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posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: JoshuaCox

I'd only sell Confederate flags as toilet paper, personally. I'm just saying if people want to sell hate, that's their business.

But liberals who don't like the flag are also able to protest the store if they want. It's 100% Constitutional.


What is the purpose of the protest?


Who cares? What does that have to do with the Constitutionality?




posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: RazorV66
Fortunately I live quite a ways away from the actual city of Detroit so I don't have to deal with that disaster on a daily basis.


Thank Cthulhu for small favors.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: JoshuaCox

I'd only sell Confederate flags as toilet paper, personally. I'm just saying if people want to sell hate, that's their business.

But liberals who don't like the flag are also able to protest the store if they want. It's 100% Constitutional.


What is the purpose of the protest?


Who cares? What does that have to do with the Constitutionality?


Quite a bit, actually.

Protest is a wonderful thing.

But is it still "protest" when the "protesters" are trying to infringe upon the rights of others?



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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I hope you all realize that I'm slowly becoming the official thread killer. So let me say this.
2000 years ago the worst people floating around for brutality and atrocities were the Romans. Now let me think????
What was their symbol that was carried in front of all the cohorts? Oh yes, it was an eagle. So what symbolizes America?
Oh yes, an eagle. So by you reckoning your eagle aught to be banned. Or better still, how far back in years do you want to quote to justify your hatred.
That ladies and gentlemen is known as sarcasm. So don't take it to heart and get on living your own life instead of trying to run others.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: RazorV66



Personally it's not as close to home for me as a pretty damn pro America , Mississippian who grew up knee deep in civil war history (Vicksburg)...



But as a history buff I absolutely understand why people would be Considering what a redskin is ...


A "red skin " was popularized as a term referring to an Indian scalp to be turned in for bounty..

So there would be like a $50 reward per Indian scalp .. and they way the sign would read was :

" A $50 bounty per redskin"

Referring to the scalp, not the Indian (Native American I guess..but I'm from MS sue me...)


We shouldn't be hiding the history of anything..

Those who forget their past..yada .. yada.. ya..

But should we be glorifying the monstrous parts.... that's another question completely..

I love military history.. everything from Alexander to present day..

And I have zero problem recognizing that Nathan Bedford forest was a brilliant commander , but prob a crap human being fighting for a crappy cause . In a war that got a lot of people killed because they got scared people were "coming to get their slaves..)



I just don't like the revisionist history stuff.

Call a spade a spade and move on.

Yada yada ya doomed to repeat it..



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
But is it still "protest" when the "protesters" are trying to infringe upon the rights of others?

Yes. It is still protest even if you don't like what they are protesting about. If you are SO concerned about these people's Constitutionality, where was your outrage over the rednecks who broke into the Wildlife Refuge and camped out there protesting government not letting them graze on government land anymore?



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

swastika is the actual word derived from sanskrit.

The word swastika has been in use in English since the 1870s, replacing gammadion (from Greek γαμμάδιον).[8] It was loaned from the Sanskrit term (Devanagari: स्वस्तिक), which is transliterated svastika under the commonly used IAST transliteration system, but is pronounced closer to "swastika" when letters are used with their English values, which is why the word is invariably so spelled in Roman script in India.

Swastika in Sanskrit means any lucky or auspicious object, and in particular a mark made on persons and things to denote auspiciousness, or any piece of luck or well-being. It is composed of su, meaning "good, well" and asti, the third person singular of the verbal root as, "to be", meaning "it (he, she) is". The phrase swasti therefore means "it/he/she is good". The two words spoken together become "swasti" through sandhi, a process by which sounds modify other sounds spoken close to them. The expression "swasti" is used as a word on its own, meaning good health or good fortune. The added suffix ka forms an abstract noun, and swastika might thus be translated literally as "that which is associated with well-being", corresponding to "thing that is auspicious" or "lucky charm"

Yes, it is a swastika.
Also, hey look, Brazilians enjoy the flag!



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

So I could protest/petition for your death, (an obvious infringement of your rights) and you'd be okay with that.

Interesting.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So I could protest/petition for your death, (an obvious infringement of your rights) and you'd be okay with that.

Interesting.


I'm pretty sure that falls under the "inciting violence" exception to protest and speech.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So I could protest/petition for your death, (an obvious infringement of your rights) and you'd be okay with that.

Interesting.



I think that's wrapped up in pre established laws where free speech don't count..

If you tell people to kill some one , your an accessory to murder..



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So I could protest/petition for your death, (an obvious infringement of your rights) and you'd be okay with that.

Interesting.


I'm pretty sure that falls under the "inciting violence" exception to protest and speech.


It's obviously infringing on your rights.

Something I would never endorse.


Nor would I endorse anyone trying to infringe on the rights of anyone else.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So I could protest/petition for your death, (an obvious infringement of your rights) and you'd be okay with that.

Interesting.



I think that's wrapped up in pre established laws where free speech don't count..

If you tell people to kill some one , your an accessory to murder..


If you tell people not to express themselves or to conduct business in a way you don't like, are you an accessory to censorship?



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So I could protest/petition for your death, (an obvious infringement of your rights) and you'd be okay with that.

Interesting.


I'm pretty sure that falls under the "inciting violence" exception to protest and speech.


