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President Trump Fires James Comey

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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
Yeap. As I saw as a reaction. All the hard core liberals, celebrities and democrat senators are thinking Trump should be investigated and impeached.....


I mean if Trump was trying to hide something and turned out to be true. I will even be shocked by it. But these people that are calling the president a traitor and corrupt need to take a chill pill and let the government sort itself out.

If Trump gets forcibly removed without some sort of due process or trial. There will be outrage for sure. You think triggered liberals are bad? You haven't seen ugly yet. Several constitutional patriotic groups are itching to have a reason to go to war.


If Trump WAS trying to hide something the very last thing he would do is make an enemy of the FBI Director investigating the bogus Russian claims.


That's just it. The Russians claims aren't bogus and a special prosecuter is being appointed as we speak and the WH is in chaos. This was a Bannon decision and it blew up in their faces. Now even more heads will roll but it won't stop the investigations, in fact only intensify them. Stupid, believe me.
edit on 10-5-2017 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)




posted on May, 10 2017 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
Yeap. As I saw as a reaction. All the hard core liberals, celebrities and democrat senators are thinking Trump should be investigated and impeached.....


I mean if Trump was trying to hide something and turned out to be true. I will even be shocked by it. But these people that are calling the president a traitor and corrupt need to take a chill pill and let the government sort itself out.

If Trump gets forcibly removed without some sort of due process or trial. There will be outrage for sure. You think triggered liberals are bad? You haven't seen ugly yet. Several constitutional patriotic groups are itching to have a reason to go to war.


If Trump WAS trying to hide something the very last thing he would do is make an enemy of the FBI Director investigating the bogus Russian claims.


That's just it. The Russians claims aren't bogus and a special prosecuter is being appointed as we speak and the WH is in chaos. This was a Bannon decision and it blew up in their faces.


Lol, get a grip. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR. That statute ran out in 1999. You are being fed lies in the media and by Democrats to whip up a drama. To appoint one now would require a change to the law, so I rather doubt one is being 'appointed as we speak'.

edit on 10/5/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

That would have been a distinct possibility, although, they would have gone about it more cleverly.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: EartOccupant
a reply to: Indigo5

Testify about what?


About "Something" ?

LOL




At any time during your campaign were you made aware of conversations between your staff and representatives of Russia regarding the hacking, leaks, propaganda campaign or other Russian interference during the 2016 campaign?

Why did it take you 18 days to fire Michael Flynn after learning from the Acting Attorney General and Intelligence Community that he was compromised? And why did that happen only after the fact he was compromised was leaked to the press?

Can you summarize any business dealings you have had with Russian Individuals or Entities over the past 5 years..Investments, loans or other deals?

Did you personally have any meetings or conversations with people or agents that could reasonably be assumed to have represented the Russian government or intelligence community during the 2016 campaign season?

Did you at anytime prior to being sworn in to office direct or authorize anyone in your circle of advisors and staff to meet or speak with Russian representatives on your behalf? Paul Manafort? Roger Stone? Erik Prince? Jared Kushner? Michael Cohen? Michael Flynn? Carter Page?

Hell..I could go on all day...


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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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Dont know if this was mentioned m but President Clinton fired then FBI director JEFF SESSIONS for fraudlant practices!

www.theguardian.com...

Interesting. I did not know that. So much for swamp draining! I support Trump, but it is getting real thin!



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
Dont know if this was mentioned m but President Clinton fired then FBI director JEFF SESSIONS for fraudlant practices!

www.theguardian.com...

Interesting. I did not know that. So much for swamp draining! I support Trump, but it is getting real thin!


Jeff Sessions was never FBI Director.
It was William Sessions that Clinton fired.
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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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Your'e correct..Special prosecuter was the wrong term. Now it's an investigator assigned by the GOP unconnected to the Oval office. The Republicans are getting nervous....



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Your'e correct..Special prosecuter was the wrong term. Now it's an investigator assigned by the GOP unconnected to the Oval office. The Republicans are getting nervous....


Senator Richard Burr (R) North Carolina and Head of the Senate Investigation into the Russian interference in 2016..

“I am troubled by the timing and reasoning of Director Comey’s termination.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Your'e correct..Special prosecuter was the wrong term. Now it's an investigator assigned by the GOP unconnected to the Oval office. The Republicans are getting nervous....


