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Strange Mummies From Nazca Studied By Medical Team

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posted on Jul, 30 2017 @ 05:58 AM
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All the alterations, mutilations and mixtures of the mentioned skeletons have a clear intention of scam


I've read the news article posted by Free_Spirit and Peru's archaeological experts have voiced the same views expressed throughout this (and other) threads. They say it's all a hoax and that the mummies are constructed by bones from animals and humans that 'don't correspond to each other.'


The so-called Ronceros alien mummies are made of bone remains of humans and animals, in most cases mixed. The result is beings of humanoid appearance without any natural anatomical organization because the bones do not correspond between them. The human remains used are apparently archaeological.
Source

They point out that the human remains are genuine and underscore the serious problem of grave-robbery. Here's what they say about the three-fingered frauds...


From the x-rays that can be seen in the video, the whole skeleton of this mummy is made up of human bones. Even the feet and hands, which have only three long fingers, are formed of human metaphors and phalanges. The fact that this mummy has only three fingers and that the bones that make up these fingers are exactly the same as those of a human who has five fingers, has no evolutionary sense. If this creature had evolved three fingers, there would be other anatomical changes in the bones of the arms, hands, legs and feet, all these changes associated with the evolution of three fingers. None of this happens in the skeleton. Instead, they lack the cuboid tarsal bone and apparently the external fingers. This mummy is an archaeological mummy to which two fingers have been removed and the number of phalanges increased to the remaining three fingers.


More interestingly the authors end with a call for intervention. It looks like the hoaxers and grave robbers might be getting a knock on the door from the authorities.



It is very dangerous to continue to lie about it on television and without consulting real specialists to confirm everything that is said. The archaeological zone of Nasca is being endangered, as it might want to be visited by enthusiastic believers in search of more alien mummies that could damage and / or destroy real archaeological remains of the Paracas and Nasca cultures. Not specifying the exact location and context in which these remains were found, not only is it left in latent danger that huaqueros can try to search and dig where their imagination takes them, but also, the finding loses its potential value Suspicious of its origin.

We urge the Ministry of Culture to take action on the matter to safeguard the archaeological heritage of the nation.




posted on Jul, 30 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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originally posted by: free_spirit

MORE FACTS TO BE CONSIDERED:
Paul Ronceros: The small beings are armed.
Maussan: The small beings are armed
Thierry Jamin: Some small beings and the head are armed
In this phone conversation between Maussan and Paul Ronceros they both agree and
accept that the small bodies, mummies, beings etc. are armed. The rest of the
conversation is irrelevant, 100 % BS.


Did you run out of revelations about Mario? I'm almost disappointed...

Note how free_spirit once again avoids responding to the challenge that his hoax scenario has changed, while pretending like it didn't.

Here is his first statement in this thread:



originally posted by: free_spiritThe alleged alien mummies from Nazca Peru is a HOAX created by a certain individual from Peru named German Paul Ronceros Fernandez aka krawitx999



A hoax created by Paul Ronceros... who is apparently no longer running the hoax. But according to free_spirit the hoax has now been picked up by other malevolent people such as Thierry Jamin and the Inkari Institute, about seven MDs, surgeons and radiologists in the Cusco region, Konstantin Korotkov and his team from the University of St Petersburg, Jaime Maussan and the Tercer Milenio Tv channel, Gaia TV and their staff, Nurea TV (France) and their staff, plus some other people, and me of course. All in all more than 50 people directly involved...

To this, I replied:

No, not at all. Paul was one of the first persons that one of the surviving tomb robbers - called 'Mario' by Thierry Jamin - turned to after discovering the tomb complex, knowing of his great interest in UFOs and aliens. Paul then contacted Jamin, hoping he could throw some additional weight into the whole thing and evaluate the remains and objects coming out of the Nazca tomb complex.

To this, free_spirit replied:


originally posted by: free_spirit THE ARQUITECTS OF THE MUMMIES FROM PERU HOAX The creator: German Paul Ronceros Fernandez, the one and only creator of this hoax back in 2015. He has the " Parts " in his possesion in 2016 as an official depositary and began promoting the story in October 2016 on Youtube and his website. Make no mistake, Paul Ronceros is the guilty one who created the hoax and invented such a tale of " extraterrestial mummies ".



The message is clear. Paul Ronceros is the ONE AND ONLY CREATOR OF THIS HOAX. free_spirit is as always driven by certitudes. There is nothing unclear to him in this story. Paul is the man behind the hoax.

