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Non-Biblical Conspiracies That Only Christians Believe in...

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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:12 PM
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Mainly through debating people on ATS , I have noticed there are some things , not really related to Christianity, that only Christians believe in...

I't makes me wonder what the psychology is behind it , and weather or not they realize that it is a "Christian conspiracy theory" rather than a more broadly based conspiracy.


So here are a few conspiracy theories that only seem to be perpetrated by Christians, that really don't have much to do with christianity..

Now I am not saying that all Christians believe these things, but that all the people who do, appear to be Christians..

So if I am wrong and you are not a Christian (or I guess a quasi Christian) then please reply and tell me why you believe in whichever ones.



Young Earth Creationists: there seem to be no secular or non Christian proponents of this.. and assuming it held some validity, you should have scientists and/or conspiracy theorists of all shapes and sizes that buy into it. The concept that the earth is 70000 years old and the scientific community is falsifying evidence to falsify the existence of dinosaurs or giants , shouldn't really be a Christian only conspiracy should it??

Flat earth: this is just stupifying but out of all the videos I have seen pushing this conspiracy, they have all had a Christian spin to them. In a vacuum this shouldn't be a Christian only conspiracy.. yet it seems to be..


Satanic Cults: I have also never met some one who is not a Christian who believes in satanic cults. Obviously people have crazy ideas about religion and people do stupid things in religions name, so why don't non Christians conspiracy people believe in this one too????

Illuminatti: the thought that there is a secret NWO who secretly controls the world and hides symbolism in all the media sources also doesn't seem like it would be a Christian only theory, but every video I watch some how ties it to the Bible.. I could be wrong about this being an only Christian conspiracy, but it definitely is a mainly Christian thought.

Elite Pedo Rings EVERYWHERE!! : this might be me reaching and I am more asking than anything else. Now I'm not referring to "has there ever been a pedo ring involving the rich and famous"... I'm talking about there being ones in basically every city, probably in communication with each other..

The MSM: The conspiracy theory that all the scientists, media, college professors, teachers unions, regular unions exc are all in a vast conspiracy to make republicans look bad..


The gay agenda, They want to turn your children gay: this one has fallen out of popularity lately, but for a long time there were a lot of Christians pushing the thought that there was a gay agenda, where there was a massive conspiracy to normalize homosexuality and then indoctrinate children to be gay, or to be used by pedophiles..

So are these Christian only conspiracies, and why?????




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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Satanic cults, illuminati, pedo rings, msm are not Christian conspiracies at all....

Reading it over again, only your young earth is a Christian conspiracy.

Where did you even come to these conclusions??
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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:25 PM
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I will bite. I am not a christian, I do though believe in a historical Christ. I follow more along the lines of Northeast woodland Native American beliefs. In a nutshell though,
Young earth creationists: Hogwash.
Flat earthers: Hogwash as well.
N.W.O.: Most likely.
Pedos: Maybe not to that extent but the high profile ones that are mostly ignored yes.
M.S.M.: Sorry that's the propaganda arm of the N.W.O. type organization. (I believe in self governance, I feel I should disclose this)
Gay agenda: Hogwash, but I question all the shot in the food and water and what it does to the human body.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Satanic cults, illuminati, pedo rings, msm are not Christian conspiracies at all....

Reading it over again, only your young earth is a Christian conspiracy.

Where did you even come to these conclusions??


Are you a Christian??

Do you believe in them??



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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originally posted by: Piggy315
I will bite. I am not a christian, I do though believe in a historical Christ. I follow more along the lines of Northeast woodland Native American beliefs. In a nutshell though,
Young earth creationists: Hogwash.
Flat earthers: Hogwash as well.
N.W.O.: Most likely.
Pedos: Maybe not to that extent but the high profile ones that are mostly ignored yes.
M.S.M.: Sorry that's the propaganda arm of the N.W.O. type organization. (I believe in self governance, I feel I should disclose this)
Gay agenda: Hogwash, but I question all the shot in the food and water and what it does to the human body.


I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a "historical Jesus"..

If you believe that Jesus was divine or had a channel to the divine (a prophet) then that would put you in the quasi-Christian box..

If you believe Jesus actually existed, but was just a philosopher then you would absolutely to a vote against my point.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Satanic cults, illuminati, pedo rings, msm are not Christian conspiracies at all....

Reading it over again, only your young earth is a Christian conspiracy.

