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Pope Francis in Fatima compares the saved Church to the Manchild of Revelation

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posted on May, 24 2017 @ 06:56 PM
The man child the dragon tried to devour was Jesus when he was born and king Herod ordered every first born child to be killed, satan was than defeated and was cast down when Yeshau was crucified and defeated death and ascended into the fathers right hand. A little busy right now but who has satan used to persecute Christians who didn't follow the rules but instead followed the word?
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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 10:27 AM
a reply to: WarriorOfLight96

why wasn't Jesus raptured to heaven as baby then?

Why should John write about past events 100 years later?

And if so, why should we consider the other things in the Revelation as future events and not as past events, including the antichrist?

There is no logic whatsoever to identify the manchild with Jesus except for his spiritual image that we all participate in it. "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession" 1 Peter 2:9. "for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." Galatians 3:27. Unfortunately, it was easier during the centuries church fathers to interpret in that way. No danger for their "kingdom of God" on earth either...
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posted on May, 25 2017 @ 11:25 AM
The remnants of the body of Christ is the bride that will flee into the forest and will be persecuted by satan and is as we speak but there will come a time when satan will become far more wicked and we can see it happening now. When you see the abomination of desolation and that's when you flee and run and the the father will hide and protect you from the tribulations that is to come but we know it will be cut short.

When tribulation has ended you will know because their will be an earthquake like no one has ever seen or felt and that's when the lord comes to take us away, we won't see gods wrath but everything will be revealed that great day of the lord and everyone one will be raised up to witness the lord, even the ones that pierced him.

Then the faithful both alive and dead will be caught up and the remnants of the evil will remain and they will see gods wrath.

a reply to: 2012newstart

posted on May, 25 2017 @ 08:42 PM

originally posted by: 2012newstart
"But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession" 1 Peter 2:9.

Acts 15:14-17 (NW):

14 Symʹe·on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.+ 15 And with this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written: 16 ‘After these things I will return and raise up again the tent of David that is fallen down; I will rebuild its ruins and restore it, 17 so that the men who remain may earnestly seek Jehovah, together with people of all the nations, people who are called by my name, says Jehovah, who is doing these things,+ 18 known from of old.’+

1st + (reference)

1 Peter 2:9, 10
9 But you are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies” of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 For you were once not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not been shown mercy, but now you have received mercy.

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Amos 9:11, 12
11 ‘In that day I will raise up the booth of David that is fallen, I will repair the breaches, And I will restore its ruins; I will rebuild it as in the days of long ago, 12 So that they may take possession of what is remaining of Eʹdom, And all the nations on whom my name has been called,’ declares Jehovah, who is doing this.

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Isaiah 45:21
21 Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity. Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me.

Isaiah chapter 45 (a message from Jehovah to all mankind):

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posted on May, 26 2017 @ 11:45 AM
a reply to: WarriorOfLight96

the timing of the rapture is questionable among the different denominations. Or is it one only rapture or more. While catholics generally do not accept the idea of a rapture, now pope Francis makes a big U-turn with his latest homily in Fatima. Because to compare the faithful to the manchild, who is to be raptured once born (spiritually), is to acknowledge that the faithful who are worthy to be gathered in the image of the manchild, are to be raptured too. Obviously, before the flee of the woman in the desert. Not every christian will be raptured. Not every christian will flee to the desert either. There are those who will fight the dragon "the rest of her offspring" Rev 12:17. There are those who will be martyred. Those who will not be martyred but somehow will win over his number and will be worthy to stand on the sea of glass mingled with fire...late rapture?

posted on May, 26 2017 @ 01:52 PM
I will go on further to say, that all those blessed of God who will participate in the image of the Manchild, will have a special role to rule in justice (rod of iron) entire world (s) may be entire planets. it is easy to calculate that 1/3 of all stars following Satan, once they are liberated, will have the option to convert and to be ruled by godly leaders appointed by God's powers, archangels, saints. That's why St Paul says, we will be judging angels. It is indeed far fetched for the poor sinful humans such a responsible future function. But having in mind all Plan of Salvation of God, with Incarnation of His Son exactly as human on Earth, it comes more clear that we humans on earth have a special mission exactly because of that. And because of that some ET like us and expect us, while others hate us and serve satan's purpose to destroy us as a God's chosen planetary nation and race.

We have to start thinking in those terms, of beyond-earth christianity and mission that Jesus mandated to us "go to the ends of the world (cosmos in Greek)" The word world has been translated differently in times and nations. Thus, the old Slavic translation is literally Universe.

If Columbus never thought of terms to go beyond the then known world, probably he would never discover America. He was deeply religious man, although with two wives (that's why he wasn't canonized after his death), and he believed he was doing God's work by discovering new lands for Christ.

The paradigms of yesterday, even taboos, should not stop the christians, the catholics, from wide interpretation the latest pope's words, combining them with others said here and there. Now is the time to talk. Tomorrow will be the time for action.

posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 01:58 PM
a reply to: 2012newstart

The timing was revealed by Yeshau in Mathew 24, the Catholics or any other denominations don't teach from revelations, at least since I have been to church and I know a few preachers that have not even read revelations because they believe they will raptured out and is a very dangerous game for them to play.

They set them selves up for heart break and anger and will be easy for them to deny Yeshau, As we speak the sign is already in the heavens and is ready to give birth this September and I believe its for the Jews, if they didn't accept Yeshau the last time, who do you think they are waiting for now?

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