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originally posted by: matafuchs
Insurance companies helped write the ACA. They did not here. There was a time a decade ago companies paid for full coverage to entice employees now they are firing them because they cannot afford to cover them.
This is a step in the right direction...
So you want to prop-up the scamming middle man. Also, how many of those that would be thrust in to the private sector are without the means of affording the costs?
originally posted by: neo96
Here's something else the purveyors of the single payer ignore.
With a single payer.
There is absolutely NO NEED for:
Medicare.
Medicaid.
Tricare.
Planned Parenthood.
Cause you won't sure get to keep those around in you want your Dystopia.
As they would ALL be superfluous.
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Krazysh0t
But, but I thought everybody was insured under Obama care, I mean isn't that socialize care when we pay taxes into Medicare and Medicaid and the latest was expanded to provide for those that could not afford the health care industry prices?
Implying the GOP would lose seats in 2018, Democrats sang, "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye" toward the end of the voting.
Yes. It is cheaper because you are paying for the uninsured RIGHT now.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
I'm sure we'll be arguing this for weeks and months and years.
But we all will have to live with it, regardless of whether we like it or not.
Just like Obamacare.
It's not like any of us can actually make changes to it.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Yes. It is cheaper because you are paying for the uninsured RIGHT now.
No it isn't.
For health insurance to work.
There have to be less people using than those people paying for it.
That famous single payer SNIP will be reverse and increase the debt burden to idiotic proportions.
There is not won social program that can even begin to pay for itself.
NOT ONE.
Paul Markovich, CEO of Blue Shield of California: [The bill] could return us to a time when people who were born with a birth defect or who became sick could not purchase or afford insurance. ... The discrimination, whether on price or just on the ability to access insurance at all on preexisting conditions, is unconscionable. As a country, we are better than that. (Via Kaiser Health News)
Dawn Laguens, executive vice president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America: They took a bad bill that would result in 24 million people losing their insurance and higher premiums and actually made it worse.
By removing critical consumer protections that collectively ensure that the millions of individuals with pre-existing conditions can continue to purchase affordable health care coverage, the AHCA would result in higher premiums and higher deductibles for millions. Additionally, the negative impact of the AHCA is not limited to the individual insurance market. These policies also may impact the more than 130 million people with employer-sponsored insurance.
Yeah that must be why every other 1st world country in the world has a successful single payer or universal health care system right? They are all doomed to failure, except all those exceptions.