Incorrect still.
It is now a Special Counsel appointed by the Attorney General, or in this case as Sessions has recused himself, appointed by the Deputy AG.
The Special Counsel office is part of the Executive Branch.
What you are talking about is no longer possible without the Republicans agreeing to change the law and even then Trump can veto that law, requiring 2/3 of Congress to overrule him.
In the absence of even a tiny shred of evidence to support such a law change, this is never going to happen.
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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

William, Jeff, Same thing.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:07 AM
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Anyone claiming Trump fired Comey to protect himself is either completely ignorant of how government works or is lying. Comey was not single-handedly investigating the Trump/Russia allegations. There are dozens if not hundreds of people who would have to be silenced by the incoming Director in order for this to benefit Trump. All it would take is a single one of them to have a shred of integrity and report the supposed coverup to the IG or leak it to the press anonymously. And if you think none of the agents have any integrity to report such a thing, how would you have confidence they can conduct a thorough investigation into Trump in the first place?

A change of Director will not change the outcome of the FBI's investigation. This is without even taking into account that there are independent investigations being conducted by the House and Senate committees. Firing Comey will in no way protect Trump from the outcome of those investigations. So, those of you that lean left and are inclined to believe this false narrative, just be aware that Democrat officials who are pushing that narrative are blatantly lying to you. That's how stupid they think you are. Are you?



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: olaru12
Your'e correct..Special prosecuter was the wrong term. Now it's an investigator assigned by the GOP unconnected to the Oval office. The Republicans are getting nervous....


Senator Richard Burr (R) North Carolina and Head of the Senate Investigation into the Russian interference in 2016..

“I am troubled by the timing and reasoning of Director Comey’s termination.


So?

Here's Senator Grassley:

U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley welcomed the firing of FBI Director James Comey on Tuesday, arguing that the FBI has lost the public trust and backing up President Donald Trump amid a political firestorm. Grassley, a Republican from Iowa, said Comey’s performance as director “prompted concern from across the political spectrum and from career law enforcement experts.” “The handling of the (Hillary) Clinton email investigation is a clear example of how Comey's decisions have called into question the trust and political independence of the FBI,” Grassley said in a statement. “The effectiveness of the FBI depends upon the public trust and confidence. Unfortunately, this has clearly been lost.” As chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Grassley plays a key role in overseeing the Justice Department and the FBI. He has been critical of Comey for the past several weeks, repeatedly and sharply questioning his handling of an investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. “In my efforts to get answers, the FBI, under Comey's leadership, has been slow or failed to provide information that Comey himself pledged to provide,” Grassley said in his statement on Tuesday.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: face23785
Anyone claiming Trump fired Comey to protect himself is either completely ignorant of how government works or is lying. Comey was not single-handedly investigating the Trump/Russia allegations. There are dozens if not hundreds of people who would have to be silenced by the incoming Director in order for this to benefit Trump. All it would take is a single one of them to have a shred of integrity and report the supposed coverup to the IG or leak it to the press anonymously. And if you think none of the agents have any integrity to report such a thing, how would you have confidence they can conduct a thorough investigation into Trump in the first place?

A change of Director will not change the outcome of the FBI's investigation. This is without even taking into account that there are independent investigations being conducted by the House and Senate committees. Firing Comey will in no way protect Trump from the outcome of those investigations. So, those of you that lean left and are inclined to believe this false narrative, just be aware that Democrat officials who are pushing that narrative are blatantly lying to you. That's how stupid they think you are. Are you?


It's just another example of propaganda to try and breath some life into the dying Russian conspiracy theory of collusion. There are a lot of people with egg on their faces and they are desperate to wipe it off before we notice. Too late though.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: olaru12


AND THIS..


The fact that Trump chose to do this when Comey was in LA..
Not in person, not even by phone...But bizarrely by a letter in a manila envelope hand delivered by Trump goons (security guards from campaign) to FBI HQ in DC..When Comey was in LA..

Comey found out by seeing it on the news..

THAT afforded Trumps people 24 hours to rifle through Comey's office at HQ and figure out what he might have in the investigation...By the time Comey got back to DC Trumps folks had already been through his office, locked him out of his PC, pulled all his access etc.

