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Europe should have never discarded its Christian identity

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posted on May, 14 2017 @ 06:07 AM
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Had Europe stayed Christian its society would have remained united.

Its culture would not have collapsed.

And it wouldn't be facing large scale third world mass immigration.

If only

But Europeans had to discard Christianity and traditional family values (which went a long way to help build European civilization)

They had to embrace secularism, atheism and liberalism

They had to vote globalist leaders who don't have Europeans interests at heart

This raises the question: are Europeans even aware of their situation??

Are they really welcoming hordes of foreigners into their countries knowing fully well what it implies with regards to European demographics?? Are they not worried about the
survival of Europeans as a distinct people with a distinct culture???

OR

Can this phenomena be explained by more sinister forces at work?


Are European governments being blackmailed by the Illuminati/NWO/TPTB into accepting mass immigration and forced multiculturalism?


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posted on May, 14 2017 @ 06:24 AM
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Europe was pushed into Christianity by force as you know. Europe was very happy as pagans.

Truth is no one was forced to reject Christianity. People just don't believe in magical men in the sky anymore. Thank rational thinking for that.

I can tell you have never been to Europe otherwise you wouldn't have said family values and culture have gone.

Anyway, thanks for the uneducated, uninformed and in fact hilarious post.

I do like a chuckle in the morning.



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 06:29 AM
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a reply to: firefromabove

One thing to consider, in the states we always talk about a separation of church and state. But what I see with a lot of the political groups that are on the rise in this country such as socialist progressives and social conservatives are pretty much religions unto themselves now.

I was watching that A&E series on Scientology and it struck me how similar their followers are to a lot of the people who get swept up in the fervor of these political parties. And we seem to just keep pushing to more and more extremes.

I truly believe that the only thing that can save this country is a shift toward pragmatic centrism. It's fine to have your whacked out idealists raising awareness on issues that can get overlooked at times, but when it becomes the mainstream then you are basically living in a time when the church controlled all aspects of your life.


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posted on May, 14 2017 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Nexttimemaybe



People just don't believe in magical men in the sky anymore. Thank rational thinking for that.


"Rational" thinking in Europe today: "let's have hordes of third worlders come in and enrich us. Doesn't matter if native Europeans become minorities in their own countries"

Lol



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 06:34 AM
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posted on May, 14 2017 @ 06:49 AM
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a reply to: firefromabove

It's one dogma vs another. It's the dogmatism that you are craving, what difference does it make if it's Islam or Christian?
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posted on May, 14 2017 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: firefromabove

Its just part of the EU plan.

Synarchism.

Rule by stealth by a hidden elite who will eventually get to control every tiny facet of peoples lives. Its fascistic by nature and it failed when they tried by force but, since 1946 its continued by stealth by a small group who smile and lie to get what they want.

I'm surprised that the concept of Synarchism isn't discussed more widely on ATS but I guess that shows how well the stealth programming works.



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:02 AM
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a reply to: firefromabove

For centuries, European monarchs ruled with absolute power because they were "authorized" by God Himself. The will of the people was irrelevant. Even this pretense was thin because the Pope, the head of the Holy Roman Church and, thus, God's spokesperson on Earth, had only so much sway over kings and princes. Europe was wracked with wars for centuries, despite Christianity's claim to be "the religion of peace." Traditionalists romanticize history in order to justify their political beliefs. They are political beliefs, not spiritual ones. Who said "render unto Caesar?"



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:04 AM
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a reply to: Tulpa



Rule by stealth by a hidden elite who will eventually get to control every tiny facet of peoples lives. Its fascistic by nature


So fascism exists today?
I guess WW2 was a waste of lives and time



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:07 AM
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originally posted by: firefromabove
a reply to: Tulpa



Rule by stealth by a hidden elite who will eventually get to control every tiny facet of peoples lives. Its fascistic by nature


So fascism exists today?
I guess WW2 was a waste of lives and time



Some people resent "no littering" laws.



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:08 AM
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originally posted by: firefromabove
Had Europe stayed Christian its society would have remained united.

Its culture would not have collapsed.

And it wouldn't be facing large scale third world mass immigration.

