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Strange Mummies From Nazca Studied By Medical Team

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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 05:27 AM
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originally posted by: Heliocentric
I did a search on Hilbert Sumire Bustincio. He is no longer registered in the R.N.A (which simply means he doesn't work as an archaeologist under the Ministry of Culture), he's registered as a Tour Guide at the Machu Picchu Foundation. He still does archaeological work through the Inkari Institute.


I read the Peruvian requirements for excavations/digs and even if private you have to be registered with the Peruvian government, both national and international archaelogists. Busticio and Merino are not. This means that if the Inkari institute is doing excavations they are doing so with illegal staff members. How can you trust anything they say?



The important thing though IMO isn't whether their diplomas are in order, but to know if they corroborate Jamin's story. Because, if Dr. Vivanco and the other three MDs who participated in the studies corroborate it, plus all the members of the Inkari Institute (we already know that Edward Valenzuela Gil corroborate Jamin, because he says so in a video made with Jamin, by himself: www.youtube.com...), then suddenly the great hoax conspiracy has grown from Thierry Jamin and cooky Paul to all of them plus Jaime Maussan, the National Geographic Channel and god knows how many people, perhaps even the Illuminati and the Reptilians are in on it.

Or, they're telling the truth.


The thing is, the archaelogists employed by the Inkari institute are, for some reason, not registered anywhere. This is most likely because they are either not real archaelogists (thus lying) or they are hiding something. You cannot trust people like this.



I tell you what. If you go back to Dr. Vivanco and quiz him


Quiz him? What's the point? The only way I could trust his word is if he proves them by allowing a fair and unbiased replication of his findings. Only then I will believe him.






originally posted by: dragonridr

The x rays make it very clear that who ever put that thing together didnt know alot about anatomy.


Yep, no translation needed when you know basic anatomy! lol





originally posted by: Heliocentric
Albert had a fracture in the right hip. At some point in his life, a metal prosthetic implant was surgically installed (!). This was not visible to the naked eye, but appeared in the x-rays. The metal is described by the MDs and Jamin as an unknown, opalescent/silver colored metal. Analysis of this piece is under way.


Pls post the x-ray picture so we can discuss it. Thanks.




posted on May, 16 2017 @ 12:35 PM
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This photo taken at Thierry Jamin''s house aka Inkari Institute shows the small model of the
alleged alien mummy, the same piece that Paul Ronceros showed since the beguinning 2006
and now revealed is a fabricated model made with animal parts etc. The two individuals that
appear here are: The infamous Jose de la Cruz Rios, the one involved in the " Alien Slides "
scandalous hoax therefore zero credibility to this fellow. The other one is no other than also
infamous Jose Salce who " $$$Validated$$$ " the Alien Slides, an embarrassement episode in
this guy's life therefore zero credibility to this " Doctor for Sale " individual.


In this video both Jose Salce and Jose de la Cruz Rios show to the press reporters the alleged
small alien head but ONLY the exterior of it distracting the attention of what is really inside
of this head. Now check what is really this head, what is inside and how it was made.


Now be adviced that this guy defending Thierry Jamin will deny all that I just showed and will
try desesperately in a usless effort to sustain this piece of crap story as authentic. Don''t get
deceived by rhetorical arguments, demand evidences with scientific rigor.
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posted on May, 16 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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Photo of Salce and De la Cruz showing the head to the reporters but only the exterior not what is inside
for obvous reasons. What a pair of cheaters.



posted on May, 17 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: Agartha

I read the Peruvian requirements for excavations/digs and even if private you have to be registered with the Peruvian government, both national and international archaelogists. Busticio and Merino are not. This means that if the Inkari institute is doing excavations they are doing so with illegal staff members. How can you trust anything they say?


You must have read it wrong, or you misunderstood the information.

In Peru, if a non-governmental organization (such as a foreign or national university, research institute or similar) wish to perform an excavation, the Director of the project must present it to the Ministry of Culture. If it gets approved, a co-Director from the Ministry of Culture will be assigned to the project. The co-Director's role is to supervise the work and make sure that it corresponds with Peruvian standards and regulations for an archaeological excavation. He/she has the power to shut down a dig if these requirements are not met.
The approval of an archaeological excavation project depends on a number of factors. I could imagine that if an institute such as the Smithsonian applied for an archaeological project, it would pass without to many issues, whereas if a less distinguished project was presented it would be looked at with more scrutiny. I do not know how thoroughly the Ministry of Culture vets the projects, but I do not think they would let pass a bunch of inexperienced people with fake diplomas - which makes it even stranger that Thierry Jamin and the Inkari Institute have had several excavation/archaeological projects approved by the Ministry of Culture. Right?

