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Strange Mummies From Nazca Studied By Medical Team

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posted on May, 7 2017 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

I enjoyed watching the video's but they don't look very credible. I would expect them to handle unique, ancient mummies with a LOT of care. But they manipulate the skeletons like puppets and the skulls as if they were tennis balls.

With some manipulations I'd expect the arms or legs to break in an instant




posted on May, 7 2017 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: solve
a reply to: Heliocentric

I clean skeletons and skulls, from fresh and mummified specimens... And i want to believe this story, but everything is wrong in the way they look, and the X-rays... i could make better ones.


They look wrong because their anatomy does not correspond with anything we know.

I have no opinion on your knowledge or skill set, but in what sense could you do better ones? The X-rays are real, they are what they are and they show what they show. Dr Edson Salazar Vivanco - who participates in the videos - does exist. He lives in Cusco and works at the Antonio Lorena hospital, Cusco. You can visit his Facebook page under the same name and ask him yourself. By the way, do you speak Spanish? Have you partaken in Vivanco's analysis of the mummified bodies?
Thierry Jamin is a French archaeologist working out of Cusco, Peru. I've met him personally and I've exchanged emails with him.


originally posted by: Brian4real
After seeing the hands and feet of this mummy, i recalled the story of the 'Alien Hand found in Peru'. Although the size is different, the resemblance is uncanny?


It is my belief that this hand originates from the Nazca tomb, and that false information has been given on its origin.

Just to be clear, I've not yet made up my mind as to what these mummified bodies are. But I can state the following. The medical analysis of the bodies presented is not fake. These studies really took place. The doctors partaking in these studies clearly consider them genuine artefacts, they state that they are aged biological entities, they're not made out of plaster and metal wire.
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posted on May, 7 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

i wonder if this is what TDL is making an announcement about



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 06:05 PM
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originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: Heliocentric

Regardless the DNA test results, it's a remarkable find.

I don't understand why they initially said they found it in Tacna. I lived there and also had been in Nazca many times. No important cultures developed between both places in the southern coast, as far as I remember besides Nazca and Paracas.


The tomb robbers have no interest in disclosing the true location of the tomb. Thierry Jamin claims that the two remaining tomb robbers have already sold similar artefacts to private collectors for more than $ 100 000, and there's lots more to be found in the tomb complex.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

Why does everyone jump immediately to aliens? That smaller humanoid form, in the first video, could as easily be a gnome, or something of that sort. Assuming it's not all fake, that is, or something known.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

You're closer to the situation than we are so I'm deferring to your opinion. However after the Brian Forrester debacle you can understand the concerns?

If this pans out I'd expect at some point the Max Planck institution will be involved?



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: Heliocentric

Why does everyone jump immediately to aliens? That smaller humanoid form, in the first video, could as easily be a gnome, or something of that sort. Assuming it's not all fake, that is, or something known.


LGE, guilty as charged.

Personally I do not assume that they're aliens, but Thierry Jamin has stated that he now thinks so. That is why I posted this in the Aliens/UFO forum rather than the Ancient/Lost Civilizations forum where it reasonably should have gone.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: Caver78
a reply to: Heliocentric

You're closer to the situation than we are so I'm deferring to your opinion. However after the Brian Forrester debacle you can understand the concerns?

If this pans out I'd expect at some point the Max Planck institution will be involved?


Of course, alternative theorists will flock to this, I cannot say I blame them. Thierry Jamin knows Brien Foerster (I've met him too by the way, Cusco isn't that big) but they do not in any way share convictions or beliefs. Jamin repeatedly states that he's NOT an ufologist, he's just an archaeologist trying to figure out what all this is about.

If I'm not mistaken, samples of the remains have been sent out to four laboratories in different countries, and the last sample sent was just confirmed to have arrived.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

Can you link the original article you got this from please. Not just the YouTube videos.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 07:10 PM
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The 2nd one at least with appearances doesn't seem to have knees or elbows. Maybe just extraordinarily tiny ones?

Just after a cursory search for this archaeologist, he was after an initial dig, refused to dig a second time in Machu Picchu, due to having used poor and unscientific methods, etc. Any truth to that? Could be because he was looking for the lost city of gold though. : )



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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It looks like a muckumentary....why is this thread stickied to the top? This "discovery" has no peer reviews...



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

That sounds very encouraging then!

