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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: seasonal
thank for clearing up what profits are
so the govt will decide what drs make?
who would then want to be a dr?
just where and when are profits appropriate?
originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: DanDanDat
Who works for society needs? ... I sure hope it isn't me, I only want to have to work for my wants and desires.
And in that one statement you underline what is wrong with society.
You just take for granted that water comes out of taps, that the roads are there to drive on etc etc.
Without society to provide the basics you would be dead by now.
WHat you said above, is parroting the profit driven world you live in.
That is to say, you are profit driven. Only you can change that.
P
originally posted by: DanDanDat
originally posted by: pheonix358
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: pheonix358
what other industries are "wrong" to make profits?
In my footer is a book link. It spells out another system based on needs and wants. The needs should be met by society and the wants / desires you need to work for.
Unbridled profits are simply wrong but humanity has lost its humanity.
P
Who works for society needs? ... I sure hope it isn't me, I only want to have to work for my wants and desires.
originally posted by: Flatfish
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: seasonal
thank for clearing up what profits are
so the govt will decide what drs make?
who would then want to be a dr?
just where and when are profits appropriate?
It's not appropriate for your local fire department to profit off it's services. The same is true for public police protection.
It's not appropriate to provide public education based on a profit margin.
It's not appropriate to make a profit from disaster relief. You know, like the Red Cross. Otherwise it would be called disaster opportunity.
Any "public service industry" should be performed on a not for profit basis.
The same is true for healthcare, it should not be constructed around a for profit model, lest the poor wouldn't get any care at all.
This doesn't mean that doctors, teachers, firefighters, policemen, disaster relief workers, etc. don't earn a living.
You could ask the same question of any of those professions, "Who would want to become one?" And the answer would be... Someone.
And yes just like here in America, doctors earn more than the average bear.
Probably has a lot to do with the years of extra education required in order to be qualified to perform the task.
Go figure!
originally posted by: Flatfish
originally posted by: DanDanDat
originally posted by: pheonix358
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: pheonix358
what other industries are "wrong" to make profits?
In my footer is a book link. It spells out another system based on needs and wants. The needs should be met by society and the wants / desires you need to work for.
Unbridled profits are simply wrong but humanity has lost its humanity.
P
Who works for society needs? ... I sure hope it isn't me, I only want to have to work for my wants and desires.
Policemen, firefighters, teachers, social workers and many, many more.
When you get right down to it, most people work for the needs of society. Some more directly than others.
But knowing how you feel about the subject, I'm glad you don't work for the needs of society either. I doubt you'd be a very happy or productive worker.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: DanDanDat
well guess i have wasted many years working to be self sufficient
son of a nutcracker
the govt should have been taking care of this
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
so who gets to profit at their work and who does not?
will the govt also tell an artist what is "appropriate" to charge for a painting or a song?
this is smoke cloud bs
great drs should make more than crappy ones
the socialist models you are all praising are not "free"
the govt devides how much you pay
and you still have to buy private insurance to get the care you want
sounds like an even biger scam
originally posted by: shooterbrody
the socialist models you are all praising are not "free"