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Google Redefines The Word ‘Fascism’ To Smear Conservatives, Protect Liberal Rioters

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posted on May, 6 2017 @ 06:00 PM
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I think its very telling that the only way the right wing republicans can win is by hacking elections, massive disinformation campaigns and apparently a re-writing of history and definitions.

Their entire movement is built on deception, voter suppression, and appealing to ignorance.




posted on May, 6 2017 @ 06:05 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: yuppa

So what did you think about Mussolini's quote that I posted?


Woudnt be the first time a Facist lied about himself or their movement. HItler said nazis were socialist and anti capitalist. Mussolini apparently was not very educated and was just a tool of disinformation.



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
I think its very telling that the only way the right wing republicans can win is by hacking elections, massive disinformation campaigns and apparently a re-writing of history and definitions.

Their entire movement is built on deception, voter suppression, and appealing to ignorance.


Clapper said otherwise. Trump didnt win by hacking by russians HE said no collusion was found. Your opinion implies collusion. I believe Clapper over your opinion.

And Google isnt a right wing institution. they rewrote the definition because people are too stupid to go look it up in a book. Talk about ignorant.



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

Ah so they lied to be the opposite of what they support? They killed people that agreed with them?
Twisted conspiracy theory but I like it. It's original. Orwell would be so proud.



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: yuppa

Ah so they lied to be the opposite of what they support? They killed people that agreed with them?
Twisted conspiracy theory but I like it. It's original. Orwell would be so proud.


At least Hitler knew the actual score. YEs those were sacrifices for the good of the movement. HItler was going to off mussolini ASAP.



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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I think its very telling that the only way the right wing republicans can win is by hacking elections, massive disinformation campaigns and apparently a re-writing of history and definitions.


WAIT!

I thought it was Russia.

Now it's 'right wing republicans'.

Yall need to get your story straight.

Seems their critics can't win without rigging the primaries, and voter fraud(see California where the presidential contender got more than the last president did.)



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
I think its very telling that the only way the right wing republicans can win is by hacking elections, massive disinformation campaigns and apparently a re-writing of history and definitions.

Their entire movement is built on deception, voter suppression, and appealing to ignorance.


What a joke statement that is.




posted on May, 6 2017 @ 09:26 PM
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The English language is fluid, if anyone knows their history, it is the language of the commoners. Unlike French, which has strict rules and even a government agency that dictates grammar/definition, English changes over time. How we define a word today may be different from the past, some things are defined more logically, while others become more jumbled.

The logical approach to defining fascism would be left-wing ideology, that is if we are considering that the farther left on the scale is further into authoritarianism; while further right is more freedom (extreme right being anarchy/theoretical communism).

It seems socialism, applied communism, fascism, monarchy, theocracy, et al, fall under the scope of left-wing. Right wing tend to be more benign political systems, if we are being logical in defining terms.

Google is attempting to jumble a definition, for political gain of course. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, people do seem to be shifting their understanding of terms.

English has onhwerfednes geond first



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
Right wing tend to be more benign political systems, if we are being logical in defining terms.

There is the problem. You are trying to paint "right wing" as something benign and anything contrary to that must be wrong.

There have been both right and left wing dictators. How benign could either of them be?



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

I have never heard of an anarchist dictator before, could you be so kind as to provide a link?

Authoritarianism is on the left, Freedom is on the right. It's really that simple.

No need to muddy the waters in creating some dual definition of authoritarianism.



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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People might want to check out Netflix's new line up.

New show about Neo Nazi NATIONAL SOCIALISTS.


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posted on May, 6 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
I have never heard of an anarchist dictator before, could you be so kind as to provide a link?

I didn't say anarchist, I said right wing.


Authoritarianism is on the left, Freedom is on the right. It's really that simple.

Not really.

Freedom is on the right? That is what always trips americans up.


No need to muddy the waters in creating some dual definition of authoritarianism.

Why because it puts the whammy on your claim?



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: daskakik

I have never heard of an anarchist dictator before, could you be so kind as to provide a link?

Authoritarianism is on the left, Freedom is on the right. It's really that simple.

No need to muddy the waters in creating some dual definition of authoritarianism.


No it's not. Stop talking out of your ass!!! First of all it's not that simple so stop trying to make it that simple.

Freedom is on the Right???? Are you high???

Theocracy is on the Left???? Now I know you're high!!!



posted on May, 6 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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Ugh all these people trying to equate U.S. political spectrum into the historical European political spectrum.

Here's some damn history:
1) Left/Right came about during the French Revolution, based on how legislators sat in the National Assembly chamber.
2) Right-wing were those loyal to the king (monarchists aka authoritarians) and religion.
3) Left-wing were those who supported revolution and democracy.
4) This National Assembly lasted most of a month before it was dispersed, from creation to dissolution (and then self-formation as the National Constituent Assembly, which itself was dissolved with the Constitution of 1791 (the first of several of the revolutionary era).
5) The body that was formed by the Constitution of 1791 was the Legislative Assembly, which continued and really solidified in history the idea of left-right politics.

When Fascists are described as right-wing, it's in this context.

If the GOP wants to call itself right-wing and mean it in this context, then that's up to them - but I suspect they do not.
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posted on May, 7 2017 @ 12:48 AM
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3) Left-wing were those who supported revolution and democracy.

The founding fathers certainly lay on the right side of the spectrum and they knew a thing or two about revolution. However I will admit that this issue is kind of hard to debate because I think fascism can fall on both sides of the spectrum. Right-wing fascism would be when corporations get out of control through an unregulated or rigged capitalist system which results in a form of Corporatocracy, or it could be due a leader who is a war mongering neocon and takes nationalism to the extreme.

Left-wing fascism would be when you have an authoritarian nanny state government that tries to control every aspect of our lives through different forms of coercion and social pressure. Both the left and right examples are a of fascism according to the classical definition. And that's the core issue here, Google is being very deceptive imo when they try to frame fascism as only a right-wing thing, especially considering that historically it tends to be more common throughout leftist ideologies.
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posted on May, 7 2017 @ 12:55 AM
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Why is it so important which side the USSR, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were on? Republicans were the one who started this BS and wanted to lump ALL OF THEM into the left side for a reason. Do you see "leftists" trying to distance themselves from communism? It's history. GET OVER IT conservatives.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 12:56 AM
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This puts the Nazis in league with the Soviets...wut?



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 01:03 AM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

Like I said the Republicans want to dump all this on the dirty evil left.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 01:04 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

No. Stop. You've completely ignored what I've written.

Just listen:
U.S. definition of right-wing / left-wing IS NOT THE SAME as European definition of right-wing / left-wing.

Nazis and Fascists having been in Europe go by the traditional European definition.



posted on May, 7 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

You seem to be equating the words fascism with authoritarianism.

While fascism is authoritarian not every authoritarian government is fascist.

I think part of the problem is that the word "fascist" gets thrown around a lot, incorrectly.



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