It's not that finding mummified aliens wouldn't float my boat, I just prefer this be handled more professionally than some of the antic's we've seen in the past. That kind of silliness makes us all look foolish. Hoping they find it's a "type" of relic hominid, or at the very least a new species. So exciting!!!




posted on May, 7 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: Heliocentric
I can confirm to you - as a retired archaeologist - that we're not dealing with sloths.

Then as a retired archaeologist, you should know that context is everything. Photos and detailed sketches of the bodies in situ tell more about it than x-rays ever could. Where are the photos of these supposedly world-changing bodies being found?

These "mummies" look so laughably like plaster. And what professional puts a mummy onto its fragile toes like this?

Comments disabled for the videos, because peer review is discouraged?



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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Going back and watching video number two, honestly it don't even look organic. What it looks like to me is some fashioned ornamental statuette used for a parade like Day of the Dead.

The two tech's there x-raying, I give them credit for keeping straight faces.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: Heliocentric

Can you link the original article you got this from please. Not just the YouTube videos.


There is no original article. Thierry Jamin has posted information on his Facebook page and videos on Youtube as events unfolded. As mentioned, he has also crowd funded money to buy some of the mummified bodies seen in the videos. If you understand French there's a plethora of info and interviews with Jamin on his facebook page. You will also find more info on the Alien Project site, but as said you need to understand French or Spanish:

www.the-alien-project.com...



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit

Just after a cursory search for this archaeologist, he was after an initial dig, refused to dig a second time in Machu Picchu, due to having used poor and unscientific methods, etc. Any truth to that? Could be because he was looking for the lost city of gold though. : )


Let me tell you how that went down. A French/Spanish tourist visited Machu Picchu and noticed a strange wall right in the center of the Palace complex. He had recently visited an Inca site in Northern Peru found and excavated by the Inkari Archaeological Institute (led by Thierry Jamin). There, Jamin had found a tomb behind a similar wall. The tourist therefore contacted Jamin and told him about the wall. Jamin went to Machu Picchu and confirmed that the wall seemed to be a sealed tomb entrance. He contacted the authorities, but they shrugged it off with disbelief. With time they agreed to let Jamin examine the area with Ground Penetrating Radar. What he found was beyond all expectations. A large sealed space containing various objects, and metal detectors indicated the presence of gold. Located smack in the center of the Machu Picchu complex, it's most likely a royal tomb. The discovery quickly became a political issue, and three years later it has still not been excavated. It was a huge embarrassment to Peruvian archaeologists that a tourist discovered a supposed royal tomb in one of the most carefully excavated archaeological sites in the world. Thierry Jamin never excavated the site, and in the mud slinging that followed the discovery he got his fair share.
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posted on May, 7 2017 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: SargonThrall

Agreed this is a gigantic obvious hoax. Unless rigor
sets into bone.

LMAO

Tomb Raiders and archaeologists and Jiame Maussan oh my!

I think the grave robbers were just really good dremmel tweekers.

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posted on May, 7 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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what gets me is that just because a real medical doctors says something is real doesn't mean it is.anybody remember that a real medical doctor that said this is real.




posted on May, 8 2017 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

They look wrong because the pose is childish and impossible, the color is wrong, no signs of fat deposits leaching out, no signs of bacterial or fungal activity, and absolutely no sign of dry rot, there is a clean zero chance that these are real.



Thanks for the name and email, for many years now, i have been annoyed by the fact that official archaeologists participate in scams and hoaxes in hope of getting a little publicity and/or funding.



posted on May, 8 2017 @ 06:25 AM
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a reply to: solve


Are you familiar with the embalming techniques used by the Nazca civilisation? Do you know the desertic conditions of the Nazca Plateau and what it does to preserved remains? Do you know how long these remains have been stored? Because if you don't, nothing of what you said has any relevance.

As to looking wrong, I don't even know what I'm looking at.

Here's an additional video for you. Present during the study is Dr. Ramiro Hermoza Rosell, General Surgeon, Dr. Renan Ramírez Vargas, Surgeon and Dr. Julio Espejo Torres, bone specialist. Listen carefully to Dr. Vargas and Dr. Rosell's conclusion of the study. They do absolutely agree that this is a real mummified body, they're able to identify a bone disease that the subject suffered from, and they establish that the subject was not fully grown:

www.youtube.com...


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