The individual participants in a project (archaeologists, geologists, anthropologists, pottery experts, etc ) do not need to be registered to the Ministry of Culture. There are therefore a number of free-floating archaeologists working in Peru that do not figure in the R.N.A register.
I did however stop by the local Archaeological Department in Pisac (an archaeological site and town 39 km outside of Cusco) yesterday and talked to the archaeologists there. It took us 5 minutes to track down Hilbert Sumire Bustincio - who as I said is registered but has not renewed his registration recently.
I have however no info on Daniel Ángel Merino Panizo - who seems something of a mystery. I will confront either him or Thierry Jamin with the lack of verifiable data on his CV as soon as opportunity presents itself.

That said, absence of proof is not proof of absence.

I do not expect you to believe anything I say, so I will refer you and your questions to Lic. Richard Alegria, Dean of Colegio de Arqueólogos del Cusco. You can either contact him through his Facebook page, or PM me and I will send you his professional telephone number.

es-la.facebook.com...


originally posted by: Agartha
The thing is, the archaelogists employed by the Inkari institute are, for some reason, not registered anywhere. This is most likely because they are either not real archaelogists (thus lying) or they are hiding something. You cannot trust people like this.


Let me ask you a personal question. Have you ever told a lie in your life? Because if you have - according to your twisted logic that if one thing is a lie then everything is a lie - I can draw the conclusion that everything you say is a lie.

You're really grasping for straws if you think that by proving inconsistencies in the CVs of the Inkari members, you have proven that the videos I posted in this threads are fake. This is really low-level pseudo debunking.

Here's what a good investigator would do. He/she would contact Dr. Vivanco (and the other MDs who figures in the videos) and ask him/them to corroborate the information relayed by the videos. If he/they do corroborate that the videos are authentic, it doesn't matter if the Inkari Institute is legit or not.

The question is, WHAT ARE THESE MUMMIES - AUTHENTICATED BY FOUR PERUVIAN MDs?

That is the topic of this thread. Nothing else.


originally posted by: Agartha


Quiz him (Dr.Vivanco)? What's the point? The only way I could trust his word is if he proves them by allowing a fair and unbiased replication of his findings. Only then I will believe him.


Then why did you visit his Facebook page in the first place, if what he's saying has no relevance?

As soon as you visited Dr. Vivanco's Facebook page and realized that he stands by the information in the videos, you got cold feet and decided not to talk to him.

You're more interested in saving your face then finding out the truth.


originally posted by: Agartha
Pls post the x-ray picture so we can discuss it. Thanks.


Why don't you do it yourself?

The X-rays are floating around on the net.

I went to the Department of Archaeology for you yesterday, you haven't talked to Dr. Vivanco yet.

They do however appear in this video towards the end:

www.youtube.com...
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posted on May, 17 2017 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: free_spirit

Whatever.

I don't think you and I are going to see eye to eye about much anything concerning this.

I've done what I can to give you additional information to follow up on.

You're treating perhaps 5% of the total material available to you, cherry-picking out of context info and squeezing it into your preconceived notion of a hoax.

The clock is ticking. The C-14 and the DNA samples are being analyzed as we speak. Jaime Maussan, National Geographic Channel, Gaia TV, a Japanese and a British TV team have already conducted their own investigations. Maussan and NatGeo have paid for their own C-14 and DNA tests. The results will be presented in mid-June, as said.


originally posted by: free_spirit
Now check what is really this head, what is inside and how it was made.



Yes please tell us what's inside and how it was made.