But wait a minute, Paul Ronceros is no longer the hoax master (and what more is, he now claims someone else made him make the videos), so why are there new mummies turning up, and more and more people getting involved?

Did someone else start making fake mummies, and in that case, are they made in the same way or with a different technique/materials, or what's up with that? Maybe we should ask Ectoplams8, our plaster and chicken bone mummy expert.

Or could there be someone else behind it all, such as Mario?

In any case, free_spirit is now trying to convince us of his new beta version hoax scenario - ie what Thierry Jamin has been saying from the start, that one or two of the really small figures of Paul Ronceros seems to have been anatomically altered (probably by the embalmers that prepared and buried the bodies, which was Paul Roncero's suggestion from the start), and tries to spin it as evidence of a hoax.
Then he uses Jaime Maussan to support it - a person he normally denounces as completely fraudulent and non-credible.


originally posted by: free_spirit
It is so regrettable that this case full of lies, hoaxes,false evidences for false claims has
been around these months. It is also a case full of felonies by common delinquents and
that is a fact, illegal activities of the Huaqueros, tomb robbers and the ones who are
making deals with them specially this one known as " Mario ". And who are the ones
promoting and supporting this " Mario " ' We all know who they are and will be judged


So apparently there is a Mario, who is a tomb robber involved in illegal activities.

Thank you for corroborating my version free_spirit!

Too bad you're not big enough to admit it.


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posted on Jul, 30 2017 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky

All the alterations, mutilations and mixtures of the mentioned skeletons have a clear intention of scam


I've read the news article posted by Free_Spirit and Peru's archaeological experts have voiced the same views expressed throughout this (and other) threads. They say it's all a hoax and that the mummies are constructed by bones from animals and humans that 'don't correspond to each other.']


So have I.

They're repeating the official statement issued by the Ministry of Culture (mixed in with concerns that 'real' mummies have been used to create 'fakes', as expressed by the Regional Director of the Ministry in Nazca, Johny Isla). It's the normal thing to do.

None of the people behind this site have participated in the scientific studies of the dehydrated bodies organized by the Inkari Institute, or the studies performed by the researchers contracted by Tercer Milenio or Gaia TV. I know that, because I know what studies have been made and who participated in them. They are therefore interpreting this thing through Youtube videos and pictures posted on social networks, like you are.

Peru's archaeological experts aren't all voicing the same thing, as you stated. There are many archaeologists that demand an unbiased investigation of this affair.

Governments and governmental institutions are sometimes wrong, which unfortunately is the case here.

It is where web sites such as ATS come into the picture and have a function to fill. Wouldn't you agree?


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posted on Jul, 30 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: free_spirit

originally posted by: free_spirit

originally posted by: free_spirit
In this photo taken by Maussan in Palpa, Peru you can see the elusive " Mario " along with
a friend, both tomb robbers ( Huaqueros ) where they have a meeting. If you notice on
the upper section of the photo there is a yellow sport car parked that belongs to " Mario "
according to my source. To the right there it is, the yellow sport car and his owner posing
to the camera.

To the left a frame from the video showing " Mario " during an interview and some photos
from the album.


MORE INFORMATION - Back in 2010 the peruvian police arrested an individual for illegaly
trafficking with mummies parts, his name was Benedicto Rivera Sarmiento (Memorize
the name) who belonged to a band of tomb robbers (Huaqueros) already identified.


And guess who this " Lea " tomb robber is? No other than the same owner of the yellow
sport car interviewed by Maussan in Palpa as I showed. This is " Lea 's " social channel
where he signs as Lea Lea, there he is with his yellow sport car.


More to come.

MORE FACTS TO BE CONSIDERED:
Paul Ronceros: The small beings are armed.
Maussan: The small beings are armed
Thierry Jamin: Some small beings and the head are armed
In this phone conversation between Maussan and Paul Ronceros they both agree and
accept that the small bodies, mummies, beings etc. are armed. The rest of the
conversation is irrelevant, 100 % BS.

