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Trump “revealed more information to Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies”

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posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: PepeTalk

Hillary is irrelevant. Has been since election day.

You should focus on who is relevant. Mogul AKA Donal Trump. All Clinton issues are a diversion from the real story: Donald Trump's complete and total ineptitude to maintain the most powerful seat in American government.




posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: TheScale


Yes to a country that if you had 5 daughters at least 1 of them could end up having an abortion due to rape.



oh geeze we just went over this. there is no correlation between sharing intel and abortion rates. go back to your thread and reread it unless u want to keep digging yourself a hole and putting your integrity at stake.

heres a link incase u get lost on your way back to your thread Link to your thread Kashai
edit on 15-5-2017 by TheScale because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: PepeTalk

I did some research on that. They were wrong about the grid being hacked. It was a Vermont Utility co laptop that was not on the grid. Guess the Russian hackers were practicing.


But, back to the current events and current president.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Yeah unproven. We all know how this ends. Where the Intel he wasn't supposed to and says he didn't reveal is all over the news and the internet by the end of the week.

Remember last week? When the official statement was that Comey was fired because of a recommendation by deputy AG Rosenstein? And then the next day it was trump thinking about the fake "Rusher" news.
Remember when trump said what Hillary did made her unfit to be president because of some e mails? E mails that were never in the hands of anyone who wasn't supposed to have them?

What was trumps intent hmmm? To flipping brag that he gets good Intel. To be his usual show off childish mine is bigger than yours self. Jesus H Christ. How much is it going to take? How much slack to we cut this clown?



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:30 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Spicer's denial is enough for me to trust anonymous sources.

Anyone with clearance and half a conscious about what is best for our country and our intelligence assets abroad would have no problem leaking this to the press. Leaks work both ways in DC.

You were a soldier, too. What does your gut tell you?



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:32 PM
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Trump openly threatened Comey on Twitter just 3 days ago.

I wonder why he's so worried about the former Director having tapes of their conversations.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: PepeTalk

Hillary is irrelevant. Has been since election day.

You should focus on who is relevant. Mogul AKA Donal Trump. All Clinton issues are a diversion from the real story: Donald Trump's complete and total ineptitude to maintain the most powerful seat in American government.


I would disagree since this entire Russia tantrum is a response to Democrats inability to handle losing. I'll repost the question minus the first sentence, which was only their to point out hypocrisy. The concept of hypocrisy seems to go way over all your heads anyway.

Here try again

All I'm asking for is one piece of verifiable evidence.Tell me what exactly Russia hacking our election even means. John Podesta gave his password away in a a phisihing scam and the DNC refused to hand their servers over to the FBI or any other government agency. What exactly do I know the Russians hacked and what did it effect?



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: PepeTalk

originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense

originally posted by: PepeTalk

originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense

originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: D8Tee

True. One one hand, we have the POTUS supposedly sharing info with an ally to help in the war on terror and discussing the latest schemes/plots ISIS would use against the west.


First error: Russia isn't an ally



Correction:

The MSM and the establishment doesn't want Russia to be an ally.


The sun is bright. Russia isn't an ally. Certain things are facts at the moment. No sensible person wants an ally that tampers with their democratic processes. Only a coward and a sell out would want that.


We know for a fact Obama tapped Merkels phone and spied on Le Pen in France. I guess we can't be allies anymore


The Germans and our other partners have every reason to be circumspect when dealing with us now that that's been disclosed. There have been real repercussions. However, there is a difference between passive intelligence and active manipulation to subvert their government. I suggest you learn the difference.


You where all able to ignore mountains of verifiable evidence and Russian dealings with Hillary Clinton. All I'm asking for is one piece of verifiable evidence.Tell me what exactly Russia hacking our election even means. John Podesta gave his password away in a a phisihing scam and the DNC refused to hand their servers over to the FBI or any other government agency. What exactly do I know the Russians hacked and what did it effect?


Don't group people, if you want to legitimately see where Hillary is suspicious as all hell take a look at her dealings with HSBC and how it intersected with her decisions when operating as Secretary of State. I have no love for the woman and in fact the more I see of what happened with Saudi Arabia makes me spit fire.

The Russian ordeal is much more substantial in the sense that we can track the flow of traffic across the internet, determine where data originates from, and then play it back like a recorded telephone call. Our ability to trace specific lines of data allows us to figure out points of origin. None of this is going to appear in the report because it discloses too much about where we place our SIGAD equipment.

This isn't just corroborated with one system either, but across numerous electronic intelligence gathering apparatuses. That's how we know definitively that Russian intelligence was involved. Get a degree in electrical engineering and sign up for a job with one of the IC firms if you want real proof of our capabilities. Otherwise you are never going to be satisfied because frankly you don't need to understand how it all works.
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posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
Trump openly threatened Comey on Twitter just 3 days ago.

