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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude
If left alone, the ACA was failing and destined to implode.
Can you please elaborate on why it is/was failing and is destined to implode?
Humana's exit from 2018 Obamacare market sets states and insurers scrambling
"It is in a death spiral."
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: network dude
Obama tries to save his failed legacy
How has his legacy failed?
Seems to me the GOP have failed to repair, repeal or replace Obamacare...
Nor have they proposed anything that anyone on either side of the aisle can defend as an improvement?
Pres. Obama has repeatedly said if the GOP can come up with something better he will support it?
As it stands, they can't come up with anything the public or their fellow conservatives support?
Hell the Senate GOP said they were scrapping the entire bill the house theatrically passed and starting over.
If left alone, the ACA was failing and destined to implode.
originally posted by: Indigo5
If left alone
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: Indigo5
If left alone
Democrats would have been out of office in the very next elections. Democrats prevented the more expensive parts from taking effect in an effort to not lose elections. So let's not pretend like Republicans were the only ones who fought the ACA.
It was DOA, it just had some muscle spasms for a while.
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: Indigo5
If left alone
Democrats would have been out of office in the very next elections. Democrats prevented the more expensive parts from taking effect in an effort to not lose elections. So let's not pretend like Republicans were the only ones who fought the ACA.
It was DOA, it just had some muscle spasms for a while.
Nope...Obamacare is indisputably "better" than what we had before..
Whether it is "best" is about to be discovered...The GOP can improve Obamacare, Come up with their own plan...whatever...
But all they have proposed is making the costs much WORSE while covering LESS...
Obamacare vs. Pre-Obamacare clear trends and projections.
And this is after 8 years of legal attacks and bleeding funding...
IF THE GOP CAN DO BETTER.....DO IT...
BUT...what they have proposed is a complete #-show...
Fingers crossed they get it right...
Cuz they OWN healthcare now...Unified Government...Healthcare is theirs.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude
If left alone, the ACA was failing and destined to implode.
Can you please elaborate on why it is/was failing and is destined to implode?
originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: network dude
The only people who think Obama's legacy is a failure, are Trump supporters, who are in an ever shrinking minority. No matter what happens, Obama and his supporters will ALWAYS be able to say, hey, at least Obama is not a traitor, as it becomes increasingly clear that Trump probably is. LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!
Worst. President. Ever.
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
Did your health care cost go up? How about your taxes did they rise 22%? Has the ACA in fact effected you personally at all? Because it's had a very positive effect on me and my mother.
Yes, my cost more than doubled. You and your mother are welcome. Please be sure and thank all the middle class self employed folks who made your dreams possible.
I do thank them. I say thank you to you as well. You sound like you don't want to help pay for other peoples health care. I know lots of middle class people that don't mind doing it though. I think everyone should have a choice. If you don't want to help than you shouldn't be forced to do so but those who do wish to chip in should have that option. I have no idea how a healthcare plan that would accommodate both types would be set up though.
originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Apparently you don't actually listen to the news, huh? In reality, there's nothing BUT Russian connections to Trump, his associates/advisers/son-in-law. Think what you want, of course. I certainly couldn't care less. I wonder though, when Trump's behind bars as a traitor, will you still be sucking on him? If Hillary, or Obama had done even a shadow of the crap Trump's accused of, you, your militia buddies, and all the guys at your 'social club' would be going absolutely nuts. Your hatred of Hillary, and the 'lame liberals', has blinded you to Trump's anti-American, clearly unqualified occupation of the White House. His presidency is shameful for all American - even the 'poorly educated' who Trump has bamboozled.