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Strange Mummies From Nazca Studied By Medical Team

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posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 03:55 AM
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a reply to: Heliocentric

Thanks for the update!!
Know this is taking a long time, but maybe the results are worth waiting for? Either way it's still interesting.





posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 04:24 AM
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originally posted by: Heliocentric
Just to inform you that the Press Conference has finally been set.

12th of July at 10AM in Lima, Peru. It will be co-organized by The Inkari Institute (Peru), Tercer Milenio (Mexico) and GaiaTV (US). NatGeo is apparently doing their own thing.



So no credible institutions will participate: Tercer Milenio is the baby of the biggest fraudster on telly, Jaime Maussan.... I'm sure we all remember his Metepec creature.

National Geographic doesn't want to be mixed with them, even though lately it is not a reliable source as it used to be, especially since it's been purchased by Murdoch.


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posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 06:10 AM
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originally posted by: Caver78
a reply to: Heliocentric

Thanks for the update!!
Know this is taking a long time, but maybe the results are worth waiting for? Either way it's still interesting.



My personal opinion is that it's worth waiting for. If you think it's still interesting now, wait until the announcement has been made. We'll see how far it goes on the Richter-scale...


originally posted by: Agartha

So no credible institutions will participate: Tercer Milenio is the baby of the biggest fraudster on telly, Jaime Maussan.... I'm sure we all remember his Metepec creature.


You''re looking at it wrong.

Four highly qualified MDs (plus other MDs, medical specialists and others who do not figure in the short video presentations) have authenticated four mummies and other mummified body parts obtained by the Inkari Institute.

On the 12th of July, test results (C-14 and initial DNA results,) will be presented from at least six international reputed laboratories (who do not know where the samples they test come from) plus all the data and test results performed in Cusco during the last eight months.

This is what's happening. Whether the media outlets who present the information are credible in your eyes or not is irrelevant IMO. The data speaks for itself.

Here's my question to you. Do you really think the many people around this thing (Thierry Jamin and the Inkari Institute, Jaime Maussan and his TV show, the Gaia TV crew) would call for a press conference over some chicken bones and frog skins thrown together for a Youtube video hoax?


originally posted by: Agartha
National Geographic doesn't want to be mixed with them, even though lately it is not a reliable source as it used to be, especially since it's been purchased by Murdoch.



You don't know the reasons why they're not participating the 12th, it could be anything.

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posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 06:43 AM
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originally posted by: Heliocentric
Just to inform you that the Press Conference has finally been set.

12th of July at 10AM in Lima, Peru. It will be co-organized by The Inkari Institute (Peru), Tercer Milenio (Mexico) and GaiaTV (US). NatGeo is apparently doing their own thing.


Can you please post a link with the announcement (even if it's in Spanish, you know I speak the language fluently).Ta.




On the 12th of July, test results (C-14 and initial DNA results,) will be presented from at least six international reputed laboratories (who do not know where the samples they test come from) plus all the data and test results performed in Cusco during the last eight months.


Reputable laboratories names and scientists involved always appear in reputable reports. Fraudulent people always keep the name of the labs and technicians secret, that's what Foerster and Pye did with the Paracas skulls. So let's see if we will find out who was involved.


Here's my question to you. Do you really think the many people around this thing (Thierry Jamin and the Inkari Institute, Jaime Maussan and his TV show, the Gaia TV crew) would call for a press conference over some chicken bones and frog skins thrown together for a Youtube video hoax?


Yes, Jaime Maussan is a fraudulent man, the Metepec creature is proof of this.

But first I'd like to know where and how they announced the press conference, as I haven't seen it anywhere. Hence I asked you to kindly post the link.



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: Agartha

Reputable laboratories names and scientists involved always appear in reputable reports. Fraudulent people always keep the name of the labs and technicians secret, that's what Foerster and Pye did with the Paracas skulls. So let's see if we will find out who was involved.



It seems as you don't like Rupert Murdoch, but you are as speculative with the truth as his newspapers.

Allow me to correct the information you just posted. Brien Foerster has effectively DNA tested a select group of elongated skulls from the Paracas culture, but he went about it differently than the Inkari Institute. Instead of paying expensive laboratory tests by crowd funding, he turned towards a geneticist in the US who showed interest in the matter, and who proposed to perform DNA testing to a fraction of the cost of a prestigious laboratory. As the initial results obtained were quite confusing (DNA sequences that do not match any human haplogroups known today), the geneticist decided not to publish the findings, but to continue with further testing. I believe this was the smartest thing to do. Spectacular claims do demand spectacular proof, and it's only by repeated testing that you can learn more and narrow out any possibility of mistake. Brien Foerster however decided to go public (to stir things up as he says), but without the hard scientific data and the geneticist to stand by them, Foerster's claims were easily dismissed.

Announcing the test results (prematurely IMO) without the hard data (that can still be put into question) does however not make the data fake or Foerster fraudulent in any way form or matter. This is your personal opinion only, and I would advice you to be more careful with who you accuse of fraud and for what reason.
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posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: Heliocentric
Announcing the test results (prematurely IMO) without the hard data (that can still be put into question) does however not make the data fake or Foerster fraudulent in any way form or matter. This is your personal opinion only, and I would advice you to be more careful with who you accuse of fraud and for what reason.


Prematurly? LOL it's been like five years! And anyway, I have read the 'tests' and they definitely lack credibility, you can see my reasoning on one of the many Paracas threads on ATS.

