Seattle Mayor Adds Diet Drinks to His Soda Tax ‘To Tackle White Privilege’

a reply to: mobiusmale


Can't we leak plans for an ICBM to NK, that will just reach the west coast? Pre programed of course.

Does america really need that waste of space?

Friggin China doesn't pull this crap.

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: mOjOm

Yeah, I thought so. No wonder this thread has you so upset.

Not going to explain that comment I see. Well, that was expected. It's never an easy thing to explain your own biased perspective in a reasonable way. Much easier to just make such a vague comment and leave it open to mean whatever anyone wants it to mean and leave it like that, isn't it??

She's saying your white privilege is a side effect of your white guilt.

Then I'm sure she decided it's not worth her time to argue about it and left the thread.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I have zero white guilt though. Zero.

In fact when I do realize some form of white privilege happening, or any privilege that I'm in line with for that matter, I take full advantage of it if it's an option. Who wouldn't???

I am by no means feeling guilty about who I am and had no choice in being.

I'm not deluded enough to think that it doesn't happen though either. I know it does and don't deny it. But it is what it is.

That's why assuming I fit in some classification where you know me and what I feel about something is so stupid IMO. She doesn't want to debate it because she knows she might be proven incorrect and she would then have to rethink her nice safe solid belief which makes the world make sense for her and she doesn't have to question it.

a reply to: mobiusmale

I never get tired of seeing the left doing exactly what they claim to be against. We're for tolerance for fairness, so lets target a specific group of people we don't like and put a tax on them, then give their money to a specific group of people we do like. Sure we already have public education systems which treat everyone equally, but that isn't good enough, we need special education programs for minorities. They discriminate whilst simultaneously claiming to do the opposite, it truly is an amazing feat.

Also this whole argument that "it's not a leftist thing, it's about reducing obesity" is a load of crap. This is unadulterated nanny state socialist leftism at it's finest; sucking away all our individual freedom and liberty in exchange for communal safety and health. They only care about tax dollars, using arguments of morality simply helps reduce opposition to the taxes. Furthermore, these taxes simply don't work as intended, as demonstrated in a thread I wrote a few months ago:

Debunking a Nanny State Notion: Social Engineering with Taxes

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Finally, hearing from someone who gets it

The Nanny state was never about health. Its about creating divisions and grabbing control/money

non-smokers against smokers
black against white
thin against fat
non-drinkers against drinkers
asthmatics against everybody who chooses perfumed products

etc etc

all of this is used as an excuse to tax, tax, tax. Now its pop. Tomorrow its other foods the public health/government think might be bad for you (think baked goods, cookies, any kind of junk food). And the day after that, it will be all foods.

The question isn't about whether diet pop should be taxed. Its about whether or not, the government is reaching to provide more services to justify more taxes.

It's kind of ironic he's going to end up taxing the same people who are supposedly going to benefit from the tax. Everyone drinks soda and/or diet soda. Rich, poor, middle. Maybe he should tax wine over $30 a bottle?

a reply to: UpIsNowDown

Diet drinks are known to cause serious health issues.

Soft drinks consumed instead of water or non-sugar (unsweet tea and club-soda type) drinks make people fat, which causes serious health issues.


The only issue I see is that the big fatsos don't want to be "shamed" via their pocketbooks like they want to "shame" other people. "Vice tax." One size fits all.
Kinda.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
It's kind of ironic he's going to end up taxing the same people who are supposedly going to benefit from the tax. Everyone drinks soda and/or diet soda. Rich, poor, middle. Maybe he should tax wine over $30 a bottle?

No. "Everyone" doesn't.

Alcohol is already "taxed" as a vice.

Just like tobacco.

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Finally, hearing from someone who gets it

The Nanny state was never about health. Its about creating divisions and grabbing control/money

non-smokers against smokers
black against white
thin against fat
non-drinkers against drinkers
asthmatics against everybody who chooses perfumed products

etc etc

all of this is used as an excuse to tax, tax, tax. Now its pop. Tomorrow its other foods the public health/government think might be bad for you (think baked goods, cookies, any kind of junk food). And the day after that, it will be all foods.

The question isn't about whether diet pop should be taxed. Its about whether or not, the government is reaching to provide more services to justify more taxes.

Maybe you should encourage people to vote for "leaders" who won't lie and tell them they'll be cutting taxes on them. Because they keep voting for people who are filthy rich, who hire other filthy rich people - none of whom have any idea what it's like to have to cough up yet another buck just to have some semblance of a quality life. Don't vote for people who will only cut taxes for THE RICH, and give NONE OF IT to the needy.

