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This Comey Article Illustrates the Insanity of The Left At This Point in Time

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posted on May, 11 2017 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Dfairlite

If Trump thought Comey had enough evidence against Clinton to convict her, he could have indicted her four months ago. He did not. Why not? Witnesses claim that Comey asked for more resources for the Russia investigation two weeks ago, and now he has been fired with no preamble. Coincidence?

Trump governs by confusion. Whenever an issue comes to the fore, he does something irrational to distract from it. Now the issue is whether a President can fire the head of the FBI arbitrarily. Yes, arbitrarily. Trump praised Comey's handling of the Clinton affair back in October, and he has presented no evidence of a decline in morale at the FBI. The firing was completely arbitrary, hence, controversial. And now no-one notices we are sending more troops to Afghanistan.


When a person serves at the pleasure of the President they can be fired for whatever reason the President chooses. I am sure he will leave it to left wing nut jobs to make up their own version of why he did it. I am sure he has got better things to do than be concerned with hyper-ventilating morons.




posted on May, 11 2017 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

The Dims have yet to Show President Trump Committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors which would be their Only Hope of Ousting him from Office . It's a Textbook Example of Collective Insanity when the Dims in Unison say they want to Impeach the President once They Decide what Actual Crimes he has Allegedly Committed .How Much Long Do the American People have to Tolerate this Ridiculous Behavior ?
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posted on May, 11 2017 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Dfairlite

The Dims have yet to Show President Trump Committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors which would be their Only Hope of Ousting him from Office . It's a Textbook Example of Collective Insanity when the Dims in Unison say they want to Impeach the President once They Decide what Actual Crimes he has Allegedly Committed .How Much Long Do the American People have to Tolerate this Ridiculous Behavior ?

I donno, man. Maybe you outta wait until the testimony comes out before you bet all your cred on the Cheeto Messiah.
Oh...this just in...FBI searching Annapolis GOP fundraising firm



posted on May, 11 2017 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

That investigation involves 2013 governors race.

That PAC endorsed Cruz not Trump.



posted on May, 11 2017 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
That investigation involves 2013 governors race.
That PAC endorsed Cruz not Trump.

I've read suggestions of connections with Paul Manafort. It would not be the first instance of PACs changing horses in the middle of a race.
Pass the popcorn, will ya?



posted on May, 11 2017 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Dfairlite

If Trump thought Comey had enough evidence against Clinton to convict her, he could have indicted her four months ago. He did not. Why not? Witnesses claim that Comey asked for more resources for the Russia investigation two weeks ago, and now he has been fired with no preamble. Coincidence?

Trump governs by confusion. Whenever an issue comes to the fore, he does something irrational to distract from it. Now the issue is whether a President can fire the head of the FBI arbitrarily. Yes, arbitrarily. Trump praised Comey's handling of the Clinton affair back in October, and he has presented no evidence of a decline in morale at the FBI. The firing was completely arbitrary, hence, controversial. And now no-one notices we are sending more troops to Afghanistan.


This is nonsense - in his own first statement he said there was enough evidence and she did break the law. He just refused to recommend prosecution. Comey himself gave his opinion she was guilty. To anyone who understood what he was saying he basically admitted her guilt than said, well even so we will not prosecute. He in effect admitted he was protecting her.

McCabe admitted in testimony today, there is no truth to money being requested for the investigation, that it does not work that way. So no there is no coincidence because that never happened, it is just a BS fake news story that Trump Haters grasped onto as gospel.

Trump does sometimes use distraction for political gain - any good politician does. There is no question - The president can fire the FBI director arbitrarily - Guess what Comey said so himself!

I keep hearing this crap - Trump praised Comey in October - Yes but why - because he reopened the investigation on Hillary which should have never been closed. But Trump as anyone else who wanted Hillary indicted of course was not happy with Comey when he again closed the investigation a week later. This is not hard to understand.



posted on May, 11 2017 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: proximo

Yes the fake news about the request for money was obvious. You don't go to the president for money and resources, you go to Congress. Then there was the fake news that rosenstein threatened to resign. Of course there will be no corrections, they won't remove the articles that claimed that.

I wonder what it's like to bite on every fake news story the MSM propagates only to find out later that you were lied to.