Anyway, let me repost this I asked you before:

Can you please post a link with the announcement (even if it's in Spanish, you know I speak the language fluently). I can't find it anywhere. Thank you.



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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I find your posts very interesting. You seam to think this will rewrite history. Do you think this will trigger more of the same kind ?


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posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha

Prematurly? LOL it's been like five years! And anyway, I have read the 'tests' and they definitely lack credibility, you can see my reasoning on one of the many Paracas threads on ATS.


Then let's keep Foerster and the elongated skulls in the threads that treat that topic, I'll be happy to share my POW over there.


originally posted by: Agartha

Anyway, let me repost this I asked you before:

Can you please post a link with the announcement (even if it's in Spanish, you know I speak the language fluently). I can't find it anywhere. Thank you.


Have you talked to Dr. Vivanco yet Agartha? Don't you think it would be interesting for people who read this thread to hear his replies to your questions? Since you speak fluent Spanish, send him a PM. What have you got to lose?

Thierry Jamin announced the press conference in the video I posted above (in French), I don't know if an official release have been made yet. I guess you'll have to wait a little.


originally posted by: Themanxter
I find your posts very interesting. You seam to think this will rewrite history. Do you think this will trigger more of the same kind ?


a reply to: Heliocentric



Thank you Themanxter,

I think we've just discovered something big, but I would like the scientific data to define what that discovery is. It will speak for itself.



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 02:38 PM
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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: MRICHARD

Thank you MRICHARD, and thank you GaiaTV for breaking the ice.



As said, I believe we've discovered something big. It will all be revealed the 12th.

So, this is the mummy I identify as Victoria, but once again I could be wrong.

In the video, together with the American, Russian and Mexican specialists, you see Dr. Salazar Vivanco - who Agartha refuses to talk to because he/she knows he will corroborate the whole story.

Cal AD 245 to 410 AD puts Victoria (said to be female) in the Nazca culture period, the other labs seem to confirm.

There are many other mummies that will be revealed in due time...




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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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Correction: Maria, not Victoria.

www.gaia.com...
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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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this video : www.youtube.com...

this preserved body is carbon dated 245 AD - 410 AD... it has been scanned...
the internal organs, veins, and presumably nerves are visible in the internal CAT Scans which are quickly shown in the video.

so, this is not a fake, pseudo-mummy, or a side-show prop or scam

I am finally in the believer camp on 'aliens'... now that does not mean aliens are from an outer-space homeworld
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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: St Udio

I am finally in the believer camp on 'aliens'... now that does not mean aliens are from an outer-space homeworld


You haven't seen the hard data, no need to make up your mind on aliens just yet.

I must admit, I have worked on the video presentation for the press release the 12th, so I'm slightly ahead of you.

It's going to be real interesting, I can tell you that.

Are we to believe Mario the tomb robber, there are live, unknown types of entities roaming the underground galleries of the tomb complex. So should we call them UUEs, Unidentified Underground Entities?



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 03:41 PM
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In case you have not had your dose of strange mummies yet, here's a video clip from one of the medical studies of the mummy Josefina, published yesterday by the Alien Project.
Thierry Jamin draws some rather radical conclusions regarding the mummy, but perhaps he's right:

www.youtube.com...

If you have any questions that I can answer, feel free to ask...
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posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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Cant help to think they handle those ancient mummies fairly rough.
So now there is two totally different speices, as one wouldnt been enough sensational.
Is there more to come ? Anything about when NatGeo will do something in regards to this ?

Any mainstream media picked this up yet ?
😱



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posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 09:14 AM
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Very curious by the results, but not sure they will come up with a conclusion other than it has human DNA, and thus what it looks like is surprising. Then it will all be about are humans descended from aliens, etc. But.. keeping my hopes alive it will be a much more amazing announcement.

I think if it had been alien however, the would not said the results were surprising.. I think they would have said something along the lines that the results were astounding / spectacular / amazing / unbelievable. Surprising just means they were surprised by the results. : )



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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Absolutely nothing will happen. It is not the first time Jaime Maussan has been involved with cases that turned out to be hoaxes, including the Roswell slides, and the winged demon body, to name a few.

I hope I am wrong, but i doubt it very much!



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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This development is extra ordinary. Since you said you would try to respond to questions, thanks. In one picture of the xray, in the Gaiam trailer, a 1997 date is stamped. Is this incorrect or was the cadaver found as long ago as 1997?

Also, I have noticed a rough kind of handling of the "mummies". The large body was seemingly stuffed in a box and wrestled out rather than gently cut out?. As in taking a piece of skin, there was a sort of crude way of gathering samples. Also I saw a picture of one body turned upside down with no support of the feet so toes were pressed on a metal table.

This sort of clumsiness seemed odd considering the possible magnitude of the discovery?



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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Ground Zeros newest show on SoundCloud is all about this. Just fast forward the first 2 minutes if you don't want your ears blown out with poorly produced garbled nonsense.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: Heliocentric
Have you talked to Dr. Vivanco yet Agartha? Don't you think it would be interesting for people who read this thread to hear his replies to your questions? Since you speak fluent Spanish, send him a PM. What have you got to lose?



Again? How many times are you going to ask me and how many times will I have to give you the same reply? Dr Vivanco is just a stranger online. Here, this is what I said to you before about quizzing Dr. Vivanco:


Quiz him?The only way I could trust his word is if he proves them by allowing a fair and unbiased replication of his findings. Only then I will believe him.




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