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Acts 4: 11He is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ 12Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”
Isaiah 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, A costly cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed.
Matthew 21:42
Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: 'The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is from the Lord, and it is marvelous in our eyes' ?
St.Luke 1:38
38 “I am the Lord’s slave,”[a] said Mary. “May it be done to me according to your word.” Then the angel left her.
St Mark 13: The Abomination of Desolation
…21At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it. 22For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. 23So be on your guard; I have told you everything in advance.…
Isaiah 52,
The Suffering and Glory of the Servant
13 See, my servant will act wisely;
he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted.
14 Just as there were many who were appalled at him—
his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being
and his form marred beyond human likeness—
15 so he will sprinkle many nations,
and kings will shut their mouths because of him.
For what they were not told, they will see,
and what they have not heard, they will understand.
53:
Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.
4 Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied;
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.
originally posted by: chiefsmom
No offense meant toward you beliefs, but...
If you were trying to convert pagans to this new religion, seems to me you would have both a male and female, as they worship the duality, and equality of both.
Just a thought.
Julius wrote: Tallus, in the third book of his histories, explains away this darkness as an eclipse of the sun unreasonably, as it seems to me (unreasonably of course, because a solar eclipse could not take place at the time of the full moon, and it was at the season of the Paschal full moon that Christ died." Julius Africanus, Chronography, 18.1
"Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ, and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians so named from him are not extinct at this day." Antiquities, XVIII, 33, Josephus ben Mathathias
Written on vellum — treated animal skin — it had been in the archives of the British Library for about 20 years, where it was put after the British Museum had originally bought it in 1847 from a dealer who said he had obtained it from the ancient St Macarius Monastery in Egypt.
For the past 160 years, the document has been studied by a few scholars but has been considered pretty unremarkable.
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Psalm 82:
God Presides in the Great Assembly
…5They do not know nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. 7"Nevertheless you will die like men And fall like any one of the princes."…
New American Standard Bible
Cross References
Zechariah 12:8
"In that day the LORD will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the one who is feeble among them in that day will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the LORD before them.
John 10:34
Jesus replied, "Is it not written in your Law: 'I have said you are gods' ?
originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Really?
So what is this about? have you ever read this psalm?
Psalm 82:
God Presides in the Great Assembly
…5They do not know nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. 7"Nevertheless you will die like men And fall like any one of the princes."…
New American Standard Bible
Cross References
Zechariah 12:8
"In that day the LORD will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the one who is feeble among them in that day will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the LORD before them.
John 10:34
Jesus replied, "Is it not written in your Law: 'I have said you are gods' ?
The Angel of Lightness
This is a common misconception amongst Christians... The "messiah phrophecy" to the ancient and modern Jews, was not even remotely central to their religion. It is a title awarded to multiple figures over the Millinia, and was never considered to be referring to the sone of God... That was added after the first century, which is why it was so hotly debated at the council of Nicea and why the Jews never bought Jesus's story in the first place... They were not awaiting "the son of God" and Jesus didn't free them from the yoke of Rome, so he wasn't a messiah.
originally posted by: Seede
a reply to: JoshuaCox
This is a common misconception amongst Christians... The "messiah phrophecy" to the ancient and modern Jews, was not even remotely central to their religion. It is a title awarded to multiple figures over the Millinia, and was never considered to be referring to the sone of God... That was added after the first century, which is why it was so hotly debated at the council of Nicea and why the Jews never bought Jesus's story in the first place... They were not awaiting "the son of God" and Jesus didn't free them from the yoke of Rome, so he wasn't a messiah.
I don't think that is correct at all.
The Hebrew and Jewish messiah prophecy is the very central theme of their religion then and now. The messiah of both the prophets and of the temples eras, even today, is that a special endowed human descendant of the seed of David will once again take the scepter of world power and become king and ruler of this world. He will be the messiah or deliverer of both Jew and Gentile. He will live and die as a man and his offspring will be the inheritors of his throne.
That has nothing to do with the Begotten Son Of God or sons of gods. James The Just, brother of Jesus, taught that his brother, Jesus, was indeed conceived by the Holy Spirit (God) and is the begotten Son Of God. James taught this over three decades before he was murdered by the Jews. It was well over 250 years later that the Catholic council of Nicea determined that what James taught was absolutely true. So in all fairness it was not a Roman belief by any stretch of the imagination. The many congregations of church bishops were so divided in their beliefs that the matter had to be unified among the Roman Catholic congregations. Actually even this did not unify the congregations till some years later.
Jesus did not come as the end time idea of a Jewish Messiah, but came as the Messiah (deliverer) who delivered those righteous spirits, who were imprisoned in Sheol, to become the first to inherit the kingdom of heaven. The kingdom of heaven is detailed in the latter chapters of Revelation and is described as the celestial realm of New Jerusalem along with the new heaven and earth. The incarnation of Jesus is actually very misunderstood by most Christians who use His advent as a crutch for forgiveness of sin. While that is somewhat true it is not the primary purpose.
You are correct in that the Jews were looking for their idea of a messiah and because Jesus did not fit their requirements of a Dividic king, they rejected Him. That and the misunderstanding they have that The Most High El has no son and cannot be divided as in a trinity. The Muslims reject Jesus in like manner.