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Gay Genes, Religous implications ?

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posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 01:04 PM
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The final thing to realize is that our God does not only speak to us through the bible, our God is alive. He speaks to us right now


Dude,,, you and I apparently pray to two different beings then I f yours tells you homosexuality is ok. Read your Bible a little more and a little less running your mouth.




posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 01:06 PM
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But you have already admitted that your mind is well and truely closed when it comes to any scientific evidence pointing either way, so surely there would be no implications in your world? Or have i missed a vital point? Anyway, back on subject


Instead of trying to open everyones minds to a warped idea, why don't you try closing yours a bit and keep it all to yourself.



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 01:26 PM
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What would you do if your child discovers he is gay????? Would you slap him and tell him that you never wanna see him again?

What would jesus DO if a gay comes to him????? Would jesus tell him , you are a sinner, you don't belong here.....

THINK about that if Jesus is really your model

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxx


IBM

posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Amelia
What would you do if your child discovers he is gay????? Would you slap him and tell him that you never wanna see him again?

What would jesus DO if a gay comes to him????? Would jesus tell him , you are a sinner, you don't belong here.....

THINK about that if Jesus is really your model

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Yes as a matter of fact i would do exactly that, as a parent you are supposed to lead your child on the right path and not make the kid do any bad things like being gay, which is a choice and can be controlled. If a kid makes a bad choice like being gay then you must show him the right path.



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 02:38 PM
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I can't even beleive what I am reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that where society is going?!?!?!?! Thinking that gays have choice to be gay. What about those who don't wanna be gay and suicide themselves because they actually ARE and can't do a thing about it!

OMG.....that is something!!!!!!
It affects me....really! To know that people hate gays soooo much!

You should be gay in your next life, and is what will happen! Bad karma

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


IBM

posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by Amelia
I can't even beleive what I am reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that where society is going?!?!?!?! Thinking that gays have choice to be gay. What about those who don't wanna be gay and suicide themselves because they actually ARE and can't do a thing about it!

OMG.....that is something!!!!!!
It affects me....really! To know that people hate gays soooo much!

You should be gay in your next life, and is what will happen! Bad karma

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


OMG i cant belive that im reading. Is that where society is going? Thinking that gays are acceptable? They kill themselves cause them made a bad decision. Like some murderers kill themselves in prison for doing a bad thing and not living up to thier mistake. PS. I dont believe in second lives.



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 02:48 PM
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You are a GUY, that think that the best persons are: White, straight, men, american, republican, christians....AM I right or not

Anything that don't really fit in is just BS to you...no????

I'm just feel sorry for you, you WILL be gay in your next life, even if you don't beleive in karma

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


IBM

posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 02:52 PM
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You are quite mistaken, im not white, or christian. Shows that your sterotypes dont work. Being gay is simply a bad choice. If you think babies are born gay why dont you ask an infant if they are attraceted to males or females. Yep wont get an answer, because babies cant convey their sexual preferences at that age. There is simply no evidence to back up your story.



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by IBM
There is simply no evidence to back up your story.


Gays are people like anybody else, you'll see that in your next incarnation....

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by IBMlike being gay, which is a choice and can be controlled.


Well I never chose to be gay. And if you're not gay yourself then how can you know it is a choice? Maybe the answer is that you want it to be a choice to justify your own beliefs?

I challenge you, and any other person who believes that being gay is by choice, to go to a gay bar, youth group or any other gay organisation and find one person who chose to be gay.

Wouldn't life be so much easier if we were all bisexual? All the problems and pain wouldn't be there and we'd have twice as much chance of getting a date on valentine's day.



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by IBM
Being gay is simply a bad choice. If you think babies are born gay why dont you ask an infant if they are attraceted to males or females. Yep wont get an answer, because babies cant convey their sexual preferences at that age. There is simply no evidence to back up your story.


Ah, so children of mothers who took diet pills while they were pregnant are somehow by coincidence all choosing to become gay?
You're making a fool out of yourself.



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 07:29 PM
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Well I never chose to be gay. And if you're not gay yourself then how can you know it is a choice? Maybe the answer is that you want it to be a choice to justify your own beliefs?


If you are gay, then you chose. Are you telling me that everytime you have been with a partner of the same sex, that you didn't choose what happened? If you didn't then you were raped. Are you telling me that you have no control over your body and mind? Please stop trying to pass the buck. If you choose to be gay, then choose. But stop trying to RECTify it by saying you can't help it, or you were born that way. It is a lifestyle you chose.
Men's parts do not fit together, as women's do not. Men and women belong together. Remember in the beginning was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 07:30 PM
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Do most major religions condemn homosexuality or is it mainly Christians? I really have no idea. I know the Koran allows bestiality, but may not eat any animal they have "known." Is it the act of anal sex that's frowned on by Christians. What if a man and women engage in it? Don't forget it wasn't that long ago when anal and oral sex were against the law. During the Dark Ages, Christians regarded all sex as sinful and procreation a necessary evil. You'd think by now they'd be past their sexual intolerance. With so many church Fathers closet pedophiles, this faiths hypocrisy is beyond belief!
Man created religion not God. Do you seriously think he cares who you have sex with?