Is it your opinion that we should trust your guess work from watching a Youtube video over a scientific analysis made by four MDs?



posted on May, 17 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

Did Argatha ever pm you or did she just troll the OP?
I find your willingness to provide sources commendable

I'm can't tell, but there feels like there is something real about these artifacts.
If that is the remnants of tissue that is peeled back from the skull, then C14 and DNA could be obtained.
Since this has been a while, are any of the results back yet? Perhaps The University of Georgia could help out in the C14
identification?
ETA: just read your above post. June then, OK.
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posted on May, 17 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: Violater1
a reply to: Heliocentric

Did Argatha ever pm you or did she just troll the OP?
I find your willingness to provide sources commendable

I'm can't tell, but there feels like there is something real about these artifacts.
If that is the remnants of tissue that is peeled back from the skull, then C14 and DNA could be obtained.
Since this has been a while, are any of the results back yet? Perhaps The University of Georgia could help out in the C14
identification?
ETA: just read your above post. June then, OK.



Whether these mummified remains are real or not will not be decided in this thread, of course. It will be decided by continuous scientific studies.

I will continue to relay the information as it comes in, and there is a LOT more to this that has not yet been disclosed in this thread.

I cannot say if that is skin tissue being peeled back in the video. Let me add that in the investigative analysis performed by the four MDs, cotton and hemp fibers was found within some of the remains. It's important to add that these are mummified remains. Interior organs have been removed, embalming techniques have been applied and some of the remains have been propped and re-worked by the embalmers.
This is what free_spirit confuses for a hoax.

We find the oldest known practice of mummification in this part of South America. The Cinchorro culture (Northern Chile - Southern Peru) mummified bodies 2000 years before the Egyptians.

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posted on May, 17 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric


I do not expect you to believe anything I say


Correct, I need good evidence, not hearsay.


Here's what a good investigator would do. He/she would contact Dr. Vivanco (and the other MDs who figures in the videos) and ask him/them to corroborate the information relayed by the videos. If he/they do corroborate that the videos are authentic, it doesn't matter if the Inkari Institute is legit or not.


No, I told you, I need evidence, only Dr Vivanco's evidence can corroborate what he says. Not his words. And evidence can only become reliable when it's replicated.


As soon as you visited Dr. Vivanco's Facebook page and realized that he stands by the information in the videos, you got cold feet and decided not to talk to him.

You're more interested in saving your face then finding out the truth.


Save my face? LOL this is not my project, I just can't stand snake oil salesmen and until proven wrong there is more evidence of this being a hoax than being real.

But please, do prove me wrong.








originally posted by: Violater1
a reply to: Heliocentric

Did Argatha ever pm you or did she just troll the OP?


hahaha anybody with a basic knowledge of anatomy can see the xrays make no sense. So spotting errors that suggest they are fake and asking for evidence is now trolling?

You and me have very different scientific standards, I see.




posted on May, 17 2017 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: Heliocentric

originally posted by: Violater1
a reply to: Heliocentric

Did Argatha ever pm you or did she just troll the OP?


hahaha anybody with a basic knowledge of anatomy can see the xrays make no sense. So spotting errors that suggest they are fake and asking for evidence is now trolling?

You and me have very different scientific standards, I see.



Different scientific standards. I see.
I started in the medical field in June of 1977. So let’s us some scientific standards.
When setting up your x-ray, what kVp, G, and speed would you use to look at the jaw?
youtu.be...
How would that differ in a Pa/Lat for the pelvis?
youtu.be...
I have probably seen more radiological studies in a month than most would see in a life time.
Do I have questions about the x-rays, yes.
I wasn’t there, but I am willing to wait a few more months to review what the C14 and and DNA results. After all, the public is just finding out about the reality of the newly released patents on the TR-3B
Why haven't you pm'ed and obtained the telephone number that the OP is willing to give you. Call the guy and ask him your self. Or maybe your mommy won't give you the money for an International phone call.
Trolls will always demand sources, but when given to them, they always find an excuse to not follow through or they change the subject to something else.
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posted on May, 18 2017 @ 06:00 AM
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originally posted by: Violater1
Different scientific standards. I see.
I started in the medical field in June of 1977. So let’s us some scientific standards.
When setting up your x-ray, what kVp, G, and speed would you use to look at the jaw?
How would that differ in a Pa/Lat for the pelvis?


I am not a radiologists and doctors don't know how to take x-rays, that's what you have radiologists for.
Doctors interpret them.


I have probably seen more radiological studies in a month than most would see in a life time.
Do I have questions about the x-rays, yes.
I wasn’t there,


It's not just about not having been there, it's about how fake they are: that little 'alien' has a head that couldn't be supported with such small neck and has no vertebrae! If you had medical training as you said, how can you believe a being can move and walk and turn without vertebrae???