It was done by design to give Comey no heads up and while he was out of town so they could swoop in without him securing anything about Trump from the Russia Investigation.


edit on 10-5-2017 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: olaru12


AND THIS..


The fact that Trump chose to do this when Comey was in LA..
Not in person, not even by phone...But bizarrely by a letter in a manila envelope hand delivered by Trump goons (security guards from campaign) to FBI HQ in DC..

Comey found out by seeing it on the news..

THAT afforded Trumps people 24 hours to rifle through Comey's office at HQ and figure out what he might have in the investigation...By the time Comey got back to DC Trumps folks had already been through his office, locked him out of his PC, pulled all his access etc.

It was done by design to give Comey no heads up and while he was out of town so they could swoop in without him securing anything about Trump from the Russia Investigation.



hahahaha!

Any evidence of "desk rifling" or are you just in a bit of a tizz because there is no evidence to support your wild conspiracy theories?



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:14 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
Yeap. As I saw as a reaction. All the hard core liberals, celebrities and democrat senators are thinking Trump should be investigated and impeached.....


I mean if Trump was trying to hide something and turned out to be true. I will even be shocked by it. But these people that are calling the president a traitor and corrupt need to take a chill pill and let the government sort itself out.

If Trump gets forcibly removed without some sort of due process or trial. There will be outrage for sure. You think triggered liberals are bad? You haven't seen ugly yet. Several constitutional patriotic groups are itching to have a reason to go to war.


If Trump WAS trying to hide something the very last thing he would do is make an enemy of the FBI Director investigating the bogus Russian claims.


That's just it. The Russians claims aren't bogus and a special prosecuter is being appointed as we speak and the WH is in chaos. This was a Bannon decision and it blew up in their faces. Now even more heads will roll but it won't stop the investigations, in fact only intensify them. Stupid, believe me.



So you believe that Bannon somehow wrote Rod Rosenstein's Memo about Comey? That he had other former Attorney Generals agree with?

Quote from the MEMO



My perspective on these issues is shared by former Attorneys General and Deputy Attorneys General from different eras and both political parties. Judge Laurence Silberman, who served as Deputy Attorneys General under President Ford, wrote that "it is not the bureau's responsibility to opine on whether a matter should be prosecuted." Silberman believes that the Director's "Performance was so inappropriate for an FBI director that [he] doubt[s] the bureau will ever completely recover." Jamie Gorelick, Deputy Attorney General under President George W. Bush, to opine that the Director had "chosen personally to restrike the balance between transparency and fairness, department from the department's traditions." They concluded that the Director violated his obligation to "preserve, protect and defend" the traditions of the Department and the FBI.



So Bannon convinced all those people?



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: olaru12


AND THIS..


The fact that Trump chose to do this when Comey was in LA..
Not in person, not even by phone...But bizarrely by a letter in a manila envelope hand delivered by Trump goons (security guards from campaign) to FBI HQ in DC..When Comey was in LA..

Comey found out by seeing it on the news..

THAT afforded Trumps people 24 hours to rifle through Comey's office at HQ and figure out what he might have in the investigation...By the time Comey got back to DC Trumps folks had already been through his office, locked him out of his PC, pulled all his access etc.

It was done by design to give Comey no heads up and while he was out of town so they could swoop in without him securing anything about Trump from the Russia Investigation.



It's beginning to sound like Watergate more and more. Now there will be another investigation. The GOP must be reeling at the incredible stupidity....I wonder which WH insider will be the one to rat out Trump...3 guesses.
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posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: olaru12


AND THIS..


The fact that Trump chose to do this when Comey was in LA..
Not in person, not even by phone...But bizarrely by a letter in a manila envelope hand delivered by Trump goons (security guards from campaign) to FBI HQ in DC..When Comey was in LA..

Comey found out by seeing it on the news..

THAT afforded Trumps people 24 hours to rifle through Comey's office at HQ and figure out what he might have in the investigation...By the time Comey got back to DC Trumps folks had already been through his office, locked him out of his PC, pulled all his access etc.

It was done by design to give Comey no heads up and while he was out of town so they could swoop in without him securing anything about Trump from the Russia Investigation.



It's beginning to sound like Watergate more and more. Now there will be another investigation. The GOP must be reeling at the incredible stupidity....I wonder which WH insider will be the one to rat out Trump...3 guesses.