Where did you even come to these conclusions??


None of these that you have mentioned is specifically only Christian.

Even a young Earth Creation, although it has a lot of Christian adherents, is not a specifically Christian idea. In fact, with the exception of Hinduism, very few few religions place their creations as occurring a million years ago or more.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Totally anecdotal evidence.. just in my travels, mainly on ats.. is not sure I ever met an atheist or some one who thought Christianity was hogwash to steal from the other poster..

Who also believes in these..

In large part because it is the same people on ats fighting both battles..

The same people segueing for the validity of the Bible , are usually the same people debating the things I mentioned..


I could be totally wrong and all the sudden there are a gaggle of atheist flat earthers spreading the word abou the illuminati pedo rings lol..

You all ways gotta leave room for you to be totally wrong about something..
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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Satanic cults, illuminati, pedo rings, msm are not Christian conspiracies at all....

Reading it over again, only your young earth is a Christian conspiracy.

Where did you even come to these conclusions??


None of these that you have mentioned is specifically only Christian.

Even a young Earth Creation, although it has a lot of Christian adherents, is not a specifically Christian idea. In fact, with the exception of Hinduism, very few few religions place their creations as occurring a million years ago or more.


Are you a Christian or quasi Christian ???

If not which ones do you believe??

A Christian saying :

"Other people believe in it too!!"

Isn't exactly rock solid...


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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I am not Christian or religious, and I believe in most of these conspiracies to some extent.

Except young earth. But even that, who knows.

I keep an open mind to everything.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Fair enough.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Mainly through debating people on ATS , I have noticed there are some things , not really related to Christianity, that only Christians believe in...

So are these Christian-only conspiracies, and why?????



You start off with an incorrect premise/assumption when you say that these are "Christian Only".

For instance... Devout Christians (generally) do not believe that God created any other intelligent life forms in the Universe. But so do many other religions...as well as non-religious people.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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Lol... "Christian only."

The Flat Earth and Young Earth theories, yes, they're predominantly Christian ideas. The rest? Not even close.

In regards to which I believe. The NWO? Without doubt. Satanic Cults? I am pretty sure that's established fact. They exist. Elite pedo rings? Eh, not too convinced one way or the other. The MSM? Been lying for decades.

Am I a Christian? I guess you could say I am in the sense that I believe in Jesus Christ, but not in the traditional sense. I am very unorthodox. Matter of fact, if I lived during the dark ages, I would have been burnt for "heresy" years ago.
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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Satanic cults, illuminati, pedo rings, msm are not Christian conspiracies at all....

Reading it over again, only your young earth is a Christian conspiracy.

Where did you even come to these conclusions??


I was wondering the same thing.
because...nah



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Satanic Cults: I have also never met some one who is not a Christian who believes in satanic cults. Obviously people have crazy ideas about religion and people do stupid things in religions name, so why don't non Christians conspiracy people believe in this one too????

I'm not a Christian, and I believe there are Satanic cults. There are all kinds of other cults, from legitimate to downright nonsensical, so why wouldn't there be Satanic cults? The belief in Satan certainly exists.


originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Elite Pedo Rings EVERYWHERE!! : this might be me reaching and I am more asking than anything else. Now I'm not referring to "has there ever been a pedo ring involving the rich and famous"... I'm talking about there being ones in basically every city, probably in communication with each other..

Why not? There are criminal gangs in every city who peddle drugs and prostitution and whatnot, so why can't you believe pedophiles have organized themselves as well? Just recently there was news about the owner of that pedophile website being sentenced to prison. I believe it said there were approximately 150,000 members of that site alone worldwide. Of course they come together and organize, just like with any other criminal enterprise.


originally posted by: JoshuaCox
The gay agenda, They want to turn your children gay: this one has fallen out of popularity lately, but for a long time there were a lot of Christians pushing the thought that there was a gay agenda, where there was a massive conspiracy to normalize homosexuality and then indoctrinate children to be gay, or to be used by pedophiles..

This is definitely NOT a Christian-only belief, and there is in fact a "gay agenda", just as there are "agendas" for everything else. In recent years there has been a huge push to normalize homosexuality and demonize anyone who speaks against it. Children in some places are now being bombarded with pro-homosexual teaching and propaganda.

