It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Have you ever experienced God?

page: 6
29
<< 3  4  5    7  8  9 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:32 PM
link   
a reply to: Perfectenemy

I was not likening basketball unto God. But rather the basketball court unto reality. Reality has laws and structure outside of the ones we create... If an alien found earth and we were all dead or gone. It would be able to tell that there had been intelligent life on Earth because it would see the things we built, and recognize our monuments as Purposeful. Is it not the same with reality?
edit on 13-5-2017 by LucidWarrior because: (no reason given)




posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:32 PM
link   

originally posted by: Gargoyle91
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Bottom line Humans feel abandoned.


How can you feel abandoned if there is no tangible proof that god exists? You need to make a personal connection first before you can feel abandoned.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:32 PM
link   

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: mericks74
Well I'm back to my assertion that this place is, really 72 different people with 100s of multiple accounts and random text generators...


I'm about 72 different personalities, but I leave that for facebook lol







posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:38 PM
link   
a reply to: Perfectenemy

I'm not religious but the felling is real I'm not the arrogant type to say I know what it is follow me , It's just there. It's an impossibility that's there's "Nothing" holding our energy together .
edit on 5/13/2017 by Gargoyle91 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:40 PM
link   

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: ReligiousQuestionDude

He told me that I am God's son in spirit.

Which I am still refusing to believe today.




If your into or believe the Law of One stuff, essentially everyone and everything is "one" and goes back to the source eventually. Everyone is a son or "spark" of the source.

I have had 1 mystical experience but never a conversation that I can remember.
edit on 13-5-2017 by iTruthSeeker because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:42 PM
link   
a reply to: LucidWarrior

Okay i get where you coming from but what if the religion and god you believe in is the wrong one? How do you convince yourself that you're on the right track so to speak. I for one believe in nothing and granted i live in my personal hell but i don't think believeing in a invisible entity or religion would have made any difference at all. I'm pretty humble and helpful an di don't need a book to tell me what is right and what is wrong. I'm an 80s kid and religon was still a thing in german schools and my teacher was pretty hardcore. She told us homosexuality was a sin and all that other bs. After hearing and reading about that even as teenager i knew the bible was full of make believe stories and i quit listening to her drivel. Since then a lot has changed i know but the fact still remains that every holy book can be rewritten on a whim if it collides with the progress of the human race. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of a religion? If god exists it would be pretty pissed don't you think?

Edit: Okay forget what i wrote i thought you were a true believer.


edit on 13-5-2017 by Perfectenemy because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:46 PM
link   
Alright. I've gone through the entire topic, and every post. Here is a summary of all your responses using your personal experiences:

- God is female
- God is male
- God is omnipotent
- God saves you from hell
- God saves individual's lives (sometimes more than once)
- God removes doubt
- God's son-in-spirit is in this topic and is directly responding to comments
- God is DEFINITELY male
- God answers prayers if they are aimed towards other people
- God does not make mistakes
- God can get things wrong
- God is an explosion of love and unity inside one's self
- God comes during sleep paralysis
- God comes in visions
- God is a Shapeshifter
- God is infinite
- God is all genders and non-genders at once
- God made and encompasses nature
- God is genderless
- God is tough
- God (only?) loves you when you are dying
- God is DEFINITELY female
- God leaves clues across your life
- Our existence is a clue that god exists
- God saves individuals from accidents
- God is above sexuality
- You need to experience god's presents to know that god exists
- God is absolute communion including gender

Alright people, let's take a close look at this.

Nearly every person here who claimed to experience God's presents is absolutely certain that what they experienced is God.

Many of those people have conflicting definitions of what God does and doesn't do, and what God is (gender specifically, but also form)

So, if you believe that to know god, you need to experience god, and your experience is infallible, then you're dismissing others' experience of god, and discrediting what they said about god.

So, that means that even subjective experience is fallible, which means that your own experience isn't credible.