What is the meaning of these statements by the two main characters of this colossal
fraud ? Very simple. After all the loud claims, tales of extraterrestrial mummies showing
small figures affirming they were "" Gray alien type dead beings ", after all the shouting
and gossip it turned out that these small bodies were armed, fabricated with animal and
fabric parts among other materials but at the end: artificial man made dolls.
The infamous opportunist swindler Thierry Jamin recognized and accepted the small
beings were armed, this during a conversation with Maussan some months ago, see here:

Of course the logic conclusion is: If the small bodies claimed to be alien mummies and
also the small head are artificially armed or should I say fabricated then the rest of the
pieces now in dispute must be from the same origin and type given the fact that they
have been provided by the same infamous delinquent, tomb robber, criminal etc known
as "Mario " provider for Ronceros, Maussan and Therry Jamin. It makes sense now and they
recognized on camera that the beings were armed, not alien anymore.

It is so regrettable that this case full of lies, hoaxes,false evidences for false claims has
been around these months. It is also a case full of felonies by common delinquents and
that is a fact, illegal activities of the Huaqueros, tomb robbers and the ones who are
making deals with them specially this one known as " Mario ". And who are the ones
promoting and supporting this " Mario " ' We all know who they are and will be judged
as accessory to felony.

Here is the response of the Peruvian Scientific Community to this monumental fraud.
It is titled: Fraud that encourages illegal excavations and destruction of the national
archaeological heritage
www.cientificos.pe...

TO BE CONTINUED

And who is Edson Salazar Vivanco, many times mentioned here by you know who
as a doctor who " examined the alleged alien mummies " since the beginning of
this cheap sci-fi story, the individual who was referred as a reliable source to
validate the argument of a real mummy supposedly of alien origin ?

The infamous Edson Salazar Vivanco many times praised by you know who is a
simple doctor not specialized who was recruited by Maussan under a payroll to
make the statements Maussan needed, in one word a paid doctor instructed to
lie, this has been proven now. Do you remember at the beginning the so much
publicized small mummy of alleged alien origin presented by hoaxer Paul Ronceros
last year and later taken by swindler Thierry Jamin as the flag of his new fraud
campaign ? Now that Maussan and Ronceros revealed the small bodies are armed
they involuntarily ( Or just because they are so dumb ) debunked the original
statements and examination results of this small humanoid shaped armed doll
that Edson Salazar Vivanco claimed it was a real mummy surely of alien origin
blah blah blah. It is now proven that Edson Salazar Vivanco is a liar charlatan
ready to say anything in exchange for a good amount of money, he knew at that
time that the small alleged alien mummy was a fake and made a whole charade
on camera, what a cynical negligible guy, a shame to the medical profession.
Watch this and see what I'm talking about:

It is in debate the origin of Edson Salazar Vivanco, some say he is from Bolivia
while others say he is peruvian. For me it is irrelevant where was he born.
And to confirm that this cheap doctor Edson Salazar Vivanco performed fake
medical analysis the original hoaxer Paul Ronceros publicly denounced that
the alleged medical examination and analysis by Edson Salazar were fakes.
What do you think ? From the horse's mouth is certainly a revelation don't you
agree ? Check the denounce here:

CONCLUSION: This individual named Edson Salazar Vivanco is just a crook, a
disgrace to the medical profession. Many times praised by the individual who
started this thread the same way he praised many times the criminal "Mario"
promoting and supporting the criminal activities of this infamous huaquero
in this extremely deplorable fraud case that has now detonated a real boom
among the tomb robbers in Peru like an uncontrollable Mania. Don't believe
anything this individual say, he's reacting extremely pissed off to all that I
have been informing here as denouncements with evidences because he is
desesperately trying to cover up sensitive informations and facts, he is not
acting honestly covering up the identity of his idol " Mario " but now that
the identity has been revealed the poor guy reacted saying: " Oh well it's
not new, is public domain ". What a cynical individual but what can you
expect of an accesory to a felony.
MORE TO COME



posted on Jul, 30 2017 @ 12:35 PM
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What a shocker. You're sticking to the story and you appear to be suggesting you have some kind of insider status with them. Is that so?

It's entirely possible for experts to look at your x-rays and make deductions. Insisting they cannot without handling the objects is simple bollocks and you know it. Neither does it require physical contact to recognise how obviously fake some of the objects are.

You're telling what's known as a 'grand lie' and expecting people to have tiny doubts about whether you're lying or not. I'm sorry buddy, but you've removed any doubts I had completely.



posted on Jul, 30 2017 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: 311again Sorry, your goofy responses and maturity level has dropped to a point that you're no longer even worthy of acknowledgement.