Kids must be taught transgenderism, homosexuality starting in nursery school, UK teachers say

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/21/kids-must-be-taught-transgenderism-homosexuality-starting-in-nursery-school-uk-teachers-say.html]Source[/ url]
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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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I can affirmatively say most if not all occult and satanic crap is mathematical or inspiring in it's source of message and design at origin.

The idea any of it's evil is pure fiction in the first place. The rest has normal explanations.

Young Earth Creationists: Tax Scam.

Flat earth: Advertising Scam

Satanic Cults: Fiction. No one is apart of anything Satanic that isn't ultimately fiction based.

Illuminatti: Miscontrived message. The idea is their secret message's fame spreads faster with fabricated evil intent. The actual message is basically 'work together'.

Elite Pedo Rings EVERYWHERE!!: This one is sad, because there is real Human Trafficking issues, but the people connected are anything but 'elite'.

The MSM: I'd subscribe to the idea they only believe this because they're told. When they're told it's 'good again' they will follow suit anyway. Most conclusions MSM is bad is based on hypocrisy and confabulation, not lack of information. There certainly isn't Censorship occurring to say the least.
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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 11:03 PM
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You forgot "the rapture".

The word "rapture" is never mentioned in scripture. The "rapture doctrine" was invented in 1830 by a guy name John Darby.

There's some passages that speak about some people being taken up into the clouds, while others are left on Earth -- but if you read the entire thing in context, its clear its about people who die before Jesus is supposed to return during the "end times".

So, no -- you aren't going to say "bye bye" and be chosen to float up into the sky, leaving all those meanies behind like those terrible Krik Cameron movies show.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Satanic cults, illuminati, pedo rings, msm are not Christian conspiracies at all....

Reading it over again, only your young earth is a Christian conspiracy.

Where did you even come to these conclusions??


None of these that you have mentioned is specifically only Christian.

Even a young Earth Creation, although it has a lot of Christian adherents, is not a specifically Christian idea. In fact, with the exception of Hinduism, very few few religions place their creations as occurring a million years ago or more.


Are you a Christian or quasi Christian ???

If not which ones do you believe??

A Christian saying :

"Other people believe in it too!!"

Isn't exactly rock solid...



I personally am a fairly traditional born-again type Christian.

Consider that across the South Pacific, the Americas, the Middle East and Europe there are many faiths that maintain that the Earth was created within the time frame of their ancestors. That IS a young Earth creation belief and not Christian.

It would be ignorant of me to assume that a young Earth Creation is a purely Christian idea.

I personally believe in a Physics where time is not uniform but relates to gravitation (Einsteinian Relativity) and therefore the young Creation and the old big bang are actually simultaneously both correct but dependent upon the observational frame of reference.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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No offense JoshuaCox - Your questions are rather immature and ignorant



posted on May, 11 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but these aren't Christian only conspiracies. In fact, many non Christians, from other religions like Islam, to agnostics and atheists, also subscribe to a number of those theories. Hell, I know a few guys who are anti-Christian who believe all of the above (except flat and young earth) and believe all are part of Catholic and Christian conspiracies.

So its not unique to them. The only thing here is that a larger number of Christians subscribe to these theories, but they are by no means alone or unique.

And not all of them are really conspiracy theories. Pedo rings do exist, and so do Satanic cults. What Christians do is try and form links where none exist. The two exist independently of each other. Every pedo ring I have seen busted has involved either non religious, or highly religious clergy, like the Catholic church. Satanists are more interested in conducting public black masses to get hysterical reactions out of Christians.



posted on May, 11 2017 @ 12:54 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Piggy315
I will bite. I am not a christian, I do though believe in a historical Christ. I follow more along the lines of Northeast woodland Native American beliefs. In a nutshell though,
Young earth creationists: Hogwash.
Flat earthers: Hogwash as well.
N.W.O.: Most likely.
Pedos: Maybe not to that extent but the high profile ones that are mostly ignored yes.
M.S.M.: Sorry that's the propaganda arm of the N.W.O. type organization. (I believe in self governance, I feel I should disclose this)
Gay agenda: Hogwash, but I question all the shot in the food and water and what it does to the human body.


I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a "historical Jesus"..

If you believe that Jesus was divine or had a channel to the divine (a prophet) then that would put you in the quasi-Christian box..

If you believe Jesus actually existed, but was just a philosopher then you would absolutely to a vote against my point.




You really need to understand christianity before firing off any more silly statements Mr Cox.
You look silly



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