Woman could face jail time for laughing at Jeff Sessions confirmation hearing.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Being escorted out doesn't mean arrested. She was disruptive. Sorry, not allowed.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Being escorted out doesn't mean arrested. She was disruptive. Sorry, not allowed.

That didn't look like being "escorted" anywhere, unless the definition has drastically changed.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: wheresthebody
A woman began laughing during Jeff Sessions' Senate confirmation hearing. She may now be sentenced to a year in prison.

Even though she was there in protest and causing a disruption, facing jail time for this is insane.

I'm so glad that I don't live in america, good luck to you all.


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Land of the free my arse.

I expected no less . Why in SHEOL would you think that disruption should not be against the law ? Try it in court in the UK . Or most any other country for that matter....

Not at all. I am wondering in what logical and reasonable society she deserves to face one year in jail. Her arrest is no mystery even though the public disturbance would have been far more minimal if she wasn't escorted out.

Exactly.

I just don't understand the idea that one year in prison is an appropriate punishment. If true, what follows.

originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

originally posted by: essentialtremors

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: wheresthebody

For laughing? It looks like she did a lot more than that.

Yes, again I say she did nothing but make a tiny sound until they began dragging her out.

Sooo, her actions caused a disruption of legal proceedings?

Pretty sure thats, uhhh....illegal.

From the looks of the three videos I've seen of the incident, the legal proceeding hadn't been disrupted until they started dragging her off. So until they disrupted the legal proceeding to arrest her, she wasn't disrupting anything.

Would they have arrested her, drug her out causing more of a disruption if she followed the law?
She is responsible for her actions. Period.

The jury decided she was guilty. Period.

I don't think she should spend more than 5 days in jail, but I'm also not the judge.

I've seen people end up way worse for just showing a facial expression during a legal proceeding.

None of this, I repeat, none of this would have happened if she wouldn't have been so insolent. Time and place.

a reply to: essentialtremors

Again, I ask, how did she break the law by laughing? How was it disruptive? I barely noticed it myself until I had someone point me to the part of the recording in question.

I hyear, through Shelby's speech, more sounds of doors opening and closing, chairs squeaking, shuffles, ect. I'm missing the part about her laugh (if you could call it that) being disruptive, when it was barely noticeable at all?

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

I'm guessing that it has more to do with the fact that she had already drawn attention to herself by being there solely for protesting.

Whatever the reason, it was enough for a jury to convict.

Probably had something to do with intent.

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originally posted by: essentialtremors
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

I'm guessing that it has more to do with the fact that she had already drawn attention to herself by being there solely for protesting.

Whatever the reason, it was enough for a jury to convict.

Probably had something to do with intent.

Ok, I get that part. I mean, she was dressed up in that stupid Code Pink crap, and squalling like an idiot when she got dragged out. But she was allowed to be there, along with her group, in the first place. I am just not seeing "intent" here, because I'm not seeing disruption.

the jury did see differently. However, even giving the jury the benefit of the doubt, the potential sentencing is pretty damned extreme. For a "disruption" that can be considered debatable, a year in jail is not only excessive, but counter productive.

I suppose she should have left quietly.

True I agree she should have but she should not have been dragged out for that little sound anyway.
It was possible it was not even something she meant to do like she said, just a chuckle slipped when you hear something you find funny.

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: Indigo5

You and I may be the only two people who understand that within the confines of this thread.

Not really, some people love to be behind any law when it suits. The only problem I have is that nobody present laughed when Trump was sworn in. I did it at home, presumably I might get arrested if I ever go to the states though.

I wonder what would have happened if someone did a little chuckle like that when Trump was sworn in.

A slap on the wrist, time served and amybe a fine is all this lady deserves, if even that. But she does need to understand (like others) that there is a time and place.

BUT, she did get her point across and her 15min of fame, so as long as she can come to terms with her punishment (whatever that may be) then she should be happy with that and move on. Her voice was heard.

originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: seeker1963

She was protesting. Protest: a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.