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 07:33 PM
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Ah, so children of mothers who took diet pills while they were pregnant are somehow by coincidence all choosing to become gay?


Do what?!
So now you are blaming homosexuality on diet pills? Why not blame it on hemoroids, or skittles, or blood type, or electromagnetic waves? Those all make just as much sense. Why not blame serial killers on bad shrimp? You must be a lawyer. Someone who lives his life making excuses for everyone's actions.



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by deesw
Instead of trying to open everyones minds to a warped idea, why don't you try closing yours a bit and keep it all to yourself.




Originally posted by deesw
Read your Bible a little more and a little less running your mouth.


Who are you to be telling people to shut up?

By the way I am STILL waiting for you to show me where people are calling you a Bastard and a retard as you have claimed several times

Does your bible have the part about lying in it?


remember this claim?


Originally posted by deesw
I have been called a biggot so many times it's not funny, an arrogant jackass, a troll, a bastard, an asshole, an idiot, retarded. None of which has been addressed.



[edit on 14-2-2005 by Amuk]



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by deesw
So now you are blaming homosexuality on diet pills? Why not blame it on hemoroids, or skittles, or blood type, or electromagnetic waves?


Because those things DO NOT make an embryo gay, however SCIENTISTS seem to agree that DIET PILLS do have something to do with people being born gay.


Those all make just as much sense.


What is wrong with you? Do you really not understand what this research is about? Are you not capable of reading text? Is your mind this selective??


Why not blame serial killers on bad shrimp? You must be a lawyer. Someone who lives his life making excuses for everyone's actions.


Excuses for everyones actions???
Ok one more time, let's try it in caps.
BEING GAY IS NOT AN ACTION
BEING BORN GAY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEX YET
WHAT GENDER YOU FEEL ATTRACTED TO IS NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE
DIET PILLS SEEM TO CHANGE AN EMBRYOS SEXUAL ORIENTATION
SCIENTISTS SAY IT
HOW HARD CAN IT BE?


I don't think you'll understand that, but let's just say it was worth a shot.
;+)



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 05:11 AM
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What does it matter if some one is gay or not???

They are still a person with feelings, a man or woman, flesh and blood, some ones son or daughter.

It really makes me laugh becuase the impression I get is that some people would change their attitude towards another upon finding out they are gay. What difference does it make? - None that is what. Peolpe should not let it change the way they think towards some one.

So what if S/HE decides or should I say chooses, to be gay?

So what if S/HE was born gay?

Does it really matter?

Toby



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by deesw
If you are gay, then you chose. Are you telling me that everytime you have been with a partner of the same sex, that you didn't choose what happened?


There's a difference between choosing sexuality and choosing your partner.

You'll agree that sexuality cannot be controlled, as you wouldn't be with someone of the same gender because your brain doesn't react to that person in the same way it does to members of the opposite sex. It's more-or-less the same for homosexuals, except we all react to members of the same sex.

It's all part of human nature and can't be controlled. Believe me, I'd love to be straight: life would be so much easier. Besides, why would anyone choose to be gay anyway? I'm struggling to think of any advantages, mind helping me out?



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 08:49 AM
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Well heres the thing, its a well known fact that there are actually more neural pathways from the brain to the ear, than from the ear to the brain, I bring this up because it illustrates the point that we have more influence over our senses and emotions than our senses or emotons have over us. In other words your ear doesn't tell your brain what you are hearing your brain tells your ear what to hear.
I believe that sexuality is the same, It is not a situation where your hormones, genitalia, etc. tell your brain what to respond to, but rather one where you, at some level, tell your hormones and genitalia, etc. what you want to respond to. In other words you are not gay because your sexuality determines which sex you are attracted to but rather you determine which sex you want to be atracted to.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 08:56 AM
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I'm sorry to tell you that but with the signature you have, I think you have been brainwashed and that you think with your brain and not with your heart...maybe you need to do some meditation

YOUR signature
Tolerance of immoralty is no virtue and intolerance of immoraltiy is no evil.
Americans are Gods chosen people
Freedom of speech means people have the right to be as*holes
Islam is the tool of the devil, and muhhamed is a false prophet
If any of the above statements offend you, go yourself

That offend me BTW......



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