mission systems, including radars and avionics.

The aircraft will be put through trials before being delivered to the PAF. Pakistan signed a contract with Saab for the AWACS in June 2006 and the aircraft have been specially developed to PAF's requirements.

The aircraft will also be equipped with electronic surveillance support systems for intelligence gathering and a full set of defensive aids. The project merges Saab's 2000 turboprop aircraft with Ericsson's Erieye radar system.

Pakistan is also negotiating with China for acquiring additional AWACS.

Source: in.news.yahoo.com...



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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Good update.
Do we know if there are any technical/technological restrictions put on this a/c and its technology going to China?

NATO/USA has no direct influence with the Swedes except the 404 engines for the Gripen.

This force is meant to serve a new area of AEW only for the AFor is it also meant as an eventual complement for the Navy as well?
The Atlantiques only play an ASW role IIRC.



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 05:46 PM
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I don't think there is any discussion with SAAB on ToT. Therefore the tech must be restricted, however I cannot confirm this 100%.

True, the Gripen is a different story.

Nope. PN will be equipped with perhaps Chinese and most definitely US AWACS (3 E-2C Hawkeye 2000 system).

[edit on 3-4-2008 by hitman666]



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