The Stigmatization Of The "Loner."

originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Exactly... So again, I have to wonder if it's just convenient for society to blame the "loner" to make itself feel more comfortable. It's more comforting to a lot of people to think it's the social "oddball" that do despicable things, than it is to think "normal" outgoing people would.

It does come up often but just as many cases people thought the criminal was a perfect social butterfly.

Organized killers will be very intelligent,
methodical, and social, will likely be married with children, will come across as charming and
successful, and will bring their own vehicle and weapon when they commit a murder (Victims of
Violence, 2007).

epublications.regis.edu...
People tend to think people who prefer to be alone are hiding something, their own need for others is so great, that they can't comprehend that it is a choice and that solitude can be enjoyed.

originally posted by: c2oden
It's not difficult.
People do not trust loners.
They don't trust them because they do not know them.
If you do not know someone, it is foolish to trust them.

Sorry loners, but you will always be looked at differently because of your anti-social behavior.

And yet no one ever really knows anyone, it is Family members who often molest, rape kills another family. Most crime is committed by People you know.

Thinkers are doers, Fug. It's called "sprezzatura".

If you don't frequently hear the words, "How did you do that?" Then you'll never know just how far behind you've made yourself.

And I'm not talking about the ability to pound down 20 Keystone in an hour with the meatheads; although, I do have that under my belt.

I've also beat an Army Sgt. at a game of "hold the lit cigarette between eachothers' arms and whoever pulls away first is a pussy".

I've broken a Marine's ribs before he could see me move. He fell to one knee and gasped, "I need a cigarette!"

I've rebuilt engines for fun. If you don't have parts left-over, you ain't done it right.

I am called by everyone I know to do their roofing, walls, framing, landscaping, electronic work, computers, cameras, musical instruments, you name it - without pay... Well, a case of beer will do.

I play chess with a couple of friends online who use to crush me. I spent 3 months reading and watching YouTube and my estimated strength jumped from 1100 ELO FIDE to 1860 in 3 months.

My form of socializing is brain work. My hands could crush most. I could arm wrestle a bear, despite being only 165 lbs.

I own two businesses. One is admittedly not doing well, but the other is thriving beyond what I want to handle.

I seek always to improve myself and those around me. I would never think my fellow human beings deserve to be kept down to the level of just a bus driver or just a cook or just a "doer".

Those like you who want to keep people down with you are my enemy and the enemy of every other human being.

You are the sociopath. I refuse to hang with meatheads because they refuse to see that they're meatheads. But you want everyone to be a meathead.

That's the ultimate form of selfishness... And the ultimate lack of being a real Doer - the thing you hate most.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

Well indeed we can wonder why it is. Upbringing mabey. Negligent parents.

If I saw a loner Id report them. Nothing screams out "suspicious" more than a loner.

Yours is the first post, is this perhaps an exercise?
Could you even be SpeakerofTruth. Certainly stirred the pot and kept this little thread running.

I'm two pages into this thread and it's clear there's one major-league a**hole posting in it, an obvious troll.

It's no one's business what a loner is doing if the loner is functioning within the law.

I've been an extreme loner all my life. I live and breathe books. I am in a constant process of educating myself, which leaves little time for other people. I enjoy my solitude. I enjoy the silence.

I have a cat and a cupboard full of wonderful teas. The library is three blocks away. This is all I need.

Why?

I can't abide the insipid and inane small talk required in social interaction. I don't care about the weather, I don't want to see pictures of your porch apes, and I'd rather discuss science and literature than clipping coupons and classless celebrities, narcissistic selfies and FakeBook.

Minding your own business and staying out of other people's business is not a crime. It should be encouraged.

a reply to: 123143

To a "T", and better for it. Indeed.

originally posted by: c2oden

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: c2oden

originally posted by: HeathenJessie
I like to socialise at work, I talk to everyone and get on well with most people.

Sometimes I make up lies about other employees, spread rumours. I like to cause trouble between other members of staff then stand back and enjoy the drama that unfolds it's a great laugh.

the best thing is, I'm really popular and most folk seem to like me, so it's a win-win situation for me. I get to cause trouble and still be popular...you can't grumble with that.