I wonder why he's so worried about the former Director having tapes of their conversations.


not sure how u came to that conclusion but its about 180 degrees off. trump asserted that comey better hope their conversations werent recorded cause it would prove trump was told he wasnt under investigation from comeys own words. white house recordings are nothing new and most of that place is mic'd up and starts recording anytime it picks up people talking.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: Gin

No. The gymnastic is on the other side.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: network dude

Spicer's denial is enough for me to trust anonymous sources.

Anyone with clearance and half a conscious about what is best for our country and our intelligence assets abroad would have no problem leaking this to the press. Leaks work both ways in DC.

You were a soldier, too. What does your gut tell you?


Trust a general who has devoted his life the the service?
I'm asking because even though you are a rabid anti-Trumper, you do have some sense. But I think you are letting your hate seep into your critical thinking. If you are basing this off your "gut".

We need facts. So far, the facts point to yet another hit piece. Which as I said earlier, reeks of the boy who cried wolf, over, and over.

If you have more than just your gut, I'm more than willing to hear you out. And I'll be the first to apologize to you if this turns out like you claim. I'm just sick of the leaks and backstabbing that will eventually get people killed. (and it will be folks like you and I were, not the leakers)



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: TheScale

Thats why two US Senators suggested that if tapes exist they will probably be subpoenaed. Because those tapes probably do exist. And what's on them could potentially clear or damn the new President.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense

originally posted by: PepeTalk

originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense

originally posted by: PepeTalk

originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense

originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: D8Tee

True. One one hand, we have the POTUS supposedly sharing info with an ally to help in the war on terror and discussing the latest schemes/plots ISIS would use against the west.


First error: Russia isn't an ally



Correction:

The MSM and the establishment doesn't want Russia to be an ally.


The sun is bright. Russia isn't an ally. Certain things are facts at the moment. No sensible person wants an ally that tampers with their democratic processes. Only a coward and a sell out would want that.


We know for a fact Obama tapped Merkels phone and spied on Le Pen in France. I guess we can't be allies anymore


The Germans and our other partners have every reason to be circumspect when dealing with us now that that's been disclosed. There have been real repercussions. However, there is a difference between passive intelligence and active manipulation to subvert their government. I suggest you learn the difference.


You where all able to ignore mountains of verifiable evidence and Russian dealings with Hillary Clinton. All I'm asking for is one piece of verifiable evidence.Tell me what exactly Russia hacking our election even means. John Podesta gave his password away in a a phisihing scam and the DNC refused to hand their servers over to the FBI or any other government agency. What exactly do I know the Russians hacked and what did it effect?


Don't group people, if you want to legitimately see where Hillary is suspicious as all hell take a look at her dealings with HSBC and how it intersected with her decisions when operating as Secretary of State. I have no love for the woman and in fact the more I see of what happened with Saudi Arabia makes me spit fire.

The Russian ordeal is much more substantial in the sense that we can track the flow of traffic across the internet, determine where data originates from, and then play it back like a recorded telephone call. Our ability to trace specific lines of data allows us to figure out points of origin. None of this is going to appear in the report because it discloses too much about where we place our SIGAD equipment.

This isn't just corroborated with one system either, but across numerous electronic intelligence gathering apparatuses. That's how we know definitively that Russian intelligence was involved. Get a degree in electrical engineering and sign up for a job with one of the IC firms if you want real proof of our capabilities. Otherwise you are never going to be satisfied because frankly you don't need to understand how all of it works.


So no proof. I'll just take your word for it. Still doesn't tell me what you're claiming they hacked that effected the election.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: [post=22235135]TheScale[/post


But there is a correlation between sharing intelligence with a country that treats women that Russians do and ending up in the same situation as a result.

Its called history so in case you get lost might I suggest you do some research into the dark ages as in no plumbing, despite the hanging gardens.

Perhaps you should actually read things and not extrapolate form rote memory as that does not seem to be working out for you.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: AnonyMason

Exactly the reason IMO Trump made that tweet. I'm not alone in this either.

If you've been paying attention, you will notice this pattern.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: face23785

No I'm not. But you continue to believe the fake news .



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: face23785

No I'm not. But you continue to believe the fake news .


Where is the proof that Russia hacked the election then. Please provide.

Also, if I could make a suggestion. If you are going to respond in short to posters, would you please quote them so folks can keep up with the discussion?



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: alphabetaone

Telephone, telegraph, tell America...
We used to say things like Loose Lips Shink Ships..
Now we say what mine is yours.



posted on May, 15 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
Trump openly threatened Comey on Twitter just 3 days ago.

I wonder why he's so worried about the former Director having tapes of their conversations.


I don't think that was the case at all. He did it IN THE OPEN, so there could be no spinning of what he said.
And I think he did it so Comey would be sure he was accurate with what he said, just in case Trump has recordings of their conversations.

Remember, he did this in full world view. He wasn't hiding a damn thing.



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