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America’s Top Scientists Confirm: U.S. Goal Now Is to Conquer Russia.

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posted on May, 8 2017 @ 02:40 AM
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a reply to: Willtell US needs to conquer Syria, Iran, Russia, then China and India and Japan. This is nothing new. It is the US businesses plan transferred to the geopolitical field. Money and power drive the car, not fears from nukes or ideology motives. However the military resistance against US is substantial, and if I was a high position US military general, I would do honor to myself and resign, before I am pushed that much to the wall, that desperation offence is my last option at the field.

If you are not aware what is going on, the CIA/MI6 induced terrorist groups, supplied with weapons from NATO countries, are very close to finish off Syria. Next is Iran . That's why Russia is strategic ally of Iran, not only because of trade interests, but from military viewpoint, If Syria and Iran falls, then the war will be on the borders of Russia. And that's too close, we'll have big world problem if the Israeli puppets do not stop pushing with their dirty fingers, claiming that they are liberators and counter terrorists, benevolent and warm hearted fairies.

But do you know what is the most surprising... that US military operated this schisms for the last 50 years, and the mob is still bound and blind as it was five decades ago. Today the Baboons of the rainforests and Elephants in the circuses know more of geo-politics reality, than the average Joe, living in EU or US. That's how much advanced we are....




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posted on May, 8 2017 @ 02:52 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

I agree. It is madness. And I dont get why the American ruling elite are so set on pushing ww3. Is their greed not satisfied with their superfluous levels of wealth and power? Apparently not.

I do not comprehend their mindset. Im sure we arent privy to some things they are, but just cant see any reason to push ww3.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 02:59 AM
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a reply to: pirhanna I actually answered to your question. I'll say it again. They are afraid. They are trembling like kid caught in cheating. Their house of cards crumbles. It's all or nothing, and they may be stupid enough not to surrender the cards. But then, bye bye world....



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

Americas role has ALWAYS been to conquer Russia. Russia is are sworn enemy and we must do our duty to devestate it.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 03:05 AM
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a reply to: FuggleHop

I don't follow that faith.
NOR do I see it written in stone,if it WAS they would have HIT us already.
Obama was an OPEN sore they could have taken on.
INSTEAD they laughed.
THEY think we are unstable and they are frightened by it.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Well, as Patton might have said "IF there laughing, kick 'em in the nuts".

Thats my philosophy 101. If There laughing, kick em in the nuts.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: Argentbenign

Maybe. I dont know if I buy that their house of cards is really crumbling. They own all the cards. They design the cards. They write the rules of the game. Honestly, I think their position is more secure now than ever. They control the masses at whim.

Maybe not fear, but hubris? I dont know, its like their motive is something entirely unknown to us.

Im not saying its aliens, but maybe its aliens.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 03:49 AM
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a reply to: FuggleHop

Plate's full.
We hit the Norks then Iran.
WE'LL see what the last two want THEN.
I bet they JOIN rather quickly if we do it right,and allow the two an out ,China for the damn FACE thing and Russia for her economic survival.
THEN we all must take a real good look at Africa.
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posted on May, 8 2017 @ 04:14 AM
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A small point, but would you call these three authors "America's top scientists"?

This is an article of self-aggrandisement rather than an important study, being as it based on assumption and “secret” sources whose origins are not made know, and an earlier blog post written Eric Zuesse, who describes himself as an “investigative historian.

Besides, one of the three “scientists” is Danish (Hans Kristensen). So that makes it “two American scientists and a Dane”.

I find it useful to investigate the motives of authors when reading this type of article, especially when things reported as fact are (er) impossible to validate.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: Noncents

So you think Putin knows the US is all bluff and showmanship?

thebulletin.org...

"We end this article with quotes from Vladimir Putin, talking impromptu to a group of journalists during the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum in June 2016. His unrehearsed remarks are clear and candid predictors of how he will assess the implications of the super-fuze:

No matter what we said to our American partners [to curb the production of weaponry], they refused to cooperate with us, they rejected our offers, and continue to do their own thing.

… They rejected everything we had to offer.

… the Iranian threat does not exist, but missile defense systems are continuing to be positioned...