It's fun to see people setting themselves up for ridicule.
Crack on.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: talisman

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
Yeap. As I saw as a reaction. All the hard core liberals, celebrities and democrat senators are thinking Trump should be investigated and impeached.....


I mean if Trump was trying to hide something and turned out to be true. I will even be shocked by it. But these people that are calling the president a traitor and corrupt need to take a chill pill and let the government sort itself out.

If Trump gets forcibly removed without some sort of due process or trial. There will be outrage for sure. You think triggered liberals are bad? You haven't seen ugly yet. Several constitutional patriotic groups are itching to have a reason to go to war.


If Trump WAS trying to hide something the very last thing he would do is make an enemy of the FBI Director investigating the bogus Russian claims.


That's just it. The Russians claims aren't bogus and a special prosecuter is being appointed as we speak and the WH is in chaos. This was a Bannon decision and it blew up in their faces. Now even more heads will roll but it won't stop the investigations, in fact only intensify them. Stupid, believe me.



So you believe that Bannon somehow wrote Rod Rosenstein's Memo about Comey? That he had other former Attorney Generals agree with?

Quote from the MEMO



My perspective on these issues is shared by former Attorneys General and Deputy Attorneys General from different eras and both political parties. Judge Laurence Silberman, who served as Deputy Attorneys General under President Ford, wrote that "it is not the bureau's responsibility to opine on whether a matter should be prosecuted." Silberman believes that the Director's "Performance was so inappropriate for an FBI director that [he] doubt[s] the bureau will ever completely recover." Jamie Gorelick, Deputy Attorney General under President George W. Bush, to opine that the Director had "chosen personally to restrike the balance between transparency and fairness, department from the department's traditions." They concluded that the Director violated his obligation to "preserve, protect and defend" the traditions of the Department and the FBI.



So Bannon convinced all those people?


Reality : a non-partisan Deputy AG, also appointed by Obama to a position during his administration no less, steps into the job two weeks ago and gets testimony from several ex AG's and people within the FBI that says Comey is unfit to lead. Trump takes this non-partisans advice and fires Comey.

Liberal propaganda: Russia

That's about the sum of it.



posted on May, 10 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: talisman

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
Yeap. As I saw as a reaction. All the hard core liberals, celebrities and democrat senators are thinking Trump should be investigated and impeached.....


I mean if Trump was trying to hide something and turned out to be true. I will even be shocked by it. But these people that are calling the president a traitor and corrupt need to take a chill pill and let the government sort itself out.

If Trump gets forcibly removed without some sort of due process or trial. There will be outrage for sure. You think triggered liberals are bad? You haven't seen ugly yet. Several constitutional patriotic groups are itching to have a reason to go to war.


If Trump WAS trying to hide something the very last thing he would do is make an enemy of the FBI Director investigating the bogus Russian claims.


That's just it. The Russians claims aren't bogus and a special prosecuter is being appointed as we speak and the WH is in chaos. This was a Bannon decision and it blew up in their faces. Now even more heads will roll but it won't stop the investigations, in fact only intensify them. Stupid, believe me.



So you believe that Bannon somehow wrote Rod Rosenstein's Memo about Comey? That he had other former Attorney Generals agree with?

Quote from the MEMO



My perspective on these issues is shared by former Attorneys General and Deputy Attorneys General from different eras and both political parties. Judge Laurence Silberman, who served as Deputy Attorneys General under President Ford, wrote that "it is not the bureau's responsibility to opine on whether a matter should be prosecuted." Silberman believes that the Director's "Performance was so inappropriate for an FBI director that [he] doubt[s] the bureau will ever completely recover." Jamie Gorelick, Deputy Attorney General under President George W. Bush, to opine that the Director had "chosen personally to restrike the balance between transparency and fairness, department from the department's traditions." They concluded that the Director violated his obligation to "preserve, protect and defend" the traditions of the Department and the FBI.



So Bannon convinced all those people?


Reality : a non-partisan Deputy AG, also appointed by Obama to a position during his administration no less, steps into the job two weeks ago and gets testimony from several ex AG's and people within the FBI that says Comey is unfit to lead. Trump takes this non-partisans advice and fires Comey.

Liberal propaganda: Russia

That's about the sum of it.


Everyone plays politics but the more they push these blatantly transparent lies the bigger they're gonna lose in 2018. Let them hang themselves.



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