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Trump “revealed more information to Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies”

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posted on May, 15 2017 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: alphabetaone
So, let me get this straight....any press that is favorable to Trump on any topic is valid to all of those here who staunchly support Trump, and any unfavorable press is "FAKE NEWS"?

It's as though we need a minute by minute status update on the pulse of Americans here such that we know which press they're going to believe....


More like the WaPer has been wrong more times on this presidency than I can count in just over 100 days.


Which has absolutely zero to do with what I said. Any news outlet at all, no matter who it is, if they provide favorable Trump news, a vast majority on here quote it and point toward it being valid proof of Trump's (beautiful deed du jour), but if that same publication presents unfavorable Trump news, it's vilified as "FAKE NEWS"....some of you guys are so disingenuous it boggles the mind.


But don't people here vet the news both ways? If a Pro Trump story is garbage, it will be proven and trashed, just as the fake hit pieces, like this one right here.

Integrity isn't party affiliated.




posted on May, 15 2017 @ 11:53 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: network dude

I remember.

My question was an allusion to his remarks about Captain Khan's parents, specifically his mother. Without derailing the thread too much I somehow doubt POTUS would extend the same honor to other (RIP) fallen who happen to be Muslim.

Always a pleasure. I appreciate these discussions. I need some rack time before the sun comes up and bites me in the ass. Good night.


He screwed the pooch on that one. It made me cringe and hope he would shut up. he trolled himself.
good night sir.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Maybe, but you can't in one breath say that (Publication X) is "FAKE NEWS" - by saying that it intimates that all of their columns have no merit - then in the next say "Oh, but this one they got right"....integrity simply does not work that way. And frankly, the ability for anyone HERE to judge whether or not it's fake is limited if non-existent.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: TheScale


What amazes me is the extent some are prepared to ignore raw data about the level of abuse that occurs upon Earth.

And then talk about spin when literally 18,000 children die of starvation every year..

usatoday30.usatoday.com...


What evidence do you have such a comment is spin


It is possible that if you are wrong as well as it is possible you have your head up...........IMHO



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posted on May, 15 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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originally posted by: N9neXkrayzie
a reply to: TheScale

At this point I'm not even sure why Russia is the worlds enemy anymore. Russia Russia Russia
It's pretty obvious to me that a plan was set in place to blame the election loss on Russia rather than Hillary's shortcomings. Russia supposedly hacks the DNC which shows clear collusion between the DNC and our own media to help Hillary win the election. And the major part of that story is the Russian hacks(which I've still seen 0 evidence of) and the "possible" collusion between Russia and trump? What am I missing? How is Russia and trump the story here? Lol there is 0 evidence of collusion yet there's countless emails showing clear collusion between DNC and MSM, and now they're blatantly colluding right before our eyes to diminish the trump admin. and people fall for it.


imo, its too keep up the funding for the military industrial complex. they need a foe that is on equal footing or atleast close to equal to justify the expenditures. the fighting in any of the countries weve step foot in over the last 16 years doesnt require the high technology they keep developing. for some reason people seem jubilant to continue escalating anything to do with russia when those people should be our ally. the common people in russia are very much like americans. they are just as tired of the BS being spewed to further that narrative.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:00 AM
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originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: TheScale


What amazes me is the extent some are prepared to ignore raw data about the level of abuse that occurs upon Earth.

And then talk about spin when literally 18,000 children die of starvation every year..

usatoday30.usatoday.com...


What evidence do you have such a comment is spin


It is possible that if you are wrong you have your head up...........IMHO


srsly weve gone over this. intel sharing has nothing to do with the argument you keep trying to make. let me ask u this, how many products do u have in your home that were produced in countries like china or mexico? i bet u have quite a few which makes u a party to the human rights violation those countries commit on a daily basis. you bring up rape and abortion like they dont exist in countries around the world. weve allready gone over this in another thread yet your mind cant put 2 and 2 together and keeps coming up with 13. for some reason u believe staying at odds with a country while keeping our finger hovering over the button that can decimate the earth as we know it, is somehow a good thing. thus this will be my last reply to your illogical and infantile argument.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:00 AM
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a reply to: alphabetaone

I agree, but when you are a new organization, you have the responsibility to present realistic, truthful news, even if it goes against your narrative, or you just don't report it. This seems to be garbage and leaked garbage at that.

How many times would you give them to do this before you called shenanigans?
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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:07 AM
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a reply to: TheScale


Yes of course a country where its neighbor has 1.3 billion people has point ten greater abortions rate than Russia, that had 143 million people in 2013 is a great country to get along with.

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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:13 AM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: network dude

I remember.

My question was an allusion to his remarks about Captain Khan's parents, specifically his mother. Without derailing the thread too much I somehow doubt POTUS would extend the same honor to other (RIP) fallen who happen to be Muslim.

Always a pleasure. I appreciate these discussions. I need some rack time before the sun comes up and bites me in the ass. Good night.




Well, he could lie to the parents face over the coffins and arrest a film maker.

That's better than a letter.






posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:32 AM
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a reply to: TheScale


What is infantile is your inability to realize that in the Russian Republic Sex offenders get away with behavior that ends the same in the United States, into living under a bridge.

Obviously, you are the member that cannot put 2 and 2 together!!