The clavicle is also not linked to any other bone.... how can you use your arms if its bones are floating?




but I am willing to wait a few more months to review what the C14 and and DNA results. After all, the public is just finding out about the reality of the newly released patents on the TR-3B


And I am willing to wait for the replication of the results.


Why haven't you pm'ed and obtained the telephone number that the OP is willing to give you. Call the guy and ask him your self. Or maybe your mommy won't give you the money for an International phone call.


Because a stranger's voice on the phone will not be evidence for anything. Even children know you cannot trust any strangers online or on the phone. Only replication of the results can confirm their studies. And I can't believe you don't see that, having had medical training. Health professionals only work with evidence based science.


Trolls will always demand sources, but when given to them, they always find an excuse to not follow through or they change the subject to something else.


hahaha I don't just demand any sources, I demand credible sources which so far have not been posted.



posted on May, 18 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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I would personally like to focus on the investigation of the mummified remains and the investigation of Mario - who is the central character in all of this, not Thierry Jamin or Paul.

It's important to state that from an archaeological point of view, objects or remains that are removed from their archaeological context cannot be understood properly. In this case, the remains are difficult to place in a a cultural context. We need to access the supposed tomb complex in order to understand more.

All the descriptions we have of this tomb complex comes from Mario, and the information is often relayed by Jamin. Some of the more exotic descriptions of his experiences in the complex may indicate that Mario has a vivid imagination. For instance, Mario claims that while penetrating into the tunnel system, he has heard sounds and seen shapes move further in. The two deceased tomb robbers apparently died shortly after chasing one of these 'apparitions' in the tunnels.
He claims that he has found three doors in the complex, blocking of parts of it. He has so far not tried to pass these doors.
He claims that a giant skeleton head sticks out of one of the walls, and he believes that the whole skeleton is there, in the wall.
He claims (as already said) that electronic devices do not work in the complex (including cameras of course), and he claims that while all of the four tomb robbers were still alive, they experienced a 4 hour missing time episode when they sat down for a brake.

While these tales will set off alarm bells to many (including me) - and of course fuel free_spirits theory of a grand hoax - we still have these mummified remains sold to the Inkari Institute - supposedly from the tomb complex. They weren't made in a toy factory in China. They've been authenticated as genuine by four MDs (one of them a bone specialist) and other experts (NatGeo brought a team of specialists to rule out a hoax and they passed. That study is however copyrighted by NatGeo and will be released by the channel).
In Mario's defense it could be said that he sometimes deliver observations that may seem confusing, but not to an archaeologist. The discovery of the tomb complex was apparently preceded by the discovery of two tombs, placed each at one side of the tomb entrance. Mario dug out the two tombs and found them to be Inka period tombs. While the tomb complex seems much older to him (he thinks Wari culture), he speculates that the Inkas knew about the complex and performed a ritual protection of the site, sacrificing two men to guard the entrance in the afterlife.
Mario also report the presence of Spondylus in the tomb, a red thorny oyster shell that pre-Columbean Andine civilisations valued highly in ceremonial practice, and according to some Andean mythology was the 'food of the gods'.
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posted on May, 18 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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Well this is funny. This guy is now praising the tomb robber, the huaquero, a delinquent, a criminal that makes a living by doing illegal activities, a thief that he calls " Mario " who should be in jail. Anyone associated with this tomb robber " Mario " is an accomplice, anyone who deals, buy things and promotes this criminal " Mario " according to the law is also a delinquent. It doesn't matter if it is National Geographic or any other group, this case comes from a criminal tomb robber, an unscrupulous villain creator of this scam.

So now according to this guy everything is about " Mario " the others are irrelevant, REALLY ?
And to praise this scumbag " Mario " this guy now writes a long long long message using all his
boring demagogue trying to convince someone that a delinquent tomb robber has something
valuable to say. You may ask why this guy who surely belongs to the Inkari Insitute and works
as Thierry Jamin's puppet is now focusing in the negligible tomb robber " Mario " praising him
as the absolutely leader and main character of this charade, the only one with real value in
this cartoon tale and yet...... this "Mario " is not showing his face because he is a criminal
hiding himself from the law, doing his illegal deals in the dark, you see what a mean?

