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How will that allow more Americans access to affordable health care?
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
So please explain why this will be a good thing for Americans.
I'll take an easy swing at this one: because it represents the GOP representative in Congress actually (and finally) doing something they all campaigned on, and were elected on; repealing the ACA. We all knew what we were voting for when we voted for them, and it's nice to see that bear some fruit.
That's a non-answer. Try again. How is this a good thing for Americans?
Free market/competition will be some what restored.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
This only proves that insurance companies are an enemy of the people and should be shut down. Single Payer is the only way forward--- this system of greed controlled by insurance companies is f###ing evil.
originally posted by: dragonlover12
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Hmmm... insurance thru employer costs $1000 per month.
Has a $16,000 deductible. And then only pays 80% if you are lucky.
I`d say that is pretty much unusable. Prior to Ocare the plan at work was $200 a month, with a $20 copay at the doctors office and $100 copay for ER or hospital admission.
That was a rational plan .
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
How will that allow more Americans access to affordable health care?
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
So please explain why this will be a good thing for Americans.
I'll take an easy swing at this one: because it represents the GOP representative in Congress actually (and finally) doing something they all campaigned on, and were elected on; repealing the ACA. We all knew what we were voting for when we voted for them, and it's nice to see that bear some fruit.
That's a non-answer. Try again. How is this a good thing for Americans?
Free market/competition will be some what restored.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
So please explain why this will be a good thing for Americans.
I'll take an easy swing at this one: because it represents the GOP representative in Congress actually (and finally) doing something they all campaigned on, and were elected on; repealing the ACA. We all knew what we were voting for when we voted for them, and it's nice to see that bear some fruit.
That's a non-answer. Try again. How is this a good thing for Americans?
Well, for starters the penalties for having more than 50 workers and for employing workers for full time status rather than limiting them to 30 hours per week are gone, so employment will benefit. The medical device tax is gone, which is wonderful when you consider all it did was stymie medical R&D and crush innovation. No more tanning salon tax, no more investment disincentivising medicaid capital gains tax. Personal freedom is a thing again, as is some measure of personal responsibility and exposure to natural consequences of choices made (albeit not as much as I'd support... which would be a system by which you were allowed to soar or fail entirely on your own volition.) Premiums for the average American will absolutely go down. Tax dollars will be freed for use where they are not only needed but actually used for programs that the government is Constitutionally authorized to fund (like defense and trade).
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: introvert
Overall, the direction this is going is one giant step backwards.
That's not a bad thing when you're standing on the edge of a cliff.
Cute.
Still a step backwards from the direction we should be going.
Your opinion only. Roughly 50% of the nation disagrees with you while roughly 50% agrees. Who will win? Tune it to find out!
originally posted by: Mordekaiser
a reply to: neo96
Neo, health insurance monopoly is the one format that isn't corrupt. Look-at-Canada.
It's an essential monopoly run on 25% donations that are tax deductible. Win all around.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FauxMulder
If that means no more mandate, then I'll be happy.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: neo96
So if that is the case, what is your problem with single payer?
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
How will that allow more Americans access to affordable health care?
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
So please explain why this will be a good thing for Americans.
I'll take an easy swing at this one: because it represents the GOP representative in Congress actually (and finally) doing something they all campaigned on, and were elected on; repealing the ACA. We all knew what we were voting for when we voted for them, and it's nice to see that bear some fruit.
That's a non-answer. Try again. How is this a good thing for Americans?
Free market/competition will be some what restored.
originally posted by: Kali74
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FauxMulder
If that means no more mandate, then I'll be happy.
That's really all they had to change.
I'll die without insurance.
You'll forgive me if I don't celebrate, right?
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
How will that allow more Americans access to affordable health care?
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
So please explain why this will be a good thing for Americans.
I'll take an easy swing at this one: because it represents the GOP representative in Congress actually (and finally) doing something they all campaigned on, and were elected on; repealing the ACA. We all knew what we were voting for when we voted for them, and it's nice to see that bear some fruit.
That's a non-answer. Try again. How is this a good thing for Americans?
Free market/competition will be some what restored.
Every single person in this country ALREADY has access.
Be it private or STATE.
Under the EMTALA ever single person in this country that goes to a hospital can get treatment REGARDLESS of the ability to pay.
Medicare exists created specifically for the poor.
Medicaid exists AGAIN created specifically for the poor.
Free Clinics exist EVERYWHERE.
So ask me another lie.
originally posted by: dragonlover12
That was a rational plan .