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originally posted by: noonebutme
a reply to: randyvs
Just because I don't believe in your beliefs (and think they are silly) doesn't mean I dislike you as a person. We've gone toe to toe over the years -- heatedly. I'd still always buy you a beer IRL - I reckon we still have more similarities than differences.
originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite
Fact is, no one really knows if He exists. People who are religious, believe because they've grown up with it and just take it for granted that God exists. Or, they come to it later in life for some reason or another. I grew up in a VERY religious family, with several Uncles who were Preachers. I saw the hypocrisy and fighting between faiths, each proclaiming they are "The One and Only" and if you don't follow their version, you're bound for warmer climate. I saw Preachers who thundered out the message against drinking....who had a still up the mountain behind their house.
Faith is just that...Faith. Believing in something with no actual proof. Like I said, I can't proof He doesn't exist and the believers can't prove He does. Stalemate. For the last few thousand years.
Russels teapot is not really a good argument.
Cosmological theory of a necessary being is a valid logical concept.
I don't believe in it but it is not simply superstion.
Also the teleological argument can have some logic as well. Theist often borrow fine tuning observations to say look it's god.
I don't "believe" in it but it isn't trivial as Chris H. Would say.