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House passes GOP Health Bill.

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posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: neo96

Nice deflection.

Why so quick to change the focus of our conversation?


That's no deflection.

That is exactly how medicare works.

Quadruple taxation.

Just exactly WHAT do you think is going to pay for that single payer delusion?


The only delusion is that you think it would be more expensive ?????




posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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This conversation is literally insane.

People just have to be 'healthy'!

Why ?

So the government screw them over not ever worry about having to lose any one ?

And they are A LOT.

I'd rather have a quick death.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Mordekaiser

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: neo96

