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originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: DarkvsLight29
I could do it where I am too, but even if I did there, in the middle of nowhere, if the wrong person caught wind of it, I would be in trouble.
So that is not freedom.
True.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TinySickTears
freedom is being able to do anything that does not infringe upon the rights of others.
originally posted by: TinySickTears i would like to amend it though.
freedom is being able to do anything that does not infringe on the rights of others and in doing those things you will not be imprisoned for them.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: TinySickTears i would like to amend it though.
freedom is being able to do anything that does not infringe on the rights of others and in doing those things you will not be imprisoned for them.
BS laws. Is why I disagree with many of them.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
might as well post the definition
the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.
imprisoning me after i do something is a hindrance or restraint.
curious to all of your opinions on what it means to be free or have freedom.
originally posted by: ZIPMATT
Liberty
1.
the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's behaviour or political views.
"compulsory retirement would interfere with individual liberty"
synonyms: independence, freedom, autonomy, sovereignty, self government, self rule, self determination, home rule; More
2.
a right or privilege, especially a statutory one.
"the Bill of Rights was intended to secure basic civil liberties"
synonyms: right, birthright, opportunity, facility, prerogative, entitlement, privilege, permission, sanction, leave, consent, authorization, authority, licence, clearance, blessing, dispensation, exemption, faculty; carte blanche
"no man who was born free would be contented to be penned up and denied the liberty to go where he pleases"
eg , he doesn't have freedom to enjoy a plant due to the oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on his liberties .
Liberty then perhaps more important to understand , we're all learning
Freedom is going to sleep at night and waking up in the morning knowing your safe.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
im not looking for a legal definition or anything like that.
looking for what it means to each of you personally.
im asking because i have been struggling with this the past few days after participating in some of the threads.
i keep seeing people post things like
"you are free to do _____ but you will have to deal with the consequences"
that does not make sense to me.
for me, if i am free to do something it means i will continue to be free after i do it.
is that not what it means to you
someone posted to me saying you are free to murder your neighbor but you will have to face the consequences.
of course if you do that you should be in jail. obviously. fact is though you are not free to do that cause you will be imprisoned for it.
another post about a lady with a dui said "she was free to refuse a sobriety test but if she did things would have been worse"
how is that free to do it then?
of course i am not saying i want to do the things i mentioned.
we live in a free country. we are free to do as we please. of course that means within the laws of our society.
the opposite of freedom is imprisonment or enslavement.
if something you do causes you to be imprisoned or enslaved then you are not free to do it.
if you are free to do it then you would not be imprisoned for doing it.
thats how it works in my head. maybe i am way off so i figure i would ask.
so what is being free mean to you?
originally posted by: essentialtremors
That's where we are differing in views.
Imprisonment after the fact didn't hinder or restrain you from said actions.
originally posted by: berenike
Given the constraints of living in a society I think the nearest we can come to freedom is not to be answerable to anyone else in our personal lives.
I like being alone and responsible for my own actions. To decide for myself how I'm going to spend my day. How I'm going to spend my money.
To not have to ask anyone's permission or include them in the process of decision making.
That's freedom for me.
someone posted to me saying you are free to murder your neighbor but you will have to face the consequences.
of course if you do that you should be in jail. obviously. fact is though you are not free to do that cause you will be imprisoned for it.
another post about a lady with a dui said "she was free to refuse a sobriety test but if she did things would have been worse"
how is that free to do it then?
originally posted by: TinySickTears
im not looking for a legal definition or anything like that.
looking for what it means to each of you personally.
im asking because i have been struggling with this the past few days after participating in some of the threads.
i keep seeing people post things like
"you are free to do _____ but you will have to deal with the consequences"
that does not make sense to me.
for me, if i am free to do something it means i will continue to be free after i do it.
is that not what it means to you
someone posted to me saying you are free to murder your neighbor but you will have to face the consequences.
of course if you do that you should be in jail. obviously. fact is though you are not free to do that cause you will be imprisoned for it.
another post about a lady with a dui said "she was free to refuse a sobriety test but if she did things would have been worse"
how is that free to do it then?
of course i am not saying i want to do the things i mentioned.
we live in a free country. we are free to do as we please. of course that means within the laws of our society.
the opposite of freedom is imprisonment or enslavement.
if something you do causes you to be imprisoned or enslaved then you are not free to do it.
if you are free to do it then you would not be imprisoned for doing it.
thats how it works in my head. maybe i am way off so i figure i would ask.
so what is being free mean to you?