Furthermore, I present to you another issue. What if the devil (or any other malicious anti god of whatever you believe) is the one that actually visited you? What if they are just tricking you to actually worship them instead? So far you've just assumed it was your God that you may have already believed existed, and this is some sort of confirmation for you. But based on what? A feeling? You'd think that a master deceiver with powers could achieve such a simple feat.

Would a god not allow that? Well apparently god goes out of the way to help individuals. Yet there are still accidents that happen, still poverty and starvation and so forth. Why would you be the special one?

It all comes off as a bit arrogant (in some cases) or easily manipulated.

Is it not possible that you could really just be deceived?



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:47 PM
link   
a reply to: dfnj2015

So, believing a deity is beyond what a human can comprehend is "small minded"? Not where I went to school, but ok.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:54 PM
link   
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Well I don't look at any one religion and say 'this is god the only good heathens be damned" any more than I say Nikes are the one true shoe.

I believe in a Creator so I look for evidence of Truth and wisdom and try to follow these as best as I can. And well there is truth and wisdom in everything, even if it only comes when you leave.

As for how you convince yourself your in the right track, well. That's a matter of what my heart tells me. And in that, I am a true believer because I haven't found any concrete, permanent thing, ohysical or otherwise.

You bring up the Bible yeah there is a lot of BS and garbage in there. Which really makes it all the more amazing that there is deep truth to be found in it as well. Like diamond stuffed s***



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:57 PM
link   

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

Sorry but that analogy is not correct in my book. Basketball is not praised as the ultimate sport and people don't go around to convert you with any means they deem necessary. God is always linked to a religion too. I need a little bit more then that.


It's an adventure.

When I started looking into the past, I used to wonder about the incredible lengths the Ancients went to, in their culture, in their societies.Structures like the Great Pyramid, The Sphinx and other marvels testify to a rich history that is hard to ignore.It made me wonder, where they found the inspiration to go to such great lengths to leave something behind.

My curiosity grew, when I wondered about what lay behind religion and spirituality.Religion as practicing a belief system, and spirituality as the experience.In the old days, to investigate all these cultures and what's recorded about them appears to have been a colossal undertaking, fraught with perils, and inconvenience.Today, with the net and access to everything at our fingertips, I don't think it's a stretch to imagine the romance of the whole thing still beckons for those who look.

People take ideas on faith, but the divine appears different to each one of us.

Looking into religions from around the world, and different ages makes it easier to see the underlying principles.Being able to access and make practical use of that knowledge is a great tool for personal growth...



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:58 PM
link   
a reply to: Ghost147

Yes it is possible and I tremble in my boots.

I cannot say anything about whether god in my experience is actually the devil or not except to say I trust and believe my heart, Biut the only thing I can. Do.

However your first question has an easy answer. The fact that God cannot be contained in our minds is not a proof of his nonexistence. God, if he exists like I believe and "know" is above any conception of him I could have..

Because he IS unity. He IS in between the gap of all our disagreements uniting the space between waiting for us to see



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:00 PM
link   
a reply to: dffrntkndfnml

Yes exactly, the underlying principles! There is always more, a deeper connection or truth or meaning. Especially especially when we cannot see them



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:00 PM
link   
-
edit on 13-5-2017 by mericks74 because: Couldn't find the picture



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:01 PM
link   
a reply to: Ghost147

I don't believe in the existence of god and i just could have been writing about an alien army. I'm just not sure what it was that i saw because a f#cking mental barrier keeps me from disclosing anything. I'm literally incapable of describing in full detail what i experienced. It's pretty frustrating but it is what it is.

I want to kill god and not worship it. I also pondered the idea what would happen if god and the devil are one and the same entity. I just don't get why people choose to believe in god or blame god for a tragedy. My father died a few years ago and i said f#ck you to god mutilple times hell i still do but that doesn't mean i believe in god. I could say f#ck you to a cloud and nothing would change for me. It's just to express my anger and rage because his death caused a lot of misery for my family.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:03 PM
link   
a reply to: LilithImmaculate2



Originally posted by LilithImmaculate2
I have experienced God. I felt her omnipotent power. When you feel her, you feel her omnipotent love. When you feel God, you truly feel how infinite the universe is. It takes all my fears away. God is a female to me.