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:35 AM
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What happens when a serial killer is politically connected?


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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:40 AM
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originally posted by: Kashai


What happens when a serial killer is politically connected?



The same as when a serial pedophile is in congress and gets away with it for decades...what's your point though? The elite get away with despicable # no matter what country they're from. I don't see the relevance to the Russian intel story though?



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:41 AM
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This is so ridiculous and stupid as to come off completely desperate and unhinged. For God's sake, the 2 scoops of ice cream story (fake) has more credibility then this hogwash.

The President is the highest classification authority and can declassify anything at any time he feels it is prudent to do so. There is no authority in this regard above him. If he wants to discuss any information with another country's representative, he can and will do so.

I am not a rabid Trump fan, only a bringer of facts to this nonsense-oriented debate. This kind of tin-foil hat BS hurts open, honest discussion and discourages others from listening to many well thought out opinions and ideas on this website. It's just stupid.

Please do some actual research if you aren't aware of the rules regarding classification in the United States government, especially the Executive branch. If this were some underling spewing secrets, that would be newsworthy. We're talking about the President here. Get a grip and stop making this site seem like it's filled with trailer park rubes too lazy to do basic research.

Carry on.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: stirrednotshaken

Whichever ally supplied that info (likely Israel) will be thinking twice about sharing intel with America in the future.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: N9neXkrayzie

Granted pedophilia is a very serious crime but how about such a person chopping there victim into pieces and getting away with it because they were related to a political official?

Anyone the US political system having such a problem in the last 50 years? No

Anyone in Russia? yes.

Putin is trying to restore what????



Litvinenko claimed Putin was the 'Kremlin paedophile' in blog post months before his death after Russian president was pictured kissing stomach of a young boy


www.dailymail.co.uk...

Why exactly would the leader of a country kiss the stomach of a young boy. I mean perhaps the stomach of a baby but a young boy who in reality is not really that young??

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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 01:00 AM
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originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: N9neXkrayzie

Granted pedophilia is a very serious crime but how about such a person chopping there victim into pieces and getting away with it because they were related to a political official?

Anyone the US political system having such a problem in the last 50 years? No

Anyone in Russia? yes.

Putin is trying to restore what????



Litvinenko claimed Putin was the 'Kremlin paedophile' in blog post months before his death after Russian president was pictured kissing stomach of a young boy


www.dailymail.co.uk...







Ummmm I honestly don't understand the relevance to this other than to just point out how evil Russia is therefore trump must be too? But let's be honest, for every Russian serial killer how many citizens of the world died as a direct result of U.S. Policy? I hate to be put into the position of making the United States sound like the bad guy of the world but things aren't quite as black and white as "Russia allows serial killers" Putin must be stopped. That's just kind of preposterous.



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: N9neXkrayzie

Granted pedophilia is a very serious crime but how about such a person chopping there victim into pieces and getting away with it because they were related to a political official?

Anyone the US political system having such a problem in the last 50 years? No

Anyone in Russia? yes.

Putin is trying to restore what????



Litvinenko claimed Putin was the 'Kremlin paedophile' in blog post months before his death after Russian president was pictured kissing stomach of a young boy


www.dailymail.co.uk...






I guess for the same reasons one would do something like this?
i.imgs.fyi...



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 01:06 AM
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It seems EVERYONE is either sex offender, pedophile, racist and now a "Russian connection"....four things that even if a person can disprove instantly labels them and basically ruins them in some way. As to Trump, he was never alone and it is officially stated he never said anything even close the narrative stated.

The big point here is....well he is the President, as many seem to insist he is not, and being the President he can declassify just about anything he wants anytime he wants. In this situation...so what, he is well in his prerogative to do just that...end of story... if he did it then it is well within his powers to do so. Something like the Secretary of State does not have, Mrs Clinton... as example...



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 01:06 AM
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a reply to: N9neXkrayzie



Who was worse, Hitler or Stalin?

In the second half of the twentieth century, Americans were taught to see both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union as the greatest of evils. Hitler was worse, because his regime propagated the unprecedented horror of the Holocaust, the attempt to eradicate an entire people on racial grounds. Yet Stalin was also worse, because his regime killed far, far more people, tens of millions it was often claimed, in the endless wastes of the Gulag. For decades, and even today, this confidence about the difference between the two regimes—quality versus quantity—has set the ground rules for the politics of memory. Even historians of the Holocaust generally take for granted that Stalin killed more people than Hitler, thus placing themselves under greater pressure to stress the special character of the Holocaust, since this is what made the Nazi regime worse than the Stalinist one.


www.nybooks.com...



At its height, the British Empire was the largest to have ever existed. Aside from covering most of the globe, it was responsible for some of the greatest advances in engineering, art, and medicine that the world will ever know. The Empire gave us steam engines, penicillin, radar, and even television.

However, life under the British wasn’t all just incredible inventions. Alongside the good stuff the Empire did sat a whole ream of not-so-good stuff, and alongside that a whole load of other stuff so evil it’d make Dick Dastardly balk.


listverse.com...

Could you perhaps elaborate?



posted on May, 16 2017 @ 01:08 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero


How would you like to be on the short list of those who had something to do with that operation in fact?


Tell you what you could be correct, so what (sarcasm)!


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