Didn't know your brain also happens to be made of Plaster Of Paris—it's no wonder then that you find it so very hard to comprehend what you're actually seeing here.


Oh, and BTW, the universe does not care about your opinion...mic drop.




posted on Jul, 30 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric





Peru's archaeological experts aren't all voicing the same thing, as you stated. There are many archaeologists that demand an unbiased investigation of this affair.

Governments and governmental institutions are sometimes wrong, which unfortunately is the case here.

It is where web sites such as ATS come into the picture and have a function to fill. Wouldn't you agree?


I couldn't agree more.

The problem is that the detractors always seem to shy away from anything that happens to consist of any indisputable scientific result from the laboratory testing & instead they spend most of their time using character assassination techniques of one type or another in rather poor attempts to bolster their own pathetically weak evidence. Their absolute refusal to acknowledge the independent scientific results—renders their own so-called evidence totally invalid.

They are locked & trapped in the dungeons of their own disbelief, and they don't know that you hold the very keys to their freedom. It's quite interesting watching them scramble and change their stories midway through trying desperately to keep afloat their ever-sinking ships, however, in the very act of doing so, they only punch ever larger holes in their own ships of doom.

Can't wait for the final DNA test results...




posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 05:22 AM
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originally posted by: 311again
a reply to: Heliocentric





Peru's archaeological experts aren't all voicing the same thing, as you stated. There are many archaeologists that demand an unbiased investigation of this affair.

Governments and governmental institutions are sometimes wrong, which unfortunately is the case here.

It is where web sites such as ATS come into the picture and have a function to fill. Wouldn't you agree?


I couldn't agree more.

The problem is that the detractors always seem to shy away from anything that happens to consist of any indisputable scientific result from the laboratory testing & instead they spend most of their time using character assassination techniques of one type or another in rather poor attempts to bolster their own pathetically weak evidence. Their absolute refusal to acknowledge the independent scientific results—renders their own so-called evidence totally invalid.

They are locked & trapped in the dungeons of their own disbelief, and they don't know that you hold the very keys to their freedom. It's quite interesting watching them scramble and change their stories midway through trying desperately to keep afloat their ever-sinking ships, however, in the very act of doing so, they only punch ever larger holes in their own ships of doom.

Can't wait for the final DNA test results...



It is obvious that you and the OP are buyist to this. The reason why, we do not really know, but it is obvious this is a hoax, and it is obvious that nothing major is going to come out about this.

You have ignored the fact that the x-ray shows that it would be impossible for the person to move properly. You have ignored the fact thst the people involved are known for their fringe science and involvement in hoaxes.

And you have the cheek to mock us for being skeptic, when you know damn well that this is a scam!



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Heliocentric

What a shocker. You're sticking to the story and you appear to be suggesting you have some kind of insider status with them. Is that so?



Yes, I'm sticking to the story. Everything I've told you so far is true (and when I've said something that I later found out wasn't true I've corrected myself), I bet you my 8 year old handle and my honor on it. Had I been sitting here feeding you BS for months I would be an even more pathetic individual than free_spirit. The dehydrated bodies are - to the best of our knowledge - authentic, pre-Columbean bodies and have not been altered in any way.

I say to the best of our knowledge, because the scientific process (in which I'm not implicated) is really learning as we go along. New and better data can override old data and change opinions on the nature of the dehydrated bodies.

This means that up until now, the researchers have not found any whatsoever signs of recent (contemporary) anatomical alteration or interaction with the bodies (which is what they've been looking for since day one), and they've been carbon dated to ages between 1800 BP to 800 BP. Other scientist, universities and research institutes are now asking to either verify or to participate in the studies of the dehydrated bodies, and we all welcome this. Especially the people who appear with their names in relation to the studies, who are insulted, slandered and unjustly discredited (by anonymous individuals such as free_spirit) daily in the media/internet, and who would like to have their lives back.

I've been well positioned up until now, yes, in the sense that I know or have met several of the people involved with the studies of the dehydrated bodies (this will change now, since much of the studies will disperse to foreign laboratories and people I don't know).
I have for instance met and talked to Dr. Edson Salazar Vivanco, the latest target of free_spirit.


originally posted by: free_spirit

It is in debate the origin of Edson Salazar Vivanco, some say he is from Bolivia
while others say he is peruvian. For me it is irrelevant where was he born.


