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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: neo96
If you are a 16 year old driver with multiple wrecks on your record and a heroin habit, then you should be charged the same car insurance as a 50 year old man who has never had an accident and only drives 3 miles a day to work.
You're comparing the recklessness with the natural effects of aging... or the random bad luck of pre-existing conditions?
Republicans need to grow a heart and a brain.
All about money as usual.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Versus 40% going to the government and folks that don't pull their weight this will be a godsend.
I'd gladly pay for those that are in need, versus those that are in it for greed.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Versus 40% going to the government and folks that don't pull their weight this will be a godsend.
I'd gladly pay for those that are in need, versus those that are in it for greed.
I have no sympathy for those that live in the in the US and still can't live without assistance....land of opportunity and all...1st world problems.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: jjkenobi
And you think they're not going to lose votes by passing something worse? The AHCA as it exists now primarily only benefits white males of at least the middle class. Two groups it's going to hurt the most are women and the working class. Two demographics that were key in getting Trump elected.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Versus 40% going to the government and folks that don't pull their weight this will be a godsend.
I'd gladly pay for those that are in need, versus those that are in it for greed.
I have no sympathy for those that live in the in the US and still can't live without assistance....land of opportunity and all...1st world problems.
Then it appears you have no clue of the reality in which we live.
Land of opportunity is a propaganda meme.
Don't be dumb enough to fall for it.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: introvert
It is amazing. The Right just spent the last eight years claiming the unemployment numbers were a lie and that there was actually no jobs. Now all of sudden they're claiming there's no reason a person shouldn't have a job/be able to afford healthcare.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: spiritualzombie
Well that is how the insurance game is played.
High risk ALWAYS pay more than those with moderate to low.
Again STILL can't cry foul.
Since the entire insurance game works by those that AREN'T using it paying for those that ARE.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Millions lost their coverage when Obamacare was enacted, but that was just collateral damage, right?
originally posted by: Mordekaiser
originally posted by: Cauliflower
a reply to: neo96
Except in countries like China and North Korea where health care costs a tenth of what it does in the US.
Or if we ran a basic health care system like North Korea operates the hair styling industry (women get a choice of 5 approved haircuts).
As soon as you start to underwrite detailed line items like the age men can have the government pay for their Viagra refills health care gets expensive. Generates all kinds of different special interests, profit motives and expensive lawsuits.
Single payer doesn't mean you don't get doctors. Limits on refills...it would be price, but the cheapest because everyone is helping pay for your Viagra, and Betty's car crash would be the cheapest because EVERYONE is helping pay for Betty, and etc. You will have a premium, and your Viagra will cost the same as everyone else, and if you buy too much Viagra, than you're simply the one responsible for raising the previously low Viagra premium.
originally posted by: dragonlover12
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Hmmm... insurance thru employer costs $1000 per month.
Has a $16,000 deductible. And then only pays 80% if you are lucky.
I`d say that is pretty much unusable. Prior to Ocare the plan at work was $200 a month, with a $20 copay at the doctors office and $100 copay for ER or hospital admission.
That was a rational plan .