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Jesus did not come for you but for his Jewish brothers and sisters.

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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 05:55 AM
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originally posted by: HeliocentricFantasy
a reply to: DeathSlayer




The Jews have done exactly what God wanted


Does that include getting Jesus killed?


Yes.




posted on May, 19 2017 @ 05:55 AM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: DeathSlayer

If the Jews had have been a light to the Gentiles then maybe the Gentiles would have understood what the Messiah was about
As it was, most of the Jews didn't know what the Messiah was about

If the Jews hadn't have failed so badly at their chosen purpose (being a light to the Gentiles) then Jesus could have effected the Gentiles, as it was, the Gentiles had no idea about Judaism, other that they were arrogant tosses

And now look, the christian church have become arrogant tosses as well

God is love, your teachings don't indicate that God is love


The Jews have done exactly what God wanted and yet you place blame on them. Is that the love you talk about?



What hanging Him on a cross
Making up laws

Are you a calvinist, that would make sense if you talk non sense



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 05:56 AM
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originally posted by: HeliocentricFantasy
a reply to: DeathSlayer




The Jews have done exactly what God wanted


Does that include getting Jesus killed?


Correct.

Of course not all, but mainly the religious leaders at the time wanted him dead and acheived it didn't they? BUT the end result will be terrifying for them.

The rejection Of Christ and his crucifixtion has opened the door to the world through the Jewish people.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 05:56 AM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: Raggedyman




What do you think Israel were chosen for exactly?
Back in Gen . God made a promise about the woman's seed . At Babel God created the Nations and then created Israel who the promised woman's seed would come through .Although God used them , like He uses us ,we also like them fail but God has a way of bringing about His plan despite us humans . But His plan was to reverse what happened in the garden and what happened at Babel . Remember that He turned His back on us and put other gods over the Nations . If you study the new Testament you see the same Nations mentioned in Gen .where God using mostly Paul to plant Gentile Churches . Also there were the 5,000 Jews from other Nations that got saved at Pentacost and went back home .

Once the disciples figured out that the Gentiles were part of the plan as well as them , the two became one in Christ . But salvation was for the Jew first .



And without the Jew we would have no salvation....


Oh ok I get it, the Jews are the real Messiahs
Because without them we would have no salvation, Christ would be useless
I will praise and worship them in future instead of Jesus
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 05:57 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer




The rejection Of Christ and his crucifixtion has opened the door to the world through the Jewish people.


Meaning what?




And without the Jew we would have no salvation....


Meaning what?
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 05:58 AM
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So there ain't gonna be no rapture? Sheet, I was looking forward to a world without religion.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 05:58 AM
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originally posted by: HeliocentricFantasy
a reply to: DeathSlayer




The rejection Of Christ and his crucifixtion has opened the door to the world through the Jewish people.


Meaning what?


That only true missionaries can be Jews I think, because they are the chosen ones, I think



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:00 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
So there ain't gonna be no rapture? Sheet, I was looking forward to a world without religion.


I am told they grow potatoes in Idaho, kinda figures



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:00 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
So there ain't gonna be no rapture? Sheet, I was looking forward to a world without religion.


Rapture is make belief.....

Something "made up" in 1840 DARBY....



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:01 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Lazarus Short

You might just want to google the names of the 12 tribes of Israel
Jews are Hebrews or loosely Israelies
Judaism is the religion, Jews are the practitioners, not a tribe
All 12 tribes make up the Jewish people

Samaritans from Samaria were not Jews, they were Samaritans.
They didn't go to the temple in Jerusalem, hence Israel and Judah and the big split

So many people are so confused around here


Well, that's nice - I correct the OP, and get corrected. Yes, I am well aware of what you posted, Raggedyman.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:05 AM
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The rejection Of Christ and his crucifixtion has opened the door to the world through the Jewish people.


It opened the door to the world from what. And how?




And without the Jew we would have no salvation....


What salvation, what causes salvation and what does it have to do with Jews?
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:06 AM
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And without the Jew we would have no salvation....
Without Gods plan we would be lost and so would the Jews . disclaimer ...I use the term "Jew" to refer the Old Testament Hebrews but the Jew came from Judea and other "Jews" were not from Judea but we cast the whole lot of them into this term "Jew" . Todays Judaism is nothing like the 1st century Israelite religion . That old system died with the Temple and I don't think it will ever come back ,but it wouldn't really serve any purpose anyway even if man decided to resurrect it .



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:07 AM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: HeliocentricFantasy
a reply to: DeathSlayer




The Jews have done exactly what God wanted


Does that include getting Jesus killed?


Yes.


Why did God want the Jews to want to see Jesus killed?



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:15 AM
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originally posted by: HeliocentricFantasy
a reply to: DeathSlayer




The rejection Of Christ and his crucifixtion has opened the door to the world through the Jewish people.


It opened the door to the world from what. And how?




And without the Jew we would have no salvation....


What salvation, what causes salvation and what does it have to do with Jews?


As they bring salvation with Jesus ..... they bring destruction with judgement...through Christ who will/does Judge and Rule.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:16 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

No answer.....typical.

Funny how there is always a load of unexplained "salvation" drivel.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:21 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: DeathSlayer
"I have other sheep who are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice". John ch10 v16


Sometimes I wonder if Jesus really said all the worship me is the only way stuff. I just think Jesus was advocating a way of being. He wasn't trying to make a cult of personality. That seem to come hundreds of years later from the scribes and translators.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

RE: resurrect it .

Nice pun.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: DeathSlayer
Yes, God never intended to confine himself to the Old Testament nation alone. That was just the starting-point. He was training them up to teach the rest of the world.



It's amazing how people just know exactly what God is thinking.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: HeliocentricFantasy




Why did God want the Jews to want to see Jesus killed?
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He didn't but He knew Jesus would be rejected because of their expectations of The Messiah would be . God didn't make it exactly clear in the Old Testament because like Paul wrote in the New Testament " Had they of known ,they would not have crucified Him" . Paul was referring not to the humans but to the Spiritual Powers ,ie the Devil and his fallen Angels .
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015
All I'm doing is summarising what is contained in the Bible; if someone goes to the trouble of telling us what he is thinking, then what he says can be reported as his thoughts.



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