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Why were the early Gnostic texts included in the Dead Sea scrolls excluded from the New Testament? Those codices predate the New Testament writings by centuries.
Ok, so as the mainstream story goes.. at the council of nicea constintine gathered a bunch of pipes and they all say down and figured out which books would be included in the New Testament of the Bible..
So assuming no shinanigans , hypothetically they would have taken all the books everyone agreed on and excluded all the books that were questionable and maybe argued a little over the books some believed but some didn't believe were valid....
But it seems to me that if the romans compiled the most generally excepted books. Then shouldn't any library good enough to have copies of "the gospel of Tomas" and other hypothetically more obscure pieces, contain those as well????
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: madmac5150
Why were the early Gnostic texts included in the Dead Sea scrolls excluded from the New Testament? Those codices predate the New Testament writings by centuries.
Uhm... which gnostic texts would you be referring to?
Gnostic literature came from the first and early second and third century... and the gnostic writers were not fans of the OT
why would they be included in the dead sea scrolls which were all hebrew texts?
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
The Dead Sea scrolls were a library of Hebrew and later Christian texts that spanned hundreds of years BC to like 200ad(?)..
Most scholars conclude they only cover up to the period of the late Second Temple (70AD).
originally posted by: madmac5150
I hope those scrolls weren't on loan from the library... Imagine the late fees...
Now, for a serious answer to the question... you are asking the wrong question.
Why were the early Gnostic texts included in the Dead Sea scrolls excluded from the New Testament? Those codices predate the New Testament writings by centuries.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: madmac5150
Why were the early Gnostic texts included in the Dead Sea scrolls excluded from the New Testament? Those codices predate the New Testament writings by centuries.
Uhm... which gnostic texts would you be referring to?
Gnostic literature came from the first and early second and third century... and the gnostic writers were not fans of the OT
why would they be included in the dead sea scrolls which were all hebrew texts?
Because the poor lads confused
There were a number of books found in the Dead Sea Scrolls not in the authorised christian OT section of the bible. Jasher, Enoch, Jubilee and uhm Macabees, these were not included because they are more historical than "prophetical".
More about history than Jesus, as such. Readily available at most religious book shops, not hidden or missing
Anyway, the Dead Sea Scrolls were probably squirreled away long before Jesus birth, maybe after, no one is sure, maybe when Babylon invaded or Rome, assumedly when Jerualem was under threat and they wanted to protect the scriptures.
there is no New Testament information because when the Scrolls were put in the caves, there was no New Testament written yet.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
The Dead Sea scrolls were a library of Hebrew and later Christian texts that spanned hundreds of years BC to like 200ad(?)..
Most scholars conclude they only cover up to the period of the late Second Temple (70AD).
Does that effect the question??
The wiki page says this..
"In the larger sense, the Dead Sea Scrolls include manuscripts from additional Judaean Desert sites, which go back as far as the 8th century BCE to as late as the 11th century CE.[1]"
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: madmac5150
Why were the early Gnostic texts included in the Dead Sea scrolls excluded from the New Testament? Those codices predate the New Testament writings by centuries.
Uhm... which gnostic texts would you be referring to?
Gnostic literature came from the first and early second and third century... and the gnostic writers were not fans of the OT
why would they be included in the dead sea scrolls which were all hebrew texts?
Because the poor lads confused
There were a number of books found in the Dead Sea Scrolls not in the authorised christian OT section of the bible. Jasher, Enoch, Jubilee and uhm Macabees, these were not included because they are more historical than "prophetical".
More about history than Jesus, as such. Readily available at most religious book shops, not hidden or missing
Anyway, the Dead Sea Scrolls were probably squirreled away long before Jesus birth, maybe after, no one is sure, maybe when Babylon invaded or Rome, assumedly when Jerualem was under threat and they wanted to protect the scriptures.
there is no New Testament information because when the Scrolls were put in the caves, there was no New Testament written yet.
I thought the ded Sea scrolls included Jesus stories?
It says they were buried in 68 ad , which is very early for books absolutely is early for books to have been circulated.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: madmac5150
Why were the early Gnostic texts included in the Dead Sea scrolls excluded from the New Testament? Those codices predate the New Testament writings by centuries.
Uhm... which gnostic texts would you be referring to?
Gnostic literature came from the first and early second and third century... and the gnostic writers were not fans of the OT
why would they be included in the dead sea scrolls which were all hebrew texts?
originally posted by: mazzroth
Why isn't the Gospel of Thomas in the Bible ? he was a disciple of Jesus.