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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: RazorV66
Yeah Hitler loved socialism and communism so much that he killed the socialists and communists.
He killed the Marxists. There's a difference. Socialism dictates that a central government has fascist control over the elements of production, land, housing, etc and doles out the profits to the workers. Marxism is closer to anarchy, with no ruling central government existing outside of constant conflict to hold the position until the next uprising.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Deaf Alien
You're wrong. Socialism is not about working for yourself, it is about a central government holding ALL of the cards while dictating who does what, who does nothing, and how much each person gets. Essentially Nazi Germany's domestic model.
any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: starwarsisreal
That said, only the Right has actual Nazi's among their ranks.
BULLSNIP! The Nazi Party was founded as a liberal, leftist party. Hitler railed against capitalism, embraced socialism, championed a government system by which the government WAS the people and was massive, they nationalized their manufacturing sector, pushed HUGE social welfare programs funded by "division of profits," federally disarmed their people, ran huge deficits to pay for social programs, had laws that protected animals from abuse while embracing the dehumaization of people, to portray them as even Right leaning is a bastardization of history and a lie.
en.wikipedia.org...
Look at the 25 points and tell me these are conservative or right leaning for that era. The primary difference between the left and the positions of Nazi Germany is found in a shift from nationalism towards globalism. If you remove the nationalist propaganda from Hitler's platform and replace it with the modern left's "we are citizens of the globe" BS, you'd have a platform which could easily win a DNC nomination for POTUS in today's USA. Points 8 through 22 and Point 25 could have been directly cited by Bernie Sanders last election and nobody would have thought him to be in any way off kilter to his embraced positions.
The SOLE connection to Nazi Germany and modern conservative politics is found in the aspects of nationalism and national protectionism.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TheTory
Remember when the American Nazi Party endorsed Obama over McCain? Pepridge farms remembers.
Seriously though, Nazism is used as a cudgel with which smear our opponents.
Remember when the KKK and white supremacists endorsed Trump?
Our society is shockingly degenerate and corrupt. It is in a downward spiral. Obama is the most visible example.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: TheTory
Either Pepridge Farms' memory is slipping, someone forgot to tell ANP or one of the two statements was less than honest.
ANP linky
Our society is shockingly degenerate and corrupt. It is in a downward spiral. Obama is the most visible example.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Deaf Alien
You're wrong. Socialism is not about working for yourself, it is about a central government holding ALL of the cards while dictating who does what, who does nothing, and how much each person gets. Essentially Nazi Germany's domestic model.