Dr. Edson Salazar Vivanco is born in Cusco by Peruvian parents and is therefore a Peruvian citizen. He has done his medical studies at the Medical Faculty of UDABOL University in Bolivia.

Had you done any type of source checking before posting, you would have known that. But you've never been very interested in fact checking, most of the stuff you cut and paste off the internet is just made up.


originally posted by: Kandinsky
It's entirely possible for experts to look at your x-rays and make deductions. Insisting they cannot without handling the objects is simple bollocks and you know it.


So you admit that the opinions and so called analysis by assumed specialists that floats around on the internet are 'deductions'. I thank you for those words, because a deduction is little more than an educated guess. I would expect from any scientist to follow the correct protocol of his discipline and get hands on before casting a verdict. This applies to MDs, anatomists, biologists, forensics, archaeologists etc. I would also expect them to take ALL the existing data into consideration - for instance not assume that we're dealing with modern fakes when the C-14 dating clearly speaks against it. As said, data overrules opinions.


originally posted by: Kandinsky
You're telling what's known as a 'grand lie' and expecting people to have tiny doubts about whether you're lying or not. I'm sorry buddy, but you've removed any doubts I had completely.


Thank you for your opinion. If you go back in the thread and check my statements, you'll find that I urge people NOT to make up their minds, which is the most honest approach I can think of. I would advise you to think it all through, because you will eventually be proven wrong and I'll be there to rub it in when it happens.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: Heliocentric


Thank you for your opinion. If you go back in the thread and check my statements, you'll find that I urge people NOT to make up their minds, which is the most honest approach I can think of. I would advise you to think it all through, because you will eventually be proven wrong and I'll be there to rub it in when it happens.


If you are right, then I will be the first to hold up my hands and say sorry, I was wrong. This is not about who is right or wrong, this is about the truth, and this has hoax written all over it. There is not one part of this that stands out, but alot of evidence that this is a scam. We will see, but I know we will not be seeing any smoking gun from this!


niv

posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: Heliocentric As said, data overrules opinions.


This is it. There is no greater truth when it comes to bizarre situations like these bodies. Before running to dismiss or accept the reality of a truly odd event, wait for the data. I know there is a human need to fill in any vacuum (and that's what we have right now), but cool your heels and wait for the scientific information. If you think the DNA and carbon dating are wrong when they come out, have at it. The rest of this blather is hearsay and character assassination. Would I give my own money to Maussan trusting his statements as true. Hell no. But no one is asking for my money or anything else from me and, as we all know, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: Heliocentric


Thank you for your opinion. If you go back in the thread and check my statements, you'll find that I urge people NOT to make up their minds, which is the most honest approach I can think of. I would advise you to think it all through, because you will eventually be proven wrong and I'll be there to rub it in when it happens.


If you are right, then I will be the first to hold up my hands and say sorry, I was wrong. This is not about who is right or wrong, this is about the truth, and this has hoax written all over it. There is not one part of this that stands out, but alot of evidence that this is a scam. We will see, but I know we will not be seeing any smoking gun from this!


It started out so well... and then it fell over when you reverted back to your preconceived opinions.

I will however take you up on that (have already), and publicly announce I was wrong IF the body of scientific data indicate that the dehydrated bodies studied by the Inkari Institute are not pre-Columbian or have been anatomically altered.
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posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: niv

originally posted by: Heliocentric As said, data overrules opinions.


This is it. There is no greater truth when it comes to bizarre situations like these bodies. Before running to dismiss or accept the reality of a truly odd event, wait for the data. I know there is a human need to fill in any vacuum (and that's what we have right now), but cool your heels and wait for the scientific information. If you think the DNA and carbon dating are wrong when they come out, have at it. The rest of this blather is hearsay and character assassination. Would I give my own money to Maussan trusting his statements as true. Hell no. But no one is asking for my money or anything else from me and, as we all know, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.


Your words shine like a gas light in a very dark tomb complex.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: 311again

Can't wait for the final DNA test results...



That may take a while, the final DNA test would be to sequence the whole genome.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Heliocentric

originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: Heliocentric


Thank you for your opinion. If you go back in the thread and check my statements, you'll find that I urge people NOT to make up their minds, which is the most honest approach I can think of. I would advise you to think it all through, because you will eventually be proven wrong and I'll be there to rub it in when it happens.