That means we were right when we said that they are lying to us.

Their reasons were not genuine, in reference to the "Iranian nuclear threat."

Your people [the populations of the Western alliance] … do not feel a sense of the impending danger—this is what worries me.

A missile defense system is one element of the whole system of offensive military potential.

It works as part of a whole that includes offensive missile launchers.

One complex blocks, the other launches high precision weapons, the third blocks a potential nuclear strike, and the fourth sends out its own nuclear weapon in response.

This is all designed to be part of one system.

I don't know how this is all going to end.

What I do know is that we will need to defend ourselves."



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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I tend to think we have enough problems here to keep us occupied for the foreseeable future. Chicago, Berkley, immigration, the soon approaching banking reset over National debt BLM, SJW and just when we think it's time, perhaps an earthquake on the coast or Alaska again, maybe weather flooding and other calamities. Mo. comes to mind, and hurricane season will be upon us soon. "Toto, I don't think were in Kansas anymore"

My bet.... we will be content to let Russia do their own thing.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: pirhanna
a reply to: Argentbenign

They own all the cards.


They want the public to think so! Believe me, really is quite different. I am not saying that England, the United States, Israel and their military expression NATO are dead meat, however they are quite sad picture.
-first. EU realised it was tactical(economic) mistake to join on that side(US), and now is in very tough position. EU is still in the game on US side, but trying to get out if possible - each country by its own plan. It's a big mess there and the whole union is not as supportive as it was expected. Big blunder in the plan against Russia.
-second. US economics are so bad, that the county will collapse in few years if stops to plunder and exploit the third world.
-third. on military level Russia seems very very badass even without its nukes. Google their several new technological improvements in just the last few years. There is rumors that they have as well untrackable to anti radar systems, developed by Iranian scientists, by the way. This however is top secret and I don't have confirmation yet.
The last year Russian military pranked US at least 3 times, just to show them they are not to mess with. One of the pranks was very serious, an NATO US owned ship had its electronics literally fried up nearby Turkey.
-forth. The economic giant China is definitely allied with Russia! This by itself is hell for the bulldog US, because now it has a bear and a dragon to fight with. Impossible task, especially ad both countries have no fear to respond if necessary. If I know one thing about Russians, that is that they are not cowards.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 12:50 PM
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This has a distinct odor of doom porn propaganda on it...
It's getting to the point whenever I hear the words "America's top scientists" my eyes automatically roll in my head. These science types have a horrible track record when it comes to anything! Long gone are the days of legitimate peer reviewed science. To get a federal grant you have to be part of a collective echo chamber and your experiment has to in some way implicate humans are the primary factor causing global warming.

If you say otherwise the science community at large discredits you. Take Patrick Moore(former president of GreenPeace) for example. Poor guy dared to question the narrative and is now largely regarded as a hack. Yet they worshiped the man just a decade ago...



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Argentbenign
They want the public to think so! Believe me, really is quite different. I am not saying that England, the United States, Israel and their military expression NATO are dead meat,

Israel is not in NATO.



EU realised it was tactical(economic) mistake to join on that side(US), and now is in very tough position. EU is still in the game on US side, but trying to get out if possible - each country by its own plan. It's a big mess there and the whole union is not as supportive as it was expected. Big blunder in the plan against Russia.

The EU does not trust Russia as far as they can throw them. All the recent additions to the EU hate Russia because they remember the invasion and occupation e.g. Poland. The EU and the US work together because they are part of the developed world.



on military level Russia seems very very badass even without its nukes.

Don't over-egg Russia. They have an undiversified economy the size of Italy and are totally outspent on defence by the EU, even without NATO. Recent experience has shown the Russian can flatten cities (Aleppo and Grozny) and meddle in Georgia and Ukraine, although Georgia gave them a run for their money.



There is rumors that they have as well untrackable to anti radar systems, developed by Iranian scientists, by the way.

Yep, that's believable. There are rumours pigs can fly, but not over Iran because pigs are forbidden.



The economic giant China is definitely allied with Russia!

And in the real world. Russia is an economic minnow compared to China.



If I know one thing about Russians, that is that they are not cowards.