Weather or not is was disruptive doesn't detract from the action of protest. By the very nature of many protests they are disruptive. Civil disobedience, for example. If you have to get a permit to protest, it's no longer a protest.

if she wants to protest she can stand on the sidewalk and laugh herself silly.

inside a congressional hearing is NOT a designated protest zone.

code pink has been doing this stuff for years knowing Obama &co would leave them alone. new sheriff in town. maybe they'll learn a little respect.

originally posted by: SolAquarius

originally posted by: wheresthebody
I just want to clarify that I don't necessarily think she was in the right to cause a disruption, or that she should go without any kind of retribution for her actions, it's the idea of a prison sentence specifically that I find so bewildering.

Yes I might get crap for saying this but ...meh

I could see a few days in jail for this but a year in prison seems a bit excessive for this.

A year, lol, bet she didn't see THAT coming!

And the unfortunate break-up of her family.

Oh wait! She's not an illegal. So it's fine.

Orange is the new (code) pink.

She faces up to a year in jail and or fine. She was found guilty but I dont think she as been sentenced yet. If not I highly doubt she will be sentenced to jail for a year.

a reply to: wheresthebody

She was being deliberately disruptive, and deserves what she gets. One cannot simply behave badly like that, at such an event, with no consequences. What she did is not lawful protest.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: wheresthebody

She was being deliberately disruptive, and deserves what she gets. One cannot simply behave badly like that, at such an event, with no consequences. What she did is not lawful protest.

You seem to be forgetting that laws dont apply to people on the left. Its like the book Animal Farm - Everyone is created equally, but some are more equal than others.

If people on the right behaved in the same manner as Maxine Waters is doing the term racist would be used every other word by the left.

How Trump refusing to accept the outcome of the election is dangerous to our "democracy" (Republic) while its not dangerous to it when Clinton throws a temper tantrum is further proof of how out of touch Democrats have become. They have become the part of Elites and yet somehow cant figure out why they keep losing elections.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: wheresthebody

She was being deliberately disruptive, and deserves what she gets. One cannot simply behave badly like that, at such an event, with no consequences. What she did is not lawful protest.

You seem to be forgetting that laws dont apply to people on the left. Its like the book Animal Farm - Everyone is created equally, but some are more equal than others.

If people on the right behaved in the same manner as Maxine Waters is doing the term racist would be used every other word by the left.

How Trump refusing to accept the outcome of the election is dangerous to our "democracy" (Republic) while its not dangerous to it when Clinton throws a temper tantrum is further proof of how out of touch Democrats have become. They have become the part of Elites and yet somehow cant figure out why they keep losing elections.

I know, and I am so ashamed of myself!! Er, not!

That's exactly the issue here; some people think that, because they don't like Jeff Sessions, it's somehow acceptable for that woman and her pals to break the law, and there should be no consequences. The same people didn't seem to have a problem with people who disrupted O's speeches being removed or charged! Simple fact is, she broke the law, caused a disturbance in court, and is now facing her punishment. All considered, the way so many act today, I half hope she does get a year in jail! We have celebrities talking about blowing up the White House these days, and people on the streets saying it's acceptable to attack someone with a different opinion. Harsher penalties are in order.

The hypocrisy regarding the election results is astounding!! All that from the lying Hillary's mouth, before she lost, and then nothing but demands to throw out the results after! I can't wait till 2018, when they lose even more seats. The more some riot and misbehave, the better results we will see, I figure!!

It's truly appalling that a site like this has people who defend her actions. So much for denying ignorance!

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

it's somehow acceptable for that woman and her pals to break the law,

Did the others do something? I am not aware of that do you have a link?
Did you watch the video where she made the sound?

The People's voice is not heard anymore and yet we let the government do as they will. They lie, they steal from us, they grow rich off the public and the media never covers any cry from the public. They don't even have to show up and do their jobs, they just live for big corps money and work with the peddlers. It truly shocks me that this is now acceptable and people have forgotten, forgotten so many things. I am afraid the youth will have their chance to understand again soon enough.