If you are right, then I will be the first to hold up my hands and say sorry, I was wrong. This is not about who is right or wrong, this is about the truth, and this has hoax written all over it. There is not one part of this that stands out, but alot of evidence that this is a scam. We will see, but I know we will not be seeing any smoking gun from this!


It started out so well... and then it pancaked when you reverted back to your preconceived opinions.

I will however take you up on that (have already), and publicly announce I was wrong IF the body of scientific data indicate that the dehydrated bodies studied by the Inkari Institute are not pre-Columbian or have been anatomically altered.


If this was the case, if real experts, and not fringe scientists and known hoaxes were involved in this from the begining, we would have had the truth already. What's the bets the rest of the DNA tests are going to take a while? They want to milk this for as long as they can.

You can tell the lack if experts raking part in this , because of the shambles that was the news conference.

As it has been stated before, how the bones are structuted/put together, there was no way the person could have functioned. That tells you in itself that this is a hoax.

I am waiting for the excuse on why they cannot confirm other results.

Bodies have been stolen

Government took them and shipped them to the USA

Aliens came down and retrieved the mummies

Etc etc etc



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 08:09 PM
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THE ABSURD CONTRADICTIONS BY MAUSSAN

Yesterday Maussan released in his Tercer Milenio TV Show the chapter 5 of the
tv special " En Busca de los Dioses Perdidos " a 6 part production of the alleged
" Nazca Alien Mummies from Peru ". I was expecting a big contradiction that
could expose the falsehood of the statements mentioned in this chapter 6.

It was Maussan who wrote all the texts for this chapter 5 and knowing his clumsiness
exhibited many times it was very likely that I could catch him in a contradiction so
check this and see what I mean.

Watching this the logic conclusion is: The alleged alien mummies from Nazca are fakes,
fabricated armed pieces, confirmed by Maussan and the creator of this hoax Paul Ronceros.
Then the chapter 5 released yesterday by Maussan is complete BS, period.

See the infamous small body armed with animal and other parts, just a fake.


MORE ABSURD OR SHOULD I SAY RIDICULE CONTRADICTIONS BY MAUSSAN

Do you remember the 2015 alleged " Alien Slides " the biggest fiasco in Maussan's career ?
Then you need to see this, it's hilarious. As you know the first person that leaked the news
of the " Alien Slides " was researcher Anthony Bragalia who was associated to Tom Carey
and Don Schmitt. Once Maussan released the slides in the Be Witness event in Mexico and
the plaque was decoded it was revealed the pictures were taken in a museum and it was
the mummy of a child in display. And then Tony Bragalia released the information of the
museum where the pictures were taken and Maussan reacted furious and upset against
Bragalia saying on television that Anthony Bragalia did not exist, that he was like a ghost
because nobody knew him or have seen him in person, despite the fact that Bragalia was
actually partner of Carey and Schmitt, also the two main partners of Maussan in this case.
Here is Maussan claiming on television that Anthony Bragalia did not exist.

Som weeks later as the controversy increased Maussan had a " Smart idea ". To launch a
public challenge offering a $ 5,000 dollars reward to the one who could present one clear
photograph of the child mummy in the museum different from the slide one. Maussan even
offered a reward of $ 10,000 dollars to the one who could present the physical body of the
mummy. The intention of Maussan was clearly to divert the attention of the avalanche of
criticism he was receiving pretending a false posture of being interested in finding the truth.
Here is the public offering, the open letter and the messages on Twitter:


Sometime later Maussan made a surprising announcement, he found the winner of the $ 5,000
dollars challenge and the name....... Anthony Bragalia !!! Check this:

What a blunder, Maussan gave the prize to a non-existent man ? I laughed so much when this
happened and realized Maussan was so dumb contradicting himself in a very naive way, just like
now with the small bodies assembled from Nazca contradicting his own chapter 6. What do all
this means ? Jaime Maussan who is the main character running this circus " Nazca Alien Mummies "
is a poor dumb individual who constantly contradicts himself, so the people what can expect
of him ? Lies, hoaxes, forgeries, etc. As I said since the beginning this case is about a HOAX
created to earn money the illegal way by making deals with delinquents tomb robbers like
the criminal " Mario " aka " Mario Peruano " aka " Lea "aka " Leandro Benedicto Rivera " aka
" Lea Lea " etc. We must condemn these acts and those who are destroying Peru's arqueological
heritage.
Finally this. There is a place in Guanajuato Mexico lik a museum where real mummies are in
display. It's an old tradition allowed by the goverment and the people who visit this place go
there with respect and devotion. Be very careful with Maussan, don't allow him access because
he could go mad claiming all these mummies are " Dead aliens " and try to make earnings.

