President Trump Fires James Comey

a reply to: introvert

Fine, you wanna make it dollar-ten? $100 buy-in.

I don't do casinos and I don't do table stakes.

TheRedneck

I'm phone only at the retreat, doing long lists of links isn't practical.

I do see much on Web that says Comey should have recused himself from anything to do with Clintons given long history of connections.

Not recusing himself (nor his #2) certainly is grounds for dismissal.

He's an attorney and knows the rules.

Now his tenure as FBI Director is open to influence investigation and his role in possible criminal acts becomes a question.

Folks are on deadend with "Muh Russians" and Trump and should be looking at glaring corruption right under noses all along.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Fine, you wanna make it dollar-ten? $100 buy-in.

No. I want to address the point at hand and that is about checking. If checking is frowned-upon in your circle of friends, that's fine. But outside of your circle, checking in it's various forms is nessecary and useful.

I don't do casinos and I don't do table stakes.

Your preference. I like to sit at a poker table where I can get full service and the dealer takes care of the cards/pot.

Also, table stakes/rules are important. Playing games without table stakes is how people lose homes, cars, etc.

And "go fish" style poker doesn't interest me that much. Test your mettle at high/low Omaha for a real thrill.

originally posted by: marg6043
This interesting, so far this what is been circulated in the net about the tapes.

Actual Tweet, “James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!” the commander-in-chief tweeted Friday morning.

President Trump issued a veiled threat Friday to James Comey — telling the ousted FBI director that he’d better hope there are no recordings of their conversations.

nypost.com...

Did Trump break the law by firing Comey? He hints at 'tapes' in early morning tweets
www.abajournal.com...

Trump suggests there may be ‘tapes’ of his private conversations with former FBI directorDonald Trump appeared to threaten James Comey with the release of “tapes” of their private conversations as he ... Donald Trump hints at releasing 'tapes'

www.washingtonpost.com... r/?utm_term=.4dcf18fc07fb

Trump "hints" that he has tapes of his ... Now Trump "threatens" Comey to NOT contradict him about clearing Trump of any investigations since he may have "taped

More Donald Trump tapes? - Business Insider

Got to love the twisting and the insinuations.

I find it hilarious.

Nixon had a hard-on for tapes too, and we all know what happened to him.

originally posted by: olaru12
And "go fish" style poker doesn't interest me that much. Test your mettle at high/low Omaha for a real thrill.

That's the only Omaha game I like.

If you really want to make yourself sweat, play Razz.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: olaru12
And "go fish" style poker doesn't interest me that much. Test your mettle at high/low Omaha for a real thrill.

That's the only Omaha game I like.

If you really want to make yourself sweat, play Razz.

They don't deal Razz here in the Rio Grande valley. What casinos have it and do they have tourny play?

Oh yeah, California! Those card rooms are killer. As much as I hate to admit it, I would be the chump in that environment.

a reply to: Indigo5

"Insane vitriol" is what despots thrive on. Trump is a vampire sociopath who sucks up the energy around people in order to live, energy given off by people whom he has bitten with his chaotic energy, which makes him create more insane, chaotic energy to ensure their and his own survival.

It is very telling, that in the wake of Comey's firing, either more people are eating garlic or are just waking up to what Trump is all about. Here is a Republican, John McCain's former Chief of Staff no less, who wants to actually not just avoid the vampire but contain him:

"Words I thought I'd never say: the security of the United States might now depend on electing a Democratic Congress in 2018. Tweeted by Mark Salter

We are in times that try men's souls, as Thomas Paine wrote. The Republican Party is no longer a Loyal Opposition, as they once were more than 20 years ago. They have turned out to be Patriots for Power, not We The People. It has devolved to a dangerous domestic enemy! By supporting Trump, the Republican Party has already (in 100 days!!) done enough damage to America, to its values, and to its democratic institutions. As long as Republicans hold power in Washington (Pence, Ryan, down the line of succession), there is domestic danger.

Even if somehow Trump steps down or is pushed down, Pence is dirty with the taint of Russian interference, just having been the Trump campaign transition leader... he knew, or if he didn't, he is incompetent, too. That would still leave a messy taint if he became VP. Paul Ryan is a Koch Head, who, given power in all three branches (as Trump has) would turn America into a right wing dangerous extremist Libertarian economic and governance nightmare, let alone give ultimate power to the extremist Christian right, who, like the Muslim ISIS extremists who want to establish a Muslim Caliphate, want America to be a Christian Caliphate. The American Christian Dominionists (Ted Cruz is one) are religiously equivalent to the Muslim ISIS extremists.

We need to Make America Sane and Safe Again. The checks and balances our Founding Leaders gave us, now more than ever.

a reply to: desert

Yeah, Comey was McCains tool to go after Abromoff who raised money that helped ensure McCain lost in 2000 RNC primary.

Anybody connected to McCain as well as McCain himself is not exactly an unbiased source of opinion when it comes to Comey.

a reply to: desert

Relying on Democrats to save the country from Republicans is like drinking strychnine to treat arsenic poisoning.

a reply to: introvert

Actually, the issue at hand is Trump firing Comey. You guys can argue about poker all you want. Indigo5 thinks you can just ignore a raise. Fine. Come to Alabama and bring cash.

a reply to: desert

Your post assumes that people consider McCain as one of the 'good guys.' I do not. McCain won his seat in Congress thanks in large part to his ex-POW status. While I salute his contribution, the fact that his record in politics leaves much to be desired overrides.

