It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
My hope is that trumpcare will be better or at least as good as what I have now through the ACA. Just please please don't raise my mothers health costs.
originally posted by: Throes
originally posted by: PistolPete
a reply to: carewemust
Obamacare is a joke. It was a money grab for insurance companies.
One thing I know Donald Trump understands is the massive pile of money that businesses sit under with health insurance fees and as someone that has negotiated contracts with employers it's the main thing keeping wages and full-time employment down.
Universal would cure a lot of that. Respect to you for examining the situation. Stars all over.
Obamacare was not a money grab for insurance companies. I worked for one and saw the big red money amount on the bottom line.
Almost all insurance companies lost money on it and had to make it up by increasing premiums and deductibles for everyone else.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
Well all I have to say is I told you so. You better hope the GOP has something better that won't cause you to choose between medical care and food on the table or a roof over your head.
Better is subjective based on what you value as important. If the private individual has to pay double and the richest members of our society get all the ACA taxes rescinded then if that is your metric the new GOP bill is GREAT!
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
originally posted by: Throes
originally posted by: PistolPete
a reply to: carewemust
Obamacare is a joke. It was a money grab for insurance companies.
One thing I know Donald Trump understands is the massive pile of money that businesses sit under with health insurance fees and as someone that has negotiated contracts with employers it's the main thing keeping wages and full-time employment down.
Universal would cure a lot of that. Respect to you for examining the situation. Stars all over.
Obamacare was not a money grab for insurance companies. I worked for one and saw the big red money amount on the bottom line.
Almost all insurance companies lost money on it and had to make it up by increasing premiums and deductibles for everyone else.
Any idea of the profits they posted last quarter?
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: carewemust
Have you read the mew bill? It's a 400-600 billion give away to insurance companies. Go ahead and tow the party line, it's not even a conservative bill.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
My hope is that trumpcare will be better or at least as good as what I have now through the ACA. Just please please don't raise my mothers health costs.
The bill House Republicans just voted for and passed (which was done so hastily many Republicans are on record for not having read it and the CBO hasn't released an updated budget projection for it either) will make you and your mother MUCH worse off than under Obamacare. You'll could either be paying much more for her care or she'll have no care whatsoever depending on the state you live in.
originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Obamacare (ACA) was just the left's way of pushing single payer. They knew it was a disaster, which is why they didn't allow anyone to see what was in it before they passed it. Then they nitpick stats out from ACA saying things like we insured another 20 million people, but don't mention the millions they screwed. The problem is only the idiots not paying for ACA believe all this nonsense that single payer will be great. I just wish I could get one of those credit cards the left believes in, where I can use it until it quits working and then the debt magically goes away.
originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Obamacare (ACA) was just the left's way of pushing single payer.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Obamacare (ACA) was just the left's way of pushing single payer.
Um... No... The ACA was a compromise with Republicans because the Democrats knew they weren't getting single payer. The ACA was originally Romneycare in Massachusetts. A conservative plan.
originally posted by: ElGoobero
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Obamacare (ACA) was just the left's way of pushing single payer.
Um... No... The ACA was a compromise with Republicans because the Democrats knew they weren't getting single payer. The ACA was originally Romneycare in Massachusetts. A conservative plan.
compromise with the Republicans? no. not one Republican voted for it.
Romneycare? what might work at a state level won't necessarily work nationally. Mass is a very left/democrat state; no way it's a 'conservative' plan. the conservative solution to the health care situation is reduce government controls and allow more (insurance company) competition.
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
originally posted by: Throes
originally posted by: PistolPete
a reply to: carewemust
Obamacare is a joke. It was a money grab for insurance companies.
One thing I know Donald Trump understands is the massive pile of money that businesses sit under with health insurance fees and as someone that has negotiated contracts with employers it's the main thing keeping wages and full-time employment down.
Universal would cure a lot of that. Respect to you for examining the situation. Stars all over.
Obamacare was not a money grab for insurance companies. I worked for one and saw the big red money amount on the bottom line.
Almost all insurance companies lost money on it and had to make it up by increasing premiums and deductibles for everyone else.
Any idea of the profits they posted last quarter?