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Trump “revealed more information to Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies”

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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Krazysh0t

That point is totally lost here hon.

This blows my mind. They are literally defending Trump doing the EXACT thing they were terrified of Hillary doing because of the email scandal.


Evidence. Proof. Something more than theory is actually the difference here, what is more is you know it.




posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

Right...



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Krazysh0t

As opposed to sitting in silence?

I dont see how the tweet invalidates Mcmasters statement.

So you have no problems with Trump sharing classified information with Russia? Information that we aren't even allowed to share with our closest allies? That isn't concerning in the LEAST to you?


personally, no i dont if its only relevant to russia in the theater we are both operating in. this information could have just came across his desk that morning aswell and intends to share it with our allies, just hasent had the opportunity. theres alot of assuming going on. presidents are elected which means the people deem them fit to serve office and make these decisions. we arent in the loop to be able to have an honest opinion without the facts. its irresponsible to think we do.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Well you would say in theory that he has a right to share information if deemed necessary for saving/ensuring citizens lives right? But then, the WaPo didn't specify what classified info was shared.

Hmm. Well, Hilary mishandled a load of classified documents, so Trump as POTUS doing what he wants is fine.

Look, I'm not Pro either side. The whole thing is murky.

Meanwhile Seth Rich articles come out at the same time and I can't help but feel the old left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.


Side note: I stress, I am not Pro either side.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:45 AM
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So there is no he said she said confusion
Mcmasters statement
thehill.com...



McMaster, who participated in the meeting, released a statement Monday night denying that any classified information was disclosed. “The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” the security head said. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”

That was the released statement
www.washingtonexaminer.com...


"The story that came out tonight as reported is false. The president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, including threats to civil aviation. At no time, at no time, were intelligence sources or methods discussed and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known," McMaster said in a press conference Monday evening. "The record should outweigh the anonymous sources. I was in the room. It didn't happen," McMaster added.

That was at the press conference he held

Neither is in dispute with what trump tweeted.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:46 AM
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What The Washington Post said:

President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.


What McMaster said:

The story that came out tonight as reported is false. The president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, including threats to civil aviation.
At no time, at no time, where intelligent sources or methods discussed. And the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known.


What Trump said:

As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining.......to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.


so the anti trump rundown is that:
Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister
McMaster said Trump didn't
Trump tweeted that he did
So McMasters is a liar, trump is guilty of treason and threw McMaster under the bus and is a Russian plant and should be impeached?



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

You know the term 'allies' refers to a group of other countries, right? Just because a member of that group shares info with us doesn't mean that the info is shared with ALL allies. You understand how that happens, right? Like, if you tell you friends something, it doesn't mean that suddenly ALL of your friend s know it too. You see? Seriously, if that's what passes for logic among the 'poorly educated', rationally thinking people are never going to be able to explain anything to you Trump supporters. Good thing you're easily distracted by FOX'NEWS' telling you what to think, and bright red baseball caps.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:49 AM
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Just for the record is trump getting russia to help destroy ISIS a bad thing?
krazy?
silly?
kay?



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:49 AM
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@oddnutz

u seem to be injecting your own narrative to what was said. he shared information on terorism and airline safety. in what way does that say he shared the classified information from the intelligence sharing arrangement?
edit on 16-5-2017 by TheScale because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: ThingsThatDontMakeSense

This is a non story. Anyone who has ever held a clearance knows that the president is the ultimate classification authority...

This story is a big distraction from the bombshell news that evidence is showing Seth Rich sent over 40 thousand internal dnc emails to wikileaks before he was murdered...



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: oddnutz

But what an odd response by Trump. If he's saying he has a right to share non-classified info - well, no sh*t Sherlock, we already know that. That isn't what the whole hubbub is about.

He's being purposefully cryptic by not clarifying either way on the classified nature of his "sharing of facts".



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

That is the disconnect I think. Trump hasn't yet mentioned classified anywhere. His tweet is shown above.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: TheScale

I was injecting my own sarcastic interpretation of what antitrump posters seem to think went down while quoting what was actually said by all party's



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:55 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
Just for the record is trump getting russia to help destroy ISIS a bad thing?
krazy?
silly?
kay?


Sure, as long as the information shared is not sensitive. Remember, Russia is not officially our ally. They could use sensitive intel against us. We would be stupid to 100 percent trust Russia.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv
when does he not give an odd response, he is baiting. What he told the Russian Minister was in his authority to do so, and as McMasters stated the story the WaPo run as reported is false.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: TheScale

What was that law they passed right after Nixon? I'm feeling lazy. I heard them talking about some law that was instituted after the Watergate thing.
Ill look it up.

Well that was easy lol

www.archives.gov...
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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: TheScale

I was injecting my own sarcastic interpretation of what antitrump posters seem to think went down while quoting what was actually said by all party's




gotcha. the tone tends to get lost in text.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 08:00 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: TheScale

What was that law they passed right after Nixon? I'm feeling lazy. I heard them talking about some law that was instituted after the Watergate thing.
Ill look it up.


the presidential recording program maybe? i was close atleast
presidential recordings and materials preservation act



edit on 16-5-2017 by TheScale because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 08:02 AM
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War effort takes a back seat to legalistic pedantry apparently.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 08:02 AM
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Just imagine if previous administrations were put under this much scrutiny. Clinton would be in jail.



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