If MSM says anonymous sources, it's probably fake news.



posted on May, 11 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Leonidas

Our country, obviously. What does that have to do with the OP? You're making as much sense as this author.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 12:10 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: rickymouse


The far left wants everyone to hate Russia


The far left is in the employ of Russia, as is the far left. Russia is using America's political extremes to erode the foundations of its democracy. This is what gave us President Trump, who does not even attempt to pretend that his actions are constitutional.

What has Trump done that was against the Consitution?


He has accepted money from foreign sources without reporting it. This is emolument, and is an impeachable offense. That's just for starters.


Then Obama committed the same for selling a book world wide.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite


Yes indeed. There's a building consensus that Democrats will not be a majority in this country again, until their ultra-liberal wing learns common-sense. I wonder when that will happen?



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 06:16 AM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: rickymouse


The far left wants everyone to hate Russia


The far left is in the employ of Russia, as is the far left. Russia is using America's political extremes to erode the foundations of its democracy. This is what gave us President Trump, who does not even attempt to pretend that his actions are constitutional.

What has Trump done that was against the Consitution?


He has accepted money from foreign sources without reporting it. This is emolument, and is an impeachable offense. That's just for starters.


Then Obama committed the same for selling a book world wide.


The money went through the publishers, so that he cannot connect any particular income stream with a specific foreign purchaser. That is clearly not the case with Trump and his real estate deals.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Dfairlite


Yes indeed. There's a building consensus that Democrats will not be a majority in this country again, until their ultra-liberal wing learns common-sense. I wonder when that will happen?


There you go with that "consensus" thing. Remember when the consensus was that Clinton would sweep the Electoral College?



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite


Yes the fake news about the request for money was obvious. You don't go to the president for money and resources, you go to Congress.


The story does not say "money," it says "resources," so yes, you go to the Justice Department.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 06:27 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: rickymouse


The far left wants everyone to hate Russia


The far left is in the employ of Russia, as is the far left. Russia is using America's political extremes to erode the foundations of its democracy. This is what gave us President Trump, who does not even attempt to pretend that his actions are constitutional.

What has Trump done that was against the Consitution?


He has accepted money from foreign sources without reporting it. This is emolument, and is an impeachable offense. That's just for starters.


Then Obama committed the same for selling a book world wide.


The money went through the publishers, so that he cannot connect any particular income stream with a specific foreign purchaser. That is clearly not the case with Trump and his real estate deals.


How would the emoluments clause apply to Trump's life prior to becoming President?
If you have some evidence that he is being paid by foreign govts. now then best to share it.
You guys are still desperately clutching at straws...
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posted on May, 12 2017 @ 06:39 AM
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a reply to: proximo


McCabe admitted in testimony today, there is no truth to money being requested for the investigation, that it does not work that way. So no there is no coincidence because that never happened, it is just a BS fake news story that Trump Haters grasped onto as gospel.


Nope. Here is the relevant transcript, emphasis mine:


MCCABE: I can tell you that I hold Director Comey in the absolute highest regard. I have the highest respect for his considerable abilities and his integrity and it has been the greatest privilege and honor in my professional life to work with him. I can tell you also that Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does until this day.


Note this contradicts the White House's claims. [Edit for brevity.]


HEINRICH: Thank you for your candor. Do you feel like you have the adequate resources for the existing investigations that the -- that the bureau is invested in right now to -- to follow them wherever they may lead?

MCCABE: Sir, if you're referring to the Russia investigation, I do. I believe we have the adequate resources to do it and I know that we have resourced that investigation adequately. If you're referring to the many constantly multiplying counter-intelligence threats that we face across the spectrum, they get bigger and more challenging every day and resources become an issue over time.

HEINRICH: Sure.

MCCABE: But in terms of that investigation, sir, I can -- I can assure you we are covered.


In other words, McCabe, not Comey, believes he has adequate resources for the Russia/Election probe, but that more resources will be needed for other probes in the future.


COLLINS: I want to follow up on a question of resources that Senator Heinrich asked your opinion on. Press reports yesterday indicated that Director Comey requested additional resources from the Justice Department for the bureau's ongoing investigation into Russian active measures. Are you aware that request? Can you confirm that that request was in fact made?

