a reply to: JerryMH
Very interesting, thanks for your view!
The Manchild, although he could be one person, is more likely to be the combined image of the 144,000 (or more). As the woman could be Virgin Mary but
also could be Israel, the Church, and so on. Pope Francis compared all of the devote people to the Manchild and to John the beloved disciple of Jesus,
in his homily on May 13 in Fatima, the start of the 100th anniversary. I donb't know if all people qualify but certainly the 144,000 youths of
Revelation 7 and 14 qualify.
The rapture of the manchild could therefore be the rapture of the believers, or a selected number of them.
If the manchild is also a person, my thoughts go to the unknown possible descendants of Jesus, or those of gHis closest relatives as St jude. Because
it is apparent the manchild cannot be Jesus himself, and the story of Revelation 12 cannot fit into Bethlehem story of his birth.
Let go farther. The Manchild is taken up to God and His throne to be anointed. Then he rules all nations. Where is the throne of God? Certainly not on
this planet, but also not on some clouds. If there is a throne, there is a ground, there is a palace, walls, and there is a planet where all that
stands, or it flies on a giant spaceship.
Where will the manchild rule the nations with a rod of iron? The earth nations? It is complicated because the earth just prepares for the arrival of
the beast. In chapter 11 the two witnesses warned the earth, and in chapter 12 the manchild is raptured. So it doesn't fit, unless a large period of
peace is granted to earth between the rapture and the casting down satan. The duration of the War in heaven/universe. That is a possibility and I
already spoke of it. However, we do not know whether the time on earth flows with the same speed as the time in the universe (here it could be 3 years
and there it could be 3 thousand years).
I'd rather invent the hypothesis that the manchild and the 144,000 will have off-planet mission. They are the firstfruits of God and the Lamb. They
may go to other planets to preach salvation and resurrection.
Where are those planets who never heard of the Resurrection? If we read Revelation 12 we notice a ratio between those stars who follow God's army of
archangel Michael, and those stars who follow Satan's army, or 2:1. (it is not about falling meteorites, come on!) How many trillions of stars we know
today? Only Milky way galaxy has some 400 billion known stars and the number increases with every next estimation. Andromeda galaxy has some 1
trillion stars,believed to be similar to Mikly way (both were estimated to be with 100 bln stars before). So it is very possible Mikly way to have
also 1 trillion stars. With 100 billion counted galaxies that vary in size, Milky way being an average galaxy not the biggest one, we may conclude of
quite significant number of stars, planets, and also civilizations living on them. 1/3 of them who follow satan is a big number, although not bigger
than 2/3 of them.
Once defeated militarily, those stars (with their planets) won't be destroyed as in Star Wars movie. They will be offered conversion from their wrong
ways, to accept salvation of God. Sure many will convert. Here comes the rule of the Manchild (and the 144,000) with a rod of iron. WHy the need of a
rod of iron if the people are already converted. On earth to rule with rod of iron before the antichrist? It is possible but to me more likely seems
the galactic picture.
The Revelation is very hard to glimpse from Earth perspective only. Some analysts introduced two timelines: earhly and heavenly. Well today we can
freely speak of a galactic timeline, a perspective from other planets. We know enough science, and have enough faith in the omnipotent God, to admit
that fact without fear for our faith or fear of evil aliens who eat humans...In fact humans are destined to rule them, as the image of the manchild
shows it. It may be all of us who are faithful to God to be appointed for that mission on different levels. It is not needed all of us to be the
manchild or the 144,000 but all of us could participate in that noble mission.
For the duration of the war in heaven/universe, after which satan/dragon/draconians are cast down to earth and starts the Great Trib.
When? Nobody knows. Because if we know it, we can calculate the Second Coming of Jesus , and that is not known by Jesus himself nor the angels /ET.
How then it is given to us to calculate it?
Back to your view, will the manchild be declared "antichrist" by some? Perhaps so. Perhaps there will be attempts to tempt the 144,000 before their
selection, therefore the need for God to protect them Himself. Either by removing them from earth (if they are the manchild and raptured) or by
protecting them here on earth if their mission is here on earth. Dragon is waiting, he is not permitted to harm them (or to tempt them) right now. He
awaits their anointing first. We know he is the loser though.
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