If only

But Europeans had to discard Christianity and traditional family values (which went a long way to help build European civilization)

They had to embrace secularism, atheism and liberalism

They had to vote globalist leaders who don't have Europeans interests at heart

This raises the question: are Europeans even aware of their situation??

Are they really welcoming hordes of foreigners into their countries knowing fully well what it implies with regards to European demographics?? Are they not worried about the
survival of Europeans as a distinct people with a distinct culture???

OR

Can this phenomena be explained by more sinister forces at work?


Are European governments being blackmailed by the Illuminati/NWO/TPTB into accepting mass immigration and forced multiculturalism?

United? Under the lies of religion? No thanks. I see no difference between christianity and islam. I wouldn't want to be associated with either one honestly. Luckily, the majority of the world no longer believes in the old dogma anymore. Your kind are on the way out. Islam has always been about 800 years behind christianity.



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:10 AM
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I think it's going to take a new dark age of global Islamic extremism before people finally do away with religion all together.

Hopefully the world doesn't get nuked along the way.



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:11 AM
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originally posted by: firefromabove
a reply to: Tulpa



Rule by stealth by a hidden elite who will eventually get to control every tiny facet of peoples lives. Its fascistic by nature


So fascism exists today?
I guess WW2 was a waste of lives and time

Im pretty sure fascism never left. All wars are a waste of time, lives, and resources.



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

Have it your way then

Let all Europeans become euphoric as atheists

But then don't complain about mass immigration.



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
Europe was pushed into Christianity by force as you know. Europe was very happy as pagans.

Truth is no one was forced to reject Christianity. People just don't believe in magical men in the sky anymore. Thank rational thinking for that.

I can tell you have never been to Europe otherwise you wouldn't have said family values and culture have gone.

Anyway, thanks for the uneducated, uninformed and in fact hilarious post.

I do like a chuckle in the morning.


All I have to say is - "Damn!"



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: firefromabove

When are you saying Europe was christian, under the papacy
Europe was always divided



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:33 AM
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originally posted by: Tulpa
a reply to: firefromabove

Its just part of the EU plan.

Synarchism.

Rule by stealth by a hidden elite who will eventually get to control every tiny facet of peoples lives. Its fascistic by nature and it failed when they tried by force but, since 1946 its continued by stealth by a small group who smile and lie to get what they want.

I'm surprised that the concept of Synarchism isn't discussed more widely on ATS but I guess that shows how well the stealth programming works.


But if people started to awaken to Synarchism, it would no longer be unknown. Then we could call it for what it is, oligarchy.

Wiki

Rule by a secret elite Some conspiracy theorists use the word synarchy to describe a shadow government, a form of government where political power effectively rests with a secret elite, in contrast to an "oligarchy" where the elite is or could be known by the public.[5]


and wow religion is taking a beating here. It is interesting that we have had organized religion for quite a while now and here we are with today's society. Maybe it is not that the result of today's social structure is from the absence of religion but where religion directly led us. Maybe it is time for a new method?



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: firefromabove

Not necessarily today but that's the way its heading.

A unified European continent governed by a tiny central elite. Once that part of the plan has been completed they'll move on to phase two.

As I said, its really surprising to me that the concept of synarchy isn't more widely discussed here but its always the same...

"I like the puppet on the left"

"I like the puppet on the right"

No one looks up to see who is controlling the puppet strings.



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:45 AM
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Something just occurred to me...

I think I know why the US is letting so many undocumented Muslims into the country.

With the insurgence of Muslims into Europe and Asia, Muslims taking over a country is a given, even taking over the whole continent.

If they take over the country which has nukes or even ICBMs, they would see the US as an infidel state without enough Muslims in it.

We may have to put up with beheadings and "emergency" rapes to keep our country safe from a first attack.

IDK.
edit on 14-5-2017 by NightFlight because: you know, drugs and all...


Thanks to Watchitburn.
edit on 14-5-2017 by NightFlight because: Why can't you go back and link to a quote in edit? Sorry watchitburn...



posted on May, 14 2017 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

The labels can change but I think we're talking about the same end result.




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