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Trump “revealed more information to Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies”

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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
And now the Russian press is bragging how they played Trump for classified info.

www.rawstory.com...


u might want to read that last paragraph

“The article mentions no evidence, it is based on information received from some sources. Actually, there is a typical pattern concerning the way that such articles come out and the response that they get,” Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova insisted.

so they are basing this off the WAPO article aswell




posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: Tayumar

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Butterfinger
If we dont know what was transferred how does something "so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government" allow "former U.S. officials" to tell us about it?



It was code-word classified.

Reporters and sources are not specifying what it was only it's classification and reason for classification.

This is just insane...He shared intelligence with the Russians that the Intelligence Community hasn't even felt comfortable sharing with our allies.



The president can choose to share whatever info he/she deems necessary. Russia is not an enemy. They are actually fighting isis.


Yes..Russia is an enemy..They are not fighting ISIS, they are defending a puppet dictator they own in Syria.

If you are having problems telling the difference Between fightin Terrorist Extremists and defending the dictatorship a of Assad...

Again...all of Trumps Generals and Military Advisors and the IC say with certaintity that Russia is now funding and arming the Taliban in Afghanistan ...And yes American Soldiers are still dying there.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: neo96

No.


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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: shooterbrody

WaPO didn't get ahold of anything. H.R. McMaster went on air and said he was there there was zero classified information shared.

Liberals are just dreaming again, making up their fantasies, LARPing if you will.


That's not what he said. He said no methods or sources were disclosed. And it doesnt even matter what McMaster said, since Trump admitted he gave classified info to the Russians.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
And now the Russian press is bragging how they played Trump for classified info.

www.rawstory.com...


Yay, we're laughing stocks for the umpteenth time under Trump and we're only into month four.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

On one hand we're supposed to believe Russian Intel is capable of "hacking" our election and inserting their "puppet". And on the other hand we're supposed to believe Russian Intel is so lacking that they didn't already know what city Isis is running operations out of? Sounds to me like if trump did share info, it's about as basic as Intel can get. But the liberal media jumps all over it with words like "highly classified" "anonymous sources" and people are outraged because they're told they're supposed to be. The situation is laughable.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Maybe Trump didn't know what the little "c" meant in the documents.

Hey! It happens!




One would think EVERYTHING talked about with ALL governments in that inner circle is at least confidential up to include TS. I been in a lot of need to know meetings and people come and go based on the security level throughout the meeting unless everyone meets the need to know. If Trump spoke about laptops being used I don't think he would have enough information off he top of his head to give the Russians anything more than an overview, outside of that he would have a folder to use to address the topic.

All of it is basically stupid... But hey it sold a lot of liberals newspapers...



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: jordan77

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: shooterbrody

WaPO didn't get ahold of anything. H.R. McMaster went on air and said he was there there was zero classified information shared.

Liberals are just dreaming again, making up their fantasies, LARPing if you will.


That's not what he said. He said no methods or sources were disclosed. And it doesnt even matter what McMaster said, since Trump admitted he gave classified info to the Russians.


he says he gave them intelligence on the terrorists and airlines. your assuming he gave classified intel



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: TheScale

originally posted by: olaru12
And now the Russian press is bragging how they played Trump for classified info.

www.rawstory.com...


u might want to read that last paragraph

“The article mentions no evidence, it is based on information received from some sources. Actually, there is a typical pattern concerning the way that such articles come out and the response that they get,” Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova insisted.

so they are basing this off the WAPO article aswell


....because there was no American press allowed...

"American media were not permitted in the room for Trump’s meeting with the Russian officials, but the White House allowed Tass to attend. The Tass report, however, does not deny that Trump passed secrets to the Russians."



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74

originally posted by: olaru12
And now the Russian press is bragging how they played Trump for classified info.

www.rawstory.com...


Yay, we're laughing stocks for the umpteenth time under Trump and we're only into month four.


read the last paragraph. its a propaganda piece just like the wapo piece. it even admits it has no evidence.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: Kali74

I thought FOX NEWS LIES.