So - what's your solution?

Yes, it is "selective" taxation, and it is horrible. But we can't just have NO TAXES. That simply doesn't work. I mean, we could, but we won't. We won't go back to a barter only system, because the people who are rich are having a grand old time stiffing every one of us, with carte blanche.

Selfish bastards.

Feel the Bern.

a reply to: ketsuko

Only liberal whites go there... if you wanted to get the conservative ones, tax 711's and taco bell. lol.

Perhaps one day the world will just banish all us white devils to Mars along with everything we have done on this planet. The world can go back to mass slavery fighting for scraps of bread in the dirt, dark, and cold.
Two can play at this game you SJW wack jobs!

a reply to: mOjOm

It's enough that you believe in the concept and concede that it exists. I call the whole thing BS. There is no such thing as a mythical, societal privilege you get because you are this, that, or the other ethnic heritage.

Shoot! With the inherent gifts and talents I was born with I should be rolling in my so-called white privilege, but instead, I'm a barely middle class part-time wage slave.

The idea of white privilege is just another excuse to explain away why one person or another isn't getting what want to think they're owed in life.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

smaller government, less services, less taxes.

citizen's treated as adults who can decide what to eat and drink instead of as children, who must be punished financially.

We need taxes to pay for necessary services but notice how the taxes all end up in general revenue and just disappear.

notice how these soda taxes are going to pay for education. Notice we already pay taxes for education and its never enough. notice how if tax revenue goes down because people stop drinking soda and then general taxes must be increased to pay for the education the soda tax was dedicated to.

Try holding politicians accountable for the most important thing that we pay them to do.....account for our money

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

smaller government, less services, less taxes.

citizen's treated as adults who can decide what to eat and drink instead of as children, who must be punished financially.

We need taxes to pay for necessary services but notice how the taxes all end up in general revenue and just disappear.

notice how these soda taxes are going to pay for education. Notice we already pay taxes for education and its never enough. notice how if tax revenue goes down because people stop drinking soda and then general taxes must be increased to pay for the education the soda tax was dedicated to.

Try holding politicians accountable for the most important thing that we pay them to do.....account for our money

This ^^^ That's why Bernie is a terrible choice. We'd fork over more money which will be inefficiently spent. It'll go missing. Trust our government LESS, not MORE. It's track record sucks!!

This soda tax is going to cost people jobs. Then you'll have the stupid mayor up there blaming greedy coporations like Bernie. Lol. Own the bed you made.

originally posted by: staticfl
a reply to: ketsuko

Only liberal whites go there... if you wanted to get the conservative ones, tax 711's and taco bell. lol.

Not true. I'm there most mornings.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: UpIsNowDown

Diet drinks are known to cause serious health issues.

Soft drinks consumed instead of water or non-sugar (unsweet tea and club-soda type) drinks make people fat, which causes serious health issues.


The only issue I see is that the big fatsos don't want to be "shamed" via their pocketbooks like they want to "shame" other people. "Vice tax." One size fits all.
Kinda.

Since when did it becomes government's role to protect people from themselves?

If someone else drinks soda becomes a "big fatso," how are your personal rights impacted?

a reply to: mobiusmale

But the mayor has updated the plan after the staff of the mayor’s office told him that the tax would actually disproportionately fall on poor minorities, who have higher rates of soda consumption than white residents.

Hmmm... might the consumption of those drinks be part of the reason for the "disparity" between the city's white students and the minorities? Corn syrup, lab created chemical sweeteners and "flavors", artificial colors... none of these are the beverage of choice for people looking to nourish their brains.

Aside from that, it's Seattle... proof God has a twisted sense of humor: gorgeous part of the planet, abundant salmon, elk, natural beauty, all populated by some of the best examples of dumb found in the developed world.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
Am I reading this right? The soda tax is meant to even up disparity in education, but if there is any inkling of minorities having to fund it then they have to alter it so white people have to pay?

This is the mayor of the town from whence the song "Hunger Strike" came.

They don't mind stealing bread from the mouth of decadence.

..But his cup is already overfilled.

Seems to be wealthier folks drink less soda than poorer folks. They're better educated and know soda is terrible for you, generally live a healthier lifestyle as they can afford gym memberships, and are less likely to stop by fast food joints for crap food and soda as they can afford higher quality food.

I actually don't know many wealthy or well off people who drink soda regularly.

Just announce. The mayor will NOT be running for re-election. This is in contrast to what he said a few weeks ago, but more sex allegations have come his way since then.