THIS IS A FACT: The negligible tomb robber " Mario " ( Surely a nickname like all criminals
like to use) is a criminal that should be in jail. There's no excuse no extenuating or justification
for this tomb robber "Mario " . All the ones involved, associated, related to " Mario " the tomb robber
are also accomplices or partners in crime according to the law for buying stolen materials and make
profits. Who is defending "Mario " now ? Think about it.
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posted on May, 18 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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Hilarious. Looks like bones cobbled together in an attempt to create a human-like form using two chicken bones as a spine:

Appears to be amateur night at the artist colony:



posted on May, 19 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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Don't you have anything else to do in life than pick on me?


originally posted by: free_spirit
Well this is funny. This guy is now praising the tomb robber,

Am I? Do you care to indicate the exact passage where I praise him? Please, I would like to know.

I did however say this:


originally posted by: Heliocentric
Yes, Mario is a criminal. I'm divided on the question, and I know Thierry Jamin is too. At the one hand, Mario is an individual who seems to care only about money. He destroys a rich and fascinating Peruvian cultural heritage and should be taken out of action.


And this:


originally posted by: Heliocentric
It's important to state that from an archaeological point of view, objects or remains that are removed from their archaeological context cannot be understood properly.


Which means that I'm strictly against any type of unauthorized excavation or pillage of archaeological remains - by Mario or anyone else. Is it sufficiently clear for you?


originally posted by: free_spirit
So now according to this guy everything is about " Mario " the others are irrelevant, REALLY ?


Yes, REALLY. This whole thing is about Mario and his assistant, the only two people who know where the mummified remains come from. Thierry Jamin doesn't know. Paul Ronceros doesn't know, Jaime Maussan doesn't know, I don't know.

Why are you even writing about Mario? You have - since your first post in this thread - been obsessively convinced of a hoax created by Paul Ronceros.

Here's a reminder:


originally posted by: free_spirit
THE ARQUITECTS OF THE MUMMIES FROM PERU HOAX

The creator: German Paul Ronceros Fernandez, the one and only creator of this hoax back in 2015.


If Paul Ronceros is the one and only creator of this hoax, then who is Mario? According to your hoax scenario, he shouldn't even exist.

If he doesn't exist, why spend your poorly invested intellectual efforts in denouncing a criminal that does not even exist?

If he does exist, does that mean your hoax plot is changing?


originally posted by: free_spirit
THIS IS A FACT: The negligible tomb robber " Mario " ( Surely a nickname like all criminals
like to use) is a criminal that should be in jail.


Um, yes it seems that he exists to you, at least enough to whine about him.

I would like to add that Thierry Jamin's site 'The Alien Project' now exists (since yesterday) in an English version (not too soon). The videos posted so far are still in French or Spanish though:

www.the-alien-project.com...
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posted on May, 19 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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Does it really matter who said what or who someone is?

The bare bones (ahem) of the matter are how the objects in all three videos look home-made and faked.

This one is bloody awful. Mute the sound and watch it again.



posted on May, 20 2017 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Well, we've already had a few armchair X-ray experts cast their verdicts in this thread so far, still they've failed to state anything conclusive other than it 'looks fake'.

The four MDs that actually studied the remains had lots more to say about it and explained in detail what they found. Such as a bone disease in the 60 cm tall complete mummy (which in their professional opinion is an intact - not altered - mummy), that it was not fully grown and has a metal implant in the upper right hip.

I expect the forthcoming data (C-14/DNA) to give us more to go on, as would finding the location where these remains comes from. But thanks for your valuable input.




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posted on May, 20 2017 @ 06:44 AM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

I don't want to sound like I'm being disrespectful here. It's not intentional if it comes across that way.

What I don't get is how you can look at the objects and not feel complete, certain disbelief. Take away the dramatic music and ignore the 'authority' of these 'MDs.' Those critters do not look real. They don't conform to anything in nature either. That doesn't therefore follow that they must be real because they look fake. They're just fake.



A very basic understanding of structure and skeletons tells us the 2nd critter (iirc) wouldn't have been able to move or stand upright. Prehensile feet? No upright primate has ever had prehensile feet. They don't go along with the vertebrae or hip structure of upright hominids. In evolutionary terms, our hips altered as we became more upright and our prehensile feet changed at the same time to what we see now.

