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originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: the2ofusr1
It's usually the 'born again' Christians who are the worst. After having often lived a life of hedonism they go the complete opposite direction, over compensating for the 'bad' life they feel they have previously lived.
It also attracts people with addictive personalities. These people are addicted code followers who absolutely have to read into every single nuance in scripture. Bible junkies we Catholics used to call them.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
Paul expounded on the teachings of Jesus yet many just ignore them for their own pleasure and desires.
Basically what is seems is that you are judging them by a standard of which you believe is the teachings of Jesus.
Do you practice what you you believe are his teachings or just using it to judge others by it?
no one I know believers we are "holier than thou". Jesus holiness is imputed to us but we are unable at all times to remain in that Holiness because of our main enemy, out flesh.
Stop judging and live it is all I can say.
I know a lot of people like this and not all of them are christians. Some are atheist, some are hindu, some have their own ideologies that they don't even talk about. I don't think any religion makes one person better. I think good people can fall into almost any category. We all know that not everything in the bible or the quran is something that will make all of our lives better. I think that is why most people throw these religions out of their lives. I can speak about my experiences when i really started reading the bible and i could not accept most of the old testament, and a great deal of the new testament. When i read the impossible claims, i didn't try to shoehorn those beliefs into my reality. I rejected the words because they didn't match my observations of the world. I recognise these as just stories. Just like greek mythology. These stories are supposed to teach you about how a person develops from a young person into an adult with responsibilities. But it falls short in so many ways. what it does show is that people can believe anything you teach them. Whether it can be proven to be true or not. Once you have taught a child something, it is very difficult for them to accept anything else.
originally posted by: rickymouse
I know some people who are Christians that actually incorporate Jesus's teachings in their life. They are very good people. You can find these people, they are happy, they are very helpful, they will give you the shirt off of their back if you need it. They are not judgemental at all. They help others just to help others, not for monetary or prestigious gain.
I know maybe twenty people like this, out of the thousands of Christians I know. They are rare but they do exist, scattered amongst the churches out there in this country.
originally posted by: SeaWorthy
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: dfnj2015
Over and over i say this... Christianity doesn't focus on Jesus teaching
Its mainly Paul, and everything else in the book other then the gospels
I somewhat agree reading Mathew Mark luke and john gives what seems to fit the truth that is built in the heart I personally trust in this and don't need anymore, I think we will find in the last days we will have the older books found (released from hiding) and we will know the whole truth.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
I know a lot of people like this and not all of them are christians. Some are atheist, some are hindu, some have their own ideologies that they don't even talk about. I don't think any religion makes one person better. I think good people can fall into almost any category. We all know that not everything in the bible or the quran is something that will make all of our lives better. I think that is why most people throw these religions out of their lives. I can speak about my experiences when i really started reading the bible and i could not accept most of the old testament, and a great deal of the new testament. When i read the impossible claims, i didn't try to shoehorn those beliefs into my reality. I rejected the words because they didn't match my observations of the world. I recognise these as just stories. Just like greek mythology. These stories are supposed to teach you about how a person develops from a young person into an adult with responsibilities. But it falls short in so many ways. what it does show is that people can believe anything you teach them. Whether it can be proven to be true or not. Once you have taught a child something, it is very difficult for them to accept anything else.
originally posted by: rickymouse
I know some people who are Christians that actually incorporate Jesus's teachings in their life. They are very good people. You can find these people, they are happy, they are very helpful, they will give you the shirt off of their back if you need it. They are not judgemental at all. They help others just to help others, not for monetary or prestigious gain.
I know maybe twenty people like this, out of the thousands of Christians I know. They are rare but they do exist, scattered amongst the churches out there in this country.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: dfnj2015
I have never known Christians to be judgmental or bigoted. I think you probably see in others what you yourself reflect.
8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.
12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.
14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves (to sin), so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
Originally posted dfnj2015
People who idolize and worship Jesus seem to be the opposite of what Jesus taught. People seem very judgmental, arrogant, belligerent, bigots, and prejudice in their thinking. I've just never been interested in Holier Than Thou church near my house. I've never had any interested in being like any of the people who idolize there.