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US air strikes hit SAA convoy on the way to the Tanf border crossing

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posted on May, 18 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Were these good Islamic terrorist beheaders or bad Islamic terrorist beheaders?




posted on May, 18 2017 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Secular people.



posted on May, 18 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Trump does not need to authorize it. He gave the Pentagon pretty much free reign to conduct their operations as they see fit. if they felt their forces were in danger, then they did what had to be done. Note this is not an endorsement by me, I am simply stating that Trump would not have had any part in that direct action. The order probably came from about five miles south of me.



posted on May, 18 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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You know despite his NUMEROUS campaign statements Donald Trump doesn't seem particularly dedicated to fighting Islamic Terrorism at all. In fact he seems to be actively helping the Islamists in Syria.

Indeed Trump's Syria policy seems almost identical to Hillary's Syria policy, which I feel was one of the reasons people voted for Trump over the Butcher of Libya.



posted on May, 18 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: DrStevenBrule

They were not terrorist be-headers at all. In fact, some were probably Christian.



posted on May, 18 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: essentialtremors

originally posted by: Flatcoat

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: WhereAmEYE

originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: allsee4eye
Guess they should have listened.

Don't mess with our special forces or you will face the consequences

I hate any loss of life but our troops have to come first! Sorry you don't feel that way.



How dare the Syrians and Iraqis move about their countries freely, such audacity! Our special forces can do no harm and can go where ever they want when ever they want because we're Murika!

/Sarcasm

You are a classic Jingo by the very definition. How's that American Exceptionalism going for you? Must feel nice to be so sedated.


I celebrated mine by having my flag up, while grilling, while having a beer, and throwing a football with my kids.

It was....exceptional.


Yep, and that's why your country's constantly at war.


I'm willing to bet that your country is most likely operating over there too.

Is your country apart of NATO by chance?


Nope, but my country does tend to follow the US into whichever country they decide to invade and I'm ashamed of that. What I was referring to was the american attitude of "raise the flag, praise the troops, crack open a beer and watch the bombs go off on the tv" every time the US attacks another nation.



posted on May, 18 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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One thing the ME is not short of is people. They have a very high birth rate. Americans can't kill them all.

www.almasdarnews.com...



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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Syrian air force MiG-29 jets armed with R-77 ready for air cover. R-77 is on par with AMRAAM.

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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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SAA and allies reached Zarqa, now 29 km from Tanf.

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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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video showing SAA and allies reached outskirts of Tanf




posted on May, 19 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Syrian air force MiG-29 jets armed with R-77 ready for air cover. R-77 is on par with AMRAAM.

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I honestly don't think it's anywhere near an AMRAAM

And the mig29 isn't close to a F22. Not even in the same hemisphere. It won't come to that but if it did, US would own the sky. And not a "murican" before you ask



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 03:32 PM
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SAA and allies reached 15 km from Tanf.

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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: expatwhite

MiG-29 is on par with F-16. R-77 is on par with AIM-120. The US isn't going to shoot down a Syrian jet in Syrian airspace without being attacked. That would spark a very big war and pull Iran and Iraq into the war which would make Trump impeached.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

The MiG-29 is on par with the F-16, under very specific conditions. The F-16 outclasses it in many conditions. And no, that's not "rah rah USA", that's based on factual tests performed with a MiG-29, flown by a highly experienced pilot. At specific ranges, the Fulcrum beat every Western aircraft flown against it. Once they got to ranges outside that, the ability for the Fulcrum to beat them dropped precipitously.



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 04:26 PM
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MiG-21, F-4, Mirage III are second generation. Technologically wise they are on par.

MiG-29, F-16, Mirage 2000 are third generation. Technologically wise they are on par.

Anyhow, no one is going to shoot at anyone. They just have to escort them out of airspace.
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Zaphod58

MiG-29, F-16, Mirage 2000, F-18 are small size third generation. Su-27 and F-15 are large size third generation. Technologically wise they are on par.

MiG-21, F-4, Mirage III are second generation. Technologically wise they are on par.


MiG-29 etc. are all 4th generation.

Variants of the MiG-21, F-4 and Mirage III are either second or third generation, depending on the variant. Some F-4 and MiG-21 upgrades make them 4th generation-ish, kind of.
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka

Generation number is confusing sometimes. My point being, MiG-21 and F-4 and Mirage III are the same generation from the 1960s, MiG-29 and F-16 and Mirage 2000 are the same generation from the 1980s.
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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No, they're not. There is a LOT more to it than "small size third generation" or "large size third generation".

For one thing, they're fourth generation, but that's not really here nor there.

When the MiG-29 was tested, it was found that the pilot spent a lot of time looking in the cockpit, the radar gave very basic information, and wasn't very intuitive.

The F-16, and most Western fighters, on the other hand, were designed around the HOTAS (Hands On Throttle And Stick) principle. All the weapons and radar switches are on either the throttle, or control stick. There's no reason for the pilot to be looking down in the cockpit for most functions, or any of the weapons functions beyond turning on the Master Arm switch. They have a better radar, and longer range.

The MiG had the advantage in short range combat due to slightly better maneuverability, a better short range IR missile, and a helmet mounted system to lock on to opposing aircraft without having to point the missile at them. Western aircraft didn't get that capability until the 90s or later.

Just because two aircraft are the same size, or built at the same time doesn't make them comparable. The MiG-29 was a Soviet weapon system. They had a totally different philosophy towards war fighting than the West did. They went for a short range fight rather than a fight beyond visual range like the West did. The MiG-29 has a long range capability, but is optimized for maneuverability. Western fighters are largely optimized for long range fights, with the ability to fight at short range.

And that's not even getting into upgrades like AESA/PESA radars, better computers, etc.

No, they probably won't shoot at each other. But if it does happen, as unlikely as it is, it won't be as simple as "they're technologically comparable".


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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 04:48 PM
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Correct. These planes are upgraded over time. The latest F-16 model F-16E has AESA and all those gadgets and more powerful engine. The latest MiG-29 model MiG-35 has AESA and all those gadgets and more powerful engine. Jordanian F-16 model F-16C and Syrian MiG-29 model MiG-29SM are upgraded versions but not the latest versions.
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