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Is our presence in Afghanistan related to the amount of heroin killing our youth??

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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 08:24 AM
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Afghanistan opium poppy cultivation, 1994–2016 (hectares)


In July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the United Nations to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns. The Taliban enforced a ban on poppy farming via threats, forced eradication, and public punishment of transgressors. The result was a 99% reduction in the area of opium poppy farming in Taliban-controlled areas, roughly three quarters of the world's supply of heroin at the time.[16] The ban was effective only briefly due to the deposition of the Taliban in 2002.

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There is no war on drugs, there is a war FOR drugs...



It is well-documented that the U.S. government has – at least at some times in some parts of the world – protected drug operations.
Big American banks also launder money for drug cartels. Indeed, drug dealers kept the banking system afloat during the depths of the 2008 financial crisis. And the U.S. drug money laundering is continuing to this day.


Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production

Top U.S. Government Officials Admit that Our Government Has Repeatedly Protected Drug Smugglers




posted on May, 13 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod
Heroin is so passe..everybody dying from Fentanyl now, that is brought to us courtesy of China.
I'm not even kidding about the # of people dying, 3 or 4 a day here in the Vancouver area, going on a couple of years now.


Fentanyl. That's your culprit. It's way too easy for drug traffickers to get a hold of Chinese produced fentanyl and carfentanil these days and it only takes a few micrograms of that poison mixed into heroin to put you in a body bag. As someone already mentioned, it generally starts with prescription opioids progressing to heroin - much cheaper and more powerful - and one day an unsuspecting addict gets a bag laced with fentanyl and a funeral ensues. Very sad.

Side note: Recently, the NYT had a piece on the opioid/heroin epidemic in Ohio, where the county coroner for Dayton had received so many bodies from overdose deaths that the morgue and even local funeral homes couldn't take them, so they began holding bodies in refrigerated trucks.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: kloejen

Afghanistan opium poppy cultivation, 1994–2016 (hectares)


In July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the United Nations to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns. The Taliban enforced a ban on poppy farming via threats, forced eradication, and public punishment of transgressors. The result was a 99% reduction in the area of opium poppy farming in Taliban-controlled areas, roughly three quarters of the world's supply of heroin at the time.[16] The ban was effective only briefly due to the deposition of the Taliban in 2002.

source

There is no war on drugs, there is a war FOR drugs...



It is well-documented that the U.S. government has – at least at some times in some parts of the world – protected drug operations.
Big American banks also launder money for drug cartels. Indeed, drug dealers kept the banking system afloat during the depths of the 2008 financial crisis. And the U.S. drug money laundering is continuing to this day.


Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production

Top U.S. Government Officials Admit that Our Government Has Repeatedly Protected Drug Smugglers


Great post thanks for the info.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Dont blame current Afganistan involvement...Nothing new...its been happening for over 70 +years. We had famous people and everyday kids addicted to heroin.

Many 1920's and up jazz, rock and blues musicians and singers. Still....Clapton, Joplin, Holiday, Miles Davis, Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn...Cobain...the list is endless
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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 10:59 AM
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Afghanistan sits on one of the biggest lithium reserves on the planet.
Mainly mined by children. Chances are the lithium in your smartphone was mined by one of these poor souls.
Combine that with the CIA's cash cow heroine and you can see why America and the west is so interested in Afghanistan. When you see pictures of US troops guarding poppy fields it's pretty apparent the intent of our occupation.

I also suspect large sums of heroins are intentionally allowed to cross the border into Russia to continue the epidemic they are battling. I guess the plus side is it's America doing these screwed up things rather than ISIS.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: BeefNoMeat

Ya it has gotten completely out of hand, then you can factor in the ambulance service being constantly used to try and save overdose victims..the ambulance service here is already underfunded. People in car accidents and other non drug use issues are being made to wait unacceptable times, because the service is dealing with overdoses.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

I have a friend who is an emt and she is 70% of the time picking up old people falling down, drunks and ODs.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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I guess each region is affected differently. It seems like the more depressed areas are having it worse.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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Do you guys think this has anything to do with Chinese and Russian opium trade?



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Have you heard of Carfentinal?

Synthetic opiod 10,000 times more potent than morphine.

Wonder if these synthetics will do away with the need for opium poppy production.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: D8Tee

Yeah hasn't worked its way into this area yet.

This is another case for legalization IMO.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

What area? There's no way I can prove it, but if there is heroin in your area, there's fentanyl. Fentanyl isn't sold to users, it's "cut" into the heroin. There are sublingual fentanyl patches, but you're not going to your dealer and copping a bag of fentanyl. Same with it's equally deadly cousin, carfentanil.
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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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there are plenty of fentanyl related deaths in the area



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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Gotcha. Misread the comment. My bad


But I'd be surprised if the carfentanil isn't in Vancouver -- it's all from China and is easier to order online. You can have the USPS deliver it to your door -- unless they (DEA) put it on the derivatives CSA list. I know you could as late as 2016...crazy.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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Elephant sedative carfentanil detected on Vancouver streets for first time


Vancouver Police say they have detected the deadly opioid carfentanil for the first time in a Vancouver drug seizure.

Health Canada has confirmed the presence of carfentanil in drugs that were seized in the Downtown Eastside on Sept. 20. 2016.

Police confiscated several grams of what they believed to be heroin from a man in the north lane of Powell Steet and Heatley Avenue after reports that the man was carrying a firearm.

Carfentanil
Carfentanil resembles table salt but is 100 times more potent than fentanyl. (Canadian Border Services)

Carfentanil is 100 times more potent than fentanyl and is used to tranquillize elephants and other large animals. It can be fatal to humans in an amount of 20 micrograms, which is less than a grain of salt.

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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: D8Tee

Thanks for that. It's just too cheap and too 'good' for it to be off the streets in a metro area of a couple million or so that is as close to China as any city on the West Coast.

Sidebar: I watched a "Drugs Inc." show on NatGeo that followed some dope dealers that said the best piece of advesrtising is an overdose death from your (dealer) product. It means it's 'good'. That's truly sick.




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