We experience God all the time, because we are always in God.

What you’re describing though sounds like a specific event, where you connected to Gods Spirit…the Bible refers to it, as becoming “born again”…

I’ve experienced this directly myself while I was reading the Bible one night (John 14:20 to be exact) when it hit me lol so to speak…

I experience rivers of living water, just like Jesus describes in John 7:38…When it happened, it was as though someone had just placed a water fountain inside my chest…which then spread out to every other part of my entire body…

And just like yourself, I also felt a connection to the infiniteness of the entire Universe, and the oneness between every single atom running through my entire body…It was an overpowering and overwhelming experience, that is not comparable with anything…

Sometime leading up to this event, I heard Gods voice too, which funnily enough sounded strong and gentle at the same time. Imagine combining a Mans voice, with a Woman's voice; well, that’s exactly what it sounded like. And when I heard it, I could also feel it inside myself, and in every part of my being…



Originally posted by LilithImmaculate2
Did it make you change your view on the universe? It showed me how infinite the universe is. It's a little scary since you feel you are saved from hell only by the grace of God's intelligence and power.


The experienced I described above tends to go hand in hand with an inner search for Gods truth…Also the spirit will teach you truth over time. This can happen in bursts, or it can happen slowly over many years.

The Father is the one true teacher and will teach you all things…or whatever questions you are searching for. There are no limits, as far as I’m aware. God gives to those what they need, when they need it. It’s all in Gods timing…


- JC



edit on 13-5-2017 by Joecroft because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:07 PM
link   
a reply to: LucidWarrior

I tried to find the picture of the Nikes with all the suction cups on them but I couldn't. Hey don't knock it..



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:10 PM
link   
a reply to: Perfectenemy

I'm just not sure what it was that i saw because a f#cking mental barrier keeps me from disclosing anything. I'm literally incapable of describing in full detail what i experienced. It's pretty frustrating but it is what it is

That barrier is what keeps us from our souls and God. In order to 'escape' hardcore truths must be internalized, not just spoken or read



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:12 PM
link   
a reply to: LucidWarrior

Sometime's you are not meant to share thing's until the right time, when that time comes if you are then you shall but until then it may confound you as you try to define the undefinable.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:13 PM
link   

originally posted by: LucidWarrior
a reply to: Ghost147

Yes it is possible and I tremble in my boots.

I cannot say anything about whether god in my experience is actually the devil or not


That's a perfect outlook to your situation, and honestly, I'm relieved that you feel this way. Not relieved that you're fearful, mind you, just that you have at least some form of skepticism.


originally posted by: LucidWarrior
However your first question has an easy answer. The fact that God cannot be contained in our minds is not a proof of his nonexistence. God, if he exists like I believe and "know" is above any conception of him I could have.


Just to clarify, I'm not trying to provide 'evidence of nonexistence'. I'm just saying, we have here a perfect example of how bias and subjectivity leads to contradiction and belief regardless of those contradictions coupled a lack of self awareness.

'Your experience can't be real because mine must be real'

(I'm not saying you're personally saying that, but the general mentality throughout this thread is subtly underlined with it)


originally posted by: LucidWarrior
Because he IS unity. He IS in between the gap of all our disagreements uniting the space between waiting for us to see


Again, this is individualistic. It seems pointless to help individuals, or to show individuals, instead of a global reveal or prevention



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:13 PM
link   

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: Ghost147

I just don't get why people choose to believe in god or blame god for a tragedy.




Oh well that's just human nature (the blaming God for a tragedy bit..)
edit on 13-5-2017 by mericks74 because: (no reason given)



new topics

top topics



 
29
<< 3  4  5    7  8  9 >>

log in

join