Yep, Stalin proved that by killing millions of them.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Ah yes.. more Propaganda from globalresearch.

I call BS for all the obvious reasons stated time and time again whenever they are used as a "source".

RationalWiki - Globalresearch

lobalresearch is an anti-"Western" website that can't distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk — and so publishes both. It's basically the moonbat equivalent to Infowars or WND.

While some of GlobalResearch's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is conspiracist — if something goes wrong, the Jews West didit! The site has long been a crank magnet: If you disagree with "Western" sources on 9/11, or HAARP, or vaccines, or H1N1, or climate change, or anything published by the "mainstream" media, then GlobalResearch is guaranteed to have a page you will love.

The website (under the domain names globalresearch.ca(link), .org(link), and .com(link)) is run by the Montreal-based non-profit The Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG) founded by Michel Chossudovsky,[2][3] a former professor of economics at the University of Ottawa, Canada.[4]


Michel Chossudovsky

Michel Chossudovsky (born 1946) is a Canadian economist and author. He is a professor emeritus of economics at the University of Ottawa.[1][2] Since 2001, he has been the president and director of the Centre for Research on Globalization, which publishes pieces viewed as conspiracy theories and fake news.[3][4][5] Chossudovsky is himself a proponent of 9/11 conspiracy theories.[6][7]



Centre for Research on Globalization

In 2001, Chossudovsky founded the Centre for Research on Globalization, becoming its editor and director. Located in Montreal, Canada, it describes itself as an "independent research and media organization" that provides "analysis on issues which are barely covered by the mainstream media".[17]

Centre for Research on Globalization is known to promote conspiracy theories and falsehoods.[4][18][5][19][20][21][22] According to PolitiFact, the Centre "has advanced specious conspiracy theories on topics like 9/11, vaccines and global warming."[5] Foreign Policy notes that the Centre "sells books and videos that 'expose' how the September 11 terrorist attacks were 'most likely a special covert action' to 'further the goals of corporate globalization.'"[19] A 2010 study categorized the website as a source of anti-vaccine misinformation.[20] An Atlantic Council fellow has described it as "pro-Putin and anti-NATO".[23][unreliable source?] The Jewish Tribune described the Centre as being "rife with anti-Jewish conspiracy theory and Holocaust denial."[24] The Centre has promoted the Irish slavery myth, which prompted a letter by more than 80 scholars debunking the myth.[22] Writing for the New Republic, Muhammad Idrees Ahmad, Lecturer in Digital Journalism at the University of Stirling, describes the Centre's website as a "conspiracy site".[21] In 2017, the Centre published a piece alleging that the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack, which the international human rights organizations and governments of the United States, United Kingdom, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, France, and Israel attribute to the Bashar al-Assad regime, was a “false flag” operation orchestrated by “terrorists” opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.[18]


Abovetopsecret really needs to ban globalresearch as a source or at least relegate it to the hoax been where it belongs.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Well I think that GR is an alternative news and opinion site. Conspiracy, maybe, so what.


You don’t see a lot of their side of the fence much therefore they are as legitimate as any site from their perspective.

What do you want only sites you approve of?



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
they are scientist...not military strategist. screw their opinion.

Its not soooo difficult to understand...





posted on May, 8 2017 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Sites that dont go out of their way to lie in order to push an agenda. Globalresearch is notorious for their misinformation. It might as well be a second site for Sorcha Faal. Globalresearch has yet to get one thing right.
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posted on May, 8 2017 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: CharlesT
You're twisting my words a little. I said the whole thing is theater, not that the US is all bluff and showmanship. There's a difference.

The theater is putting on a show. The show makes the US and Russia look like hardcore enemies.

But we're not. They haven't done anything to us nor have we done anything to them. Every time a scaremongering post around here is made there always some level headed folks to point out the reality behind it.

Ooh, troops are being sent to position x... yeah, there's a normal annual training exercise there...

Ooh, we're about to do y... yeah, but then we don't.

So, when does it get real? What did Russia do about their perceived threat? Nothing. Because it's all a show.



posted on May, 9 2017 @ 05:18 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Thats right. Somalias had it coming for a looong time.




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