This is a great topic. Much of the information is here but I believe its a bit fuzzy still.
The worship of the sungod started with Nimrod in sumeria.
You will find in the origins myths of cultures worldwide , the same story that is in babylon.
In the bible, you will find these people when Tyre, and Sidon are mentioned.
Its important to draw a relation between the coast of lebanon, carthiage, the coasts of Spain, and even England.
Later we will also discuss how the bible says that the New World and Old were much closer together at one time.
Check out this bible prophecy against Tyre (tyre is in the modern day location of Lebanon, ...and Island that USE to be a few hundred yards out to
sea...but then came Alexander the Great...and he took all the ruble from the old city on land that Babylon had destroyed and built a jetty out to the
island and crushed it.
sa 23:1 The burden of Tyre. Howl, ye ships of Tarshish; for it is laid waste, so that there is no house, no entering in: from the land of Kittim it
is revealed to them.
Isa 23:2 Be still, ye inhabitants of the coast, thou whom the merchants of Sidon, that pass over the sea, have replenished.
Isa 23:3 And on great waters the seed of the Shihor, the harvest of the Nile, was her revenue; and she was the mart of nations.
Isa 23:4 Be thou ashamed, O Sidon; for the sea hath spoken, the stronghold of the sea, saying, I have not travailed, nor brought forth, neither have
I nourished young men, nor brought up virgins.
Isa 23:5 When the report cometh to Egypt, they shall be sorely pained at the report of Tyre.
Isa 23:6 Pass ye over to Tarshish; wail, ye inhabitants of the coast.
Isa 23:7 Is this your joyous city, whose antiquity is of ancient days, whose feet carried her afar off to sojourn?
The 'ships of tarshish' or Tarsis, a city on the southern coast of Spain at the time, are mentioned many times in the bible.
They started in Lebanon
They were pushed west.
They established cities on Cyprus, at Carthiage, in Spain, They are known in the biible to have traveled to places within a Year and a Half away for a
total round trip of 3 years.
One of the products that they traded in was Tin. At that time, the only available tin was mined in England.
Jer 10:9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and
purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men.
Uphaz is an unknown place. Here we see the purple again though.
Check out this one
Eze 27:3 And say unto Tyrus, O thou that art situate at the entry of the sea, which art a merchant of the people for many isles, Thus saith the Lord
GOD; O Tyrus, thou hast said, I am of perfect beauty.
Eze 27:4 Thy borders are in the midst of the seas, thy builders have perfected thy beauty.
Gebal in this is Byblos
Ezekiel goes on with more about Tarsish
Eze 27:25 The ships of Tarshish did sing of thee in thy market: and thou wast replenished, and made very glorious in the midst of the seas.
Eze 27:26 Thy rowers have brought thee into great waters: the east wind hath broken thee in the midst of the seas.
The great waters and east wind are an indication here. If it had just said sea or seas, it would be debatable, but since the Mediteranian Sea was the
birth place and home of Tarshish, the 'great waters' are something different.
From the above we know that these people were always on the outskirts of major civilization. How far they sailed we can only guess at.
The bible offers two ideas for Atlantis
The first being a tale handed down about the preflood world
The second is the new world.
The bible says that the earth wasnt separated until the days of Peleg, after the flood.
The flood of noah was caused when the fountains of the deep burst open.
The dark lines on the map are (according to the Hydroplate Theory) said to be where the single Pangea land mass cracked open. After the flood, that
area in the atlantic was the separation of europe africa and the americas.
That aside, lets follow the greatest naval powers of history since Tarshish aka the Pheonecians.
1.) They started in the mideast
3.) Spanish coast
Why take it that far?
There is more bible prophecy
God scattered the Jews using the Roman Empire.
God promised to restore Israel to their country.
Zionism was born late in the 1800's.
The UK Took the Mideast from Turkey during WW1 and the jews started coming back.
At the end of WW2 they started coming back in large numbers.
Remember how we showed Spain and the UK, with the UK being the last, as the possible current day Tarshish?
Isa 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of Jehovah is risen upon thee.
Isa 60:2 For, behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the peoples; but Jehovah will arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen
Isa 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?
Isa 60:9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, for
the name of Jehovah thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.
Isa 60:10 And foreigners shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favor have I had
mercy on thee.
Notice how it also spoke of people flying back to Israel?
Considering when Isaiah was written, I think its pretty cool.
Israel is now a country, but there are two more things to ID the UK and Spain as tarshish.
In the coming Gog-Magog nuclear war, a massive army approaches Israel that is thought to be combined Muslim and Russian.
The people who object to this are Saudi Arabia, the other countries on that peninsula, Tarshish and her young lions.
Eze 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take the spoil?
hast thou assembled thy company to take the prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take great spoil?
You should go check this out, but the Royal symbol of the Spanish and English Monarchy is the Lion.
Spain and England are basically the fathers of the new world. Brazil being Portugese.
Who would possibly object to a large Russian army in the mideast?
That aside, I believe that there were different migrations of people to the new world at different times. DNA testing only recently confirmed a second
migration from Indonesia to the americas.
Hope this provided some clues to help fill out the whole picture
[edit on 5-2-2005 by jake1997]