It's obviously infringing on your rights.

Something I would never endorse.


Nor would I endorse anyone trying to infringe on the rights of anyone else.

Doesn't matter. Your example was already illegal, so your point remains unsupported. If you or someone else publicly protested my death, I'd call the cops and have them arrested for inciting violence because you aren't allowed to do that. This says nothing to the Constitutionality of people protesting the merchandise in a privately owned business though.
edit on 12-5-2017 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

If your able to communicate the difference then your prob not catching much crap... definitely not from people as they know you..

The thing is the entire reason for the confederate flags existence and resurgence are ALL based on the push back after segregation.. all the monuments and schools named are from post 1967..

You couldn't do that right after you had just killed 10's of thousands in a failed rebellion.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So I could protest/petition for your death, (an obvious infringement of your rights) and you'd be okay with that.

Interesting.



I think that's wrapped up in pre established laws where free speech don't count..

If you tell people to kill some one , your an accessory to murder..


If you tell people not to express themselves or to conduct business in a way you don't like, are you an accessory to censorship?


We also don't allow pornagraphy on children's channels..



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So I could protest/petition for your death, (an obvious infringement of your rights) and you'd be okay with that.

Interesting.



I think that's wrapped up in pre established laws where free speech don't count..

If you tell people to kill some one , your an accessory to murder..


If you tell people not to express themselves or to conduct business in a way you don't like, are you an accessory to censorship?


No, you can use your words all you like to say you don't like what someone is doing. If you use physical means to try to stop someone from doing something you don't like, you're most likely breaking a law.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Swastika being a symbol of good luck, Karma just was not going to allow the NAZI's to succeed. Then again, mine looks like this:

So people can clearly see what it is. I think if we all pretend to be Brazilian, we can get away with enjoying our flag without grief



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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No one is going to post the initial altercation?
Here is what started it all.

Personally I think this lady is a POS!
And a professional victim.
Just look at how she turns on the "I'm a woman and you are scaring me" BS after she kicked a hornets nest a few times. She didn't look to scared when she was in the store raising hell.
She initially harassed a store owner about a rug and when they got sick of her SJW'ing they fired back. The B**** comment may have been a bit much even though she fit the bill. But she was 100% the instigator. This self righteous liberal needs to learn the world isn't her oppression Olympics playground.
The thing that always cracks me up is these SJW lunatics film themself acting a fool and post it online. Then wonder when the internet trolls them en-mass.
Because you are an IDIOT mama!
I feel sorry for her children.
ETA: I hope she is ready to be the new meme of the month...
edit on 12-5-2017 by JAY1980 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: DBCowboy

Comparing a symbol of pure oppression and slavery to the rainbow pride flag? A symbol of nothing but inclusiveness...
Stopped reading after that to be honest.


According to 4chan's latest batch of "things you never knew were secretly offensive" the rainbow pride flag is in fact divisive, not inclusive.

Why, you may ask?

It's the stripes. If it were truly inclusive, all the colors would just be blended into one big brownish flag, rather than different colors separated by stripes.

See how easy that was?



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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This strikes me as a desperately sad attempt to remove all local flavor from communities. I guess in order for some to feel safe we all need to be bland, cookie cutter, one size fits all people. The only reason I can see for protesting, instead of just ignoring it, is for control.

If someone tried to muscle me in our business, I'd ask them to leave. As long as they didn't block the doors, they could protest out front all they want. I'm in a rural area life in our little country town is a bit different, joking around/killing with kindness is the rule of the day.

I'd set out drinks, snacks, chairs, music too if allowed. Snack loving townies/bored rural people looking for entertainment would swarm into our establishment. Relaxed conversation/visiting would ensue. We'd see we're not so different after all.

Those who want to be mean/nasty and butt hurt simply because they missed an opportunity to control would be seen for what they are. It probably would only work in small towns where people know/care about each other to begin with. That's why, imo, small town, village type communities are a much healthier way to live/coexist.

I'm dark Latina/Native American. I grew up with two southern families, all boys, one from Texas, the other from Mississippi. They were my family. Their sons treated me far better than my own brother, showed me how real brothers, boys/men should behave.

They were all things confederate flag, posters, bedspreads, t-shirts you name it yet despite the color of my skin they treated me with respect and god help anyone that didn't. I was their little sissy and I loved them. I can't tell you how many times they picked me up, dusted me off and gave me a pat/smile. I'm disgusted by such closed, mindedness because of a damn flag.

It's not about adornments, how shallow is that? What's in our hearts is what really matters. If I had closed my heart to those boys, the only example of manhood I'd have would've been my sorry ass brother. Another great example is my first true friend was a 4 year old gay boy. He was so sweet and gentle not like my brother at all. From those diverse examples I realized there are many choices waiting for me in the world and my brother was an aberration. I married a white, blue eyed, Serb who feels the same way, calls me his little coconut and I like it a lot.

I don't like this brave new world one bit, that's why we fled here in the first place. I grew up in one of the most diverse crime ridden places in the nation, Gary, IN, I've experienced many flavors. As long as no one gets hurt all that diversity can enhance our lives in ways the closed minded will never see. They will protest/legislate against all diversity not inline with their beliefs, labeling it destructive and having no value. They couldn't be more wrong.

Sorry for the long rant.




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