Which days do they tell the truth so I can mark them on my calendar.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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Just imagine if a Democrat President had even a hint of Trump's kind of controversy. Sites like ATS would explode. But, for Trump, you guys who are so anxious to find conspiracy in everything, see nothing wrong with a the Pres allowing Russian ambassadors into the Oval Office, and sharing top-secret info with them. Self-delusional, 'poorly educated', hypocrites. Your hatred for Hillary and Obama have blinded you to a clearly incompetent, corrupt buffoon whose refusal to pay any heed to expert advise is placing this country and our armed forces serving over-seas in jeopardy. As I say, if this was a 'D' president, you guys would be organizing marches, threatening armed revolt, and forming militias by now. Pathetic

Worst. President. Ever.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3

originally posted by: TheScale

originally posted by: olaru12
And now the Russian press is bragging how they played Trump for classified info.

www.rawstory.com...


u might want to read that last paragraph

“The article mentions no evidence, it is based on information received from some sources. Actually, there is a typical pattern concerning the way that such articles come out and the response that they get,” Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova insisted.

so they are basing this off the WAPO article aswell


....because there was no American press allowed...

"American media were not permitted in the room for Trump’s meeting with the Russian officials, but the White House allowed Tass to attend. The Tass report, however, does not deny that Trump passed secrets to the Russians."


the information they say is highly classified pertains to the laptops possibly being used as bombs. which if u remember right was issued last march to the american people. so highly classified that they made it public....
edit on 16-5-2017 by TheScale because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: neo96

I didn't want to frighten you. Even Fox gets direct quotes right.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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Apparently some people in the intelligence community are very unhappy with Trump running his mouth with the commies.

www.rawstory.com...



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: TheScale

originally posted by: MOMof3

originally posted by: TheScale

originally posted by: olaru12
And now the Russian press is bragging how they played Trump for classified info.

www.rawstory.com...


u might want to read that last paragraph

“The article mentions no evidence, it is based on information received from some sources. Actually, there is a typical pattern concerning the way that such articles come out and the response that they get,” Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova insisted.

so they are basing this off the WAPO article aswell


....because there was no American press allowed...

"American media were not permitted in the room for Trump’s meeting with the Russian officials, but the White House allowed Tass to attend. The Tass report, however, does not deny that Trump passed secrets to the Russians."


the information they say is highly classified pertains to the laptops possibly being used as bombs. which if u remember right was issued last march to the american people. so highly classified that they made it public....


They can also be used to hack aircraft.

They are not anywhere close to being secured.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: N9neXkrayzie

Haha, nice, you've pulled a wonderful assumption straight out of your ass. You have never been in the intelligence gathering industry, so your musings on any aspect therein is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

Russians are likely propping up Isis where it benefits them as much as going against US interest (just as we did/do with them). We are only 'allies' against terrorism where it benefits us both (which isn't everywhere).

The russian intelligence apparatus is versed in backtracking through information to derive sources. A buffoon like the donald could easily be suckered into blabbing about information (that he felt wasn't secret) which could be used by the russians to figure out who's working for us (and then do any number of nefarious deeds with that information).



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:53 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Apparently some people in the intelligence community are very unhappy with Trump running his mouth with the commies.

www.rawstory.com...


honestly for one second just think about that claim and take away the countries involved and the people. would u be against warning others of terrorism and the danger it poses with laptops on planes, ie commercial flights, and the possibility of preventing innocent people from being killed by such an attack?



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 09:53 AM
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originally posted by: N9neXkrayzie
a reply to: Ohanka

On one hand we're supposed to believe Russian Intel is capable of "hacking" our election and inserting their "puppet". And on the other hand we're supposed to believe Russian Intel is so lacking that they didn't already know what city Isis is running operations out of? Sounds to me like if trump did share info, it's about as basic as Intel can get. But the liberal media jumps all over it with words like "highly classified" "anonymous sources" and people are outraged because they're told they're supposed to be. The situation is laughable.

I don't think you understand how intel works. You don't share it with regional rivals who are under sanctions and who are actively destabilising entire regions. You just don't. You can't trust them.
Yes, the situation is indeed laughable, but not for the reasons you think. Trump is showing himself to be so far out of his depth he's no longer visible underwater. If he tells the Russians about even basic intel then the NATO powers are going to go very quiet in terms of sharing their own intel.
Trump is a joke.




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