MCCABE: I cannot confirm that request was made. As you know ma'am, when we need resources, we make those requests here. So I -- I don't -- I'm not aware of that request and it's not consistent with my understanding of how we request additional resources.

That said, we don't typically request resources for an individual case. And as I mentioned, I strongly believe that the Russian investigation is adequately resourced.


Verbatim transcript; must be "fake."

In other words, McCabe is not in a position to know whether or not Comey made the request, nor whether the request was specifically for the election investigation or for counter-espionage in general. He also makes it clear that it is his opinion that the investigation is adequately resourced, not necessarily Comey's. But continue to use absence of evidence as evidence of absence if you must. Trump wraps himself in that fallacy like a security blanket.

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posted on May, 12 2017 @ 06:42 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth


How would the emoluments clause apply to Trump's life prior to becoming President?


He still owns hotels and casinos around the world. Arguably, just joining Mar A Lago might be intended as a $200.000 bribe!


If you have some evidence that he is being paid by foreign govts. now then best to share it.


Why is now the best time to share it? If I produced a scan of a receipt would you change your mind?
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posted on May, 12 2017 @ 07:34 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

No, you don't. You go to congress, resources = money. Whether that money is used on headcount or otherwise, more resources is more money. I love that you're trying to separate the two so that you can cling to fake news. Delusional.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: DJW001



In other words, McCabe is not in a position to know whether or not Comey made the request, nor whether the request was specifically for the election investigation or for counter-espionage in general.


But mccabe says that the process wouldn't include going to the DoJ, just going to congress, so it's reasonably certain that such a request was never made in the way that the fake news media wants to portray.




I cannot confirm that request was made. As you know ma'am, when we need resources, we make those requests here. So I -- I don't -- I'm not aware of that request and it's not consistent with my understanding of how we request additional resources.

That said, we don't typically request resources for an individual case. And as I mentioned, I strongly believe that the Russian investigation is adequately resourced.


That is a wholesale rebuttal of the fake news narrative that comey was fired for wanting to expand the russia probe by getting more resources from the DoJ. There's literally no part of that narrative that is true.
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posted on May, 12 2017 @ 07:47 AM
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He still owns hotels and casinos around the world. Arguably, just joining Mar A Lago might be intended as a $200.000 bribe!


And barack obama was still selling his book as president.

Your understanding of emoluments would have prevented Thomas Jefferson and James Madison from becoming president as they sold tobacco worldwide.



posted on May, 12 2017 @ 08:05 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: underwerks
All it takes to know Trump is guilty of something he doesn't want made public is simply watching his actions and words.

Now, whether that something is collusion with Russia or something else, who knows.

My advice is to let go of all the rhetoric you've been fed and stop looking at things through a MAGA lens. Trump became wealthy through hustling people, and to think he's being honest with you now when it really matters is the height of stupidity.

Or, believe the government when it tells you what you're supposed to think. Because that's always worked out so well before.


List the things Trump has done to date that warrant arrest. All you really need is one with some proof and we can get the impeachment underway and pave the way to remove him. But, if all you have are tears and what if's, you aren't going to impress anyone. It makes you look like just another crybaby. That isn't a good look.

I honestly get that lefties don't like him. But unless he breaks the law, he is and will be the president. Bring a candidate who isn't a criminal next time and perhaps you guys can do a bit better.

How would I have enough access to know what Trump is guilty of? I have no idea.

What I do have an idea about is how guilty and innocent people act, and combine that with Trump's life and business up to this point and it doesn't seem far off the mark.

You don't get to the top of the real estate game in NYC without being dirty. Above a certain level, everyone is dirty, and everyone knows each other is dirty.

If all of his skeletons were thrown out of the closet, Russian support would probably be the least of his worries.


Wow, you only continue to serve as an example of what this thread is about.

Attribute errors are ALL OVER THE PLACE.

You thinking on having a good idea in whether people are acting innocent and good is the result of Egocentric Bias. Don't use your own standards as judgement.

Next, the Fundamental Attribution Error is exciting in that you over estimate the influence in characteristics in a person behavior.

Its no surprise, you being a leftist and liberal, that kind of fallace is easily fallen for. I'm a communications major and you fell right into those definitions.



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