How do you live with doing what you do?
Does it make you feel good to cause problems for others just because you want to enjoy the drama that you caused them?

Of course

Do you like to hurt people?

Hurt who? People at work?

Sometimes, yes. Sometimes I want to wreck them, emotionally. There was one time when this lad liked this girl who was a new, young receptionist what started working with us. He confided in me that he was really into her but wa scared to approach her in case she rejected him or he got in trouble for being a creep.

So I said I'd subtly drop it into a conversation next time I was chatting to her just to sort of find out what her opinion of him was...I hated her as much as I hated him so I decided instead to tell him she found him repulsive and ask her out myself, that he was a loser and a loner.

I used her then dropped her, they were both in tatters but people in work still worshipped the ground that I walked on, they think the sun shines out of my backside when in actual fact I'm the devil incarnate. She left soon after and became a heroin addict, which I found to be highly amusing.

I have lot's of friends and a very active social life. Everyone loves me, I'm a minor local celebrity and notorious hard man.

Regarding the loners who kill, what do many of them have in common?

THEY WERE BULLIED IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS.

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: c2oden

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: c2oden

originally posted by: HeathenJessie
I like to socialise at work, I talk to everyone and get on well with most people.

Sometimes I make up lies about other employees, spread rumours. I like to cause trouble between other members of staff then stand back and enjoy the drama that unfolds it's a great laugh.

the best thing is, I'm really popular and most folk seem to like me, so it's a win-win situation for me. I get to cause trouble and still be popular...you can't grumble with that.

How do you live with doing what you do?
Does it make you feel good to cause problems for others just because you want to enjoy the drama that you caused them?

Of course

Do you like to hurt people?

Hurt who? People at work?

Sometimes, yes. Sometimes I want to wreck them, emotionally. There was one time when this lad liked this girl who was a new, young receptionist what started working with us. He confided in me that he was really into her but wa scared to approach her in case she rejected him or he got in trouble for being a creep.

So I said I'd subtly drop it into a conversation next time I was chatting to her just to sort of find out what her opinion of him was...I hated her as much as I hated him so I decided instead to tell him she found him repulsive and ask her out myself, that he was a loser and a loner.

I used her then dropped her, they were both in tatters but people in work still worshipped the ground that I walked on, they think the sun shines out of my backside when in actual fact I'm the devil incarnate. She left soon after and became a heroin addict, which I found to be highly amusing.

I have lot's of friends and a very active social life. Everyone loves me, I'm a minor local celebrity and notorious hard man.

Someone may kill you one day for your atrocities.

And since:

in work still worshipped the ground that I walked on, they think the sun shines out of my backside

The cops wont have any suspects.

originally posted by: 123143
Regarding the loners who kill, what do many of them have in common?

THEY WERE BULLIED IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS.

A psychiatrist and current or recent drug therapy.

Maybe they're just trying to blow off some steam. Maybe, they're tired of expectations and manipulation, and meeting some one like fuggle hop it takes all their energy to restrain themselves from beating the douche bag within an inch of his life. You're " normal" then? I'd rather be doomed to being weird than being boring like you. Try to not to annoy anyone into beating you down at your breakfast event. Patting yourself on the back the way you do could arouse some retaliation. "Loners" are often no BS type of people. You seem to be so full of BS, you want serve it to everyone you meet.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: TarzanBeta

And that is the problem with the anti social loner: It thinks its better than society.

But its ironic, because its actually contributing nothing to society.

Society demands team players and team work.

a reply to: HeathenJessie

Sounds highly anti-social, narcissistic and sociopathic

originally posted by: blueyedevilwoman

originally posted by: 123143
Regarding the loners who kill, what do many of them have in common?

THEY WERE BULLIED IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS.

A psychiatrist and current or recent drug therapy.

Interesting that you mention that. My life is pretty much hell but i refuse to seek any help because i do feel like it could upset my balance and result in a undesirable outcome. So is it not preferable to deal with these situations alone to avoid said scenario? I always wondered what it would be like to talk to a professional but then i remember the reasons why i don't do that in the first place. Is helping them the right thing to do if there is a chance that it makes it much worse instead of not helping at all and to just leave them be?