Their critter has no ankles, no knuckles in the toes and no sign of muscles in either the foot or the lower leg. It doesn't even have a heel bone which is one reason why I mentioned it being unable to stand upright.

I think the error is evidence of a lack of education in whoever created the object. Details like these ought to be foremost in the minds of the good doctors who are testifying that there's DNA and x-ray evidence. That certainly suggests the 'MDs' are part of the promotion of the objects.

There's an AMerican MD called Steven Greer who pushed very similar things as 'aliens.' He's a notorious faker and I only mention him to say not all MDs are honest.

I'm not going to harass and pester you to change your mind. We've all got a soft spot for something others don't believe in and I respect that. I can't imagine how you can look at the objects without them seeming so obviously fake. Each to their own though.


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posted on May, 20 2017 @ 06:59 AM
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What I don't get is how you can look at the objects and not feel complete, certain disbelief. Take away the dramatic music and ignore the 'authority' of these 'MDs.' Those critters do not look real. They don't conform to anything in nature either. That doesn't therefore follow that they must be real because they look fake. They're just fake.


cause he wants to believe, and no matter what he is shown or presented like the guy admitting to making them, or even his boy saying they are fabricated. will change his mind, he is gonna believe when the other test come back saying they are less than a few years old. then it will be that all the handling by people threw the dating and DNA off or some bs such as that. OP is just irrational in his belief and faith in this phony.


ETA: that image you added looks like bad claymation
.
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posted on May, 20 2017 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Hey we've all gotta dream


My soft spot has been UFOs. I have to leave my high horse in the stable nowadays lest it bites me on the ass



posted on May, 20 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Heliocentric

I don't want to sound like I'm being disrespectful here. It's not intentional if it comes across that way.

What I don't get is how you can look at the objects and not feel complete, certain disbelief. Take away the dramatic music and ignore the 'authority' of these 'MDs.' Those critters do not look real.


Thank you for not being disrespectful, I prefer to talk things through without trading insults.

Disbelief and doubts has followed me around since I first started to receive information about this story - more than 8 months ago.
I thought at the time that this would soon go away, that it was a hoax of some sorts and that the hoax bubble would burst.

Thierry Jamin was more or less of the same opinion in the beginning. He was intrigued by these strange remains and artefacts (there are a lot more than you've seen so far), but the whole thing looked like a hoax and walked like a hoax - like a badly made hoax. Much thanks to Paul Ronceros, who has issued conflicting information and does in no way inspire confidence.

The thing is, the scant information Jamin had to go on panned out. Paul put Jamin in contact with Mario the tomb robber, and he turned out to be the real deal. I had nothing to do with this, but I realized after a while that I knew who Mario was - in effect a tomb robber known in certain circles of Peruvian archaeology. I tracked him down on Facebook and popped some questions. I was able to verify the info Mario was giving and triangulate it with the info coming from Paul and Jamin.

I then knew that Thierry Jamin wasn't making things up.

In November 2016, Jamin submitted the first samples of remains to the MDs in Cusco, you already know the outcome of those studies. It was a game changer, we now know that these are real mummified remains (whatever they are).

Some really wild stories were coming from Mario and I still don't know if he's telling the truth.

But I know he has found a location - and that remains and different types of artefacts are coming out of this location. What exactly they are is not up to me to decide. Whether they look fake or not must IMO be put aside - the scientific data they deliver is the only thing that counts.

Jaime Maussan got wind of the story and contacted Jamin. Maussan has connections and soon NatGeo channel plus some other TV producers plus unnamed Russian and Japanese researchers joined Jamin. Together they all went to Nazca and met with Mario - who showed them everything he had brought out of the supposed tomb complex so far.

During this meeting - that was filmed by a number of TV crews - something happened that led Jamin and Maussan to believe this is all ET related. Jamin has been very tight lipped about this incident - he claims disclosure agreements with Maussan and NatGeo prevents him from talking right now.

Personally - in spite of the strange physics of some of the remains - I am not convinced of the ET hypothesis unless some tangible data tells me so.
I'm perfectly happy with this being some type of unknown indigenous species or mutated human remains. An off-shot branch of humans is also possible - after all we've found two formerly unknown species of humans (Homo denisova and Homo floresiensis) in the last twenty years. Why not a third one?
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