TO BE CONTINUED


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posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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The more and more I read, the more obvious it is thst this is a hoax. Shame on the people involved, and shame on the people making money from this rubbish!

At the end of the day, it's all about money



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 08:57 PM
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It is obvious that you and the OP are buyist to this. The reason why, we do not really know, but it is obvious this is a hoax, and it is obvious that nothing major is going to come out about this.



Just because there were some researchers on the Nazca mummies, who, themselves were unknowingly duped on certain ify past ventures, does not mean that all of these researchers were. What should they have done—sack the whole team because a couple of the team members were somehow inadvertently involved in a scam in some way prior to this project? How can you realistically call this your "Proof Positive", your so-called "EVIDENCE" that this is an absolute scam. Name calling or just saying that something is an obvious hoax is not evidence—no matter how much you wish it were...





You have ignored the fact that the x-ray shows that it would be impossible for the person to move properly. You have ignored the fact thst the people involved are known for their fringe science and involvement in hoaxes.



Actually, I do somewhat agree with you here as in one of the earlier vids one of the researchers was perplexed as to how one of the particular mummies could possibly have walked—as it would have possessed a very stiff gait indeed. However, I think the OP later explained that this distinctive mummy could have been reconstituted from other mummy parts back in the day when it was first mummified.




And you have the cheek to mock us for being skeptic, when you know damn well that this is a scam!




I sense that you are in a "dungeon of disbelief".


I feel that you too, as well as many others, are on this terrible sinking ship called the U.S.S. Plaster Of Paris that is now sinking faster & deeper than the Titanic ever did. Yes, they were foolish enough to make it out of Plaster Of Paris & still called it "unsinkable". But it's OK—I'm receiving all of your S.O.S's loud & clear, and I'm sure that help will arrive as soon as you get rid of your frantic obsession with this so-called "dungeon of disbelief".





posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 09:01 PM
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I would advise you to think it all through, because you will eventually be proven wrong and I'll be there to rub it in when it happens.



I'm starting the rubbing early...




posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 09:14 PM
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It is obvious that you and the OP are buyist to this. The reason why, we do not really know, but it is obvious this is a hoax, and it is obvious that nothing major is going to come out about this.



Just because there were some researchers on the Nazca mummies, who, themselves were unknowingly duped on certain ify past ventures, does not mean that all of these researchers were. What should they have done—sack the whole team because a couple of the team members were somehow inadvertently involved in a scam in some way prior to this project? How can you realistically call this your "Proof Positive", your so-called "EVIDENCE" that this is an absolute scam. Name calling or just saying that something is an obvious hoax is not evidence—no matter how much you wish it were...





You have ignored the fact that the x-ray shows that it would be impossible for the person to move properly. You have ignored the fact thst the people involved are known for their fringe science and involvement in hoaxes.



Actually, I do somewhat agree with you here as in one of the earlier vids one of the researchers was perplexed as to how one of the particular mummies could possibly have walked—as it would have possessed a very stiff gait indeed. However, I think the OP later explained that this distinctive mummy could have been reconstituted from other mummy parts back in the day when it was first mummified.




And you have the cheek to mock us for being skeptic, when you know damn well that this is a scam!




I sense that you are in a "dungeon of disbelief".


I feel that you too, as well as many others, are on this terrible sinking ship called the U.S.S. Plaster Of Paris that is now sinking faster & deeper than the Titanic ever did. Yes, they were foolish enough to make it out of Plaster Of Paris & still called it "unsinkable". But it's OK—I'm receiving all of your S.O.S's loud & clear, and I'm sure that help will arrive as soon as you get rid of your frantic obsession with this so-called "dungeon of disbelief".




See, this is the thing. You act like this case has undeniable Evidence, and we are all fools for not believing in it.

In fact, there is no evidence, and it is more like you are convincing yourself, or trying to convince the gullible.

I have predicted how this was going to go, not becsuse i have special powers, but because I have seen so many hoaxes in my time, and they all follow the same pattern, just like this one.

But like I said before, I now believe that you and the OP have other interests in this case, and most prob know what the outcome is going to be!
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