I have stated I voted for Obama in 2008 (to my eternal shame) many times, but few times have I mentioned why. My decision was based on a greater fear of McCain than of Obama! That was around the time Congress was trying to pass the bailouts for the financial giants, a move I absolutely opposed (and still do), and McCain made a statement that Bush did not need Congress to proceed with the bailouts.

WHAT?!?! Hell, no, you do not get that office!

If you look back through my posts recently about draining the swamp, you'll notice I typically include him as a specific source of swamp muck needing to be drained, along with several prominent Democrats.

PARTY IS NOT THE ISSUE! CORRUPTION IS THE ISSUE!

Until people understand that, they will continue to get things wrong. McCain is corrupt; McCain needs to go. If Trump ever actually does something corrupt, Trump will need to go. If Trey Gowdy is shown to be corrupt, Trey Gowdy will need to go. And no comparison with someone else matters in that respect. Look, X doesn't need to go because Y did worse... that just means X and Y both need to go.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Xcathdra

Well can that be a 51 vote too?

It is a criminal violation so no votes are needed except by a jury or 1 vote by a judge.

Well the FBI is a criminal organization if they do as they threatened.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Your post assumes that people consider McCain as one of the 'good guys.'

Any assumption going on is assuming that that is what the post assumes. My intent was to show that there are rumblings coming from solid Republicans about turning to the checks and balances of the system our Founding leaders gave us.

Salter is not the only Republican.

BTW some of us here are old enough to remember McCain from not only Viet Nam days but from the Keating 5.

originally posted by: Phoenix
a reply to: desert

Yeah, Comey was McCains tool to go after Abromoff who raised money that helped ensure McCain lost in 2000 RNC primary.

Holy crap...Jack Abraham was a poster boy for criminal government.

originally posted by: TheRedneck

Your post assumes that people consider McCain as one of the 'good guys.'

I assume to Trump supporters that any republican that does not kiss his ring is one of the "bad guys"..

If you look back through my posts recently about draining the swamp, you'll notice I typically include him as a specific source of swamp muck needing to be drained, along with several prominent Democrats.

McCain is one of the few people in congress that actually passed campaign finance reform...which has since been gutted entirely by his own party.


Strange you find him corrupt.


If Trump ever actually does something corrupt, Trump will need to go.

We passed that bar the moment he took the oath of office..actually long before..

originally posted by: Majic
a reply to: desert

Relying on Democrats to save the country from Republicans is like drinking strychnine to treat arsenic poisoning.

Couldn't have said it better myself. People looking to the left to save us are going to be waiting until the sun goes red giant for that.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Indigo5

Check is often a move...

We know what check is. It's a bet of zero.

In any serious poker game, checking is considered a rookie move

Not sure what to say...Never played in the world series or anything...but the locals seem to consider me a serious player..

Wish I lived near your hood though Red...Sounds like there is money waiting there..

"This Son of Bitch...all night he Check..Check.....Check..."

Comey did his friend McCain right on Abromoff and McCain been up his behind ever since.

If you take a moment from partisan party and look up few historical facts you'll find Clintons similarly have had many things fixed by Comey as well.

Which all by themselves justify firing for Comey not recusing himself from anything Clinton including the "Muh Russians" gameshow.

a reply to: Indigo5

I assume to Trump supporters that any republican that does not kiss his ring is one of the "bad guys"..

You seriously do not understand what corruption is?

Anyone who grievously violates the law, uses their office for personal gain at the peril of average Americans, or colludes with others to harm the United States, is corrupt. Kissing some fantasy ring has nothing to do with it.

McCain is one of the few people in congress that actually passed campaign finance reform...which has since been gutted entirely by his own party.


Strange you find him corrupt.

Oh, so giving taxpayer money to wealthy corporations for the express purpose of insulating them from their own bone-headed decisions, without even getting Congressional approval, isn't corrupt in your opinion? It is corrupt in mine.

We passed that bar the moment he took the oath of office..actually long before..

But taking the oath of office... no, just winning an election... is corrupt?

You got some serious cognitive issues there.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: alphabetaone

Those examples indicate that that the MSM is more clueless than Trump. Given that most of Trump's detractors seem to parrot MSM claims (or suppositions, if you prefer those semantics), his detractors have a record of being much more 'clueless' than Trump.

TheRedneck

I think you're right, in some instances, that some detractors simply parrot MSM bullet items without any disposition of their own to make a comparison, but all honesty here, I think most of the detractors are letting what they see guide their disdain. I mean you want to talk history, well MSM didn't make up the "grab em by the pu__y" statement, Trump did that himself. MSM was not the puppet master during his "Obama had me 'wiretapped' " debacle, that was his doing.

There's a whole suite of things that quite frankly needn't be revisited simply because they've been gone over time and again, here and elsewhere....my point only being that MSM doesn't have to be a culprit in people seeing what they're seeing with their own eyes and hearing with their own ears. Also, if we both want to be honest with each other, the Right is equally as guilty of parroting as is the left for those that simply do that...for some people it gives them a feeling of importance or perhaps as though they want to give the impression that they are somewhat more in tune with politics than they really are....for those people, no harm done really with the exception being if they're using it as a guiding light at the polls, which honestly I suspect it probably does.