The point I'm trying to make is that I'm a very sociable person, people always want to be around me and do what I tell them to do, nobody says no to me.

I simply won't stand for it.

So I'm sociable, it's a necessary quality for someone like me who is callous and manipulative.

Once, I must have been about 5 or 6 because my little sister was only a few months old. My brother, who is 2 years older than me, and I were in the living room with my mother. It was a very nice day, my little sister was in the pram, sleeping and my brother was on the couch playing with an etch-a-sketch.

I was running around knocking things over and throwing things about and breaking them. I'd woken up that day in a bad mood and, as my brother was happy I decided that I was going to make him sorry for being happy and wipe that smug smile off his face.

So mother said she was going to the bathroom and told my brother to look after my sister, who was still sleeping in the pram, and she'd be back in a minute.

My brother was still say playing with his etch-a-sketch and I walked over to my sister, he looked over and told me to get away, I laughed and gave my sister a dead-leg, waking her up. He leapt off the couch and started coming towards me, anglily...my sister woke and started to scream.

I quickly yelled for my mother to hurry back from the bathroom, using the fact that my sister was awake and crying as an excuse to make her hurry up...I could hear her shouting, asking what was wrong. "Jonothan woke Shelly!" I yelled.

My brother was standing in front of me, screaming in my face to shut up, that I was lying. I heard my mother flush the toilet and the door unlocked...and I calmly whispered into his face "I hate you, and I'm going to say you hit her and get you into trouble!"

I saw his eyes swell with tears, his face went bright red and I could literally feel the rage oozing from him, I hear my mother trampling quickly down the hall and at that point he lifted the etch-a-sketch and struck me on the head with it, splitting my head open. Mother came in right at that moment and saw him attack me.

I told mother that he hit Shelly and woke her, then when I confronted him he hit me with the etch-a-sketch and my mother believed me. He cried, frustrated with rage and mother sent him to bed with no dinner.

I stood at the door as he lay in bed, sobbing...and mocked him. Mother bought me sweets and toys for having had to endure such a vicious assault. My dad later found out what had happend and removed all of my brothers priviliges, awarding me his pocket money and we went to Blairdrummond Safari park the next day and my brother wasn't allowed to go.

a reply to: PharoahSpiderMan

Well, congratulations on being self important and self righteous.

Also, congratulations on being able to restrain your anger. Youve been working on that for a very long time.

Soon you'll be able to rejoin society and not be a threat.

a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

So, its quite evident that a lot of loners on this forum have become butt-hurt about realising that mabey there ways of antisocialism cause other decent law abiding people to become suspicious.

To the decent law abiding people among us (myself included) it's surprising that you didn't already realise this.

But whats particuarly suprising is that so many self righteuos loners actually seem to think there behavior is virtuous. Well, to them I say it isn't.

Its time to join society and stop skulking and sulking in the shadows. If you want to think, think. But think while you work. And quit comparing yourself to Steve Jobs and Tesla.

Now I shall propose that we agree to disagree, or better yet, agree with me and stop hurling the caustics about like a 2 year old having a tantrum.

All you lone wolfs, join the back and start acting like the american-made team players you are!

a reply to: FuggleHop

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: blueyedevilwoman

originally posted by: 123143
Regarding the loners who kill, what do many of them have in common?

THEY WERE BULLIED IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS.

A psychiatrist and current or recent drug therapy.

Interesting that you mention that. My life is pretty much hell but i refuse to seek any help because i do feel like it could upset my balance and result in a undesirable outcome. So is it not preferable to deal with these situations alone to avoid said scenario.

I am no doctor.

If you feel that bad maybe you could talk to a member of the clergy or a psychologist. Someone that is going to listen to you and not try and shove a pill in your mouth.

Even loners can benefit from a little human interaction from time to time. Not enough to ruin yalls rep or anything....lol.

IMO....loners are some of the most gentle souls as well as very intelligent.

Dont tell anyone where you keep your goat.

It's probably because business thinks that loners would rather be alone at home saving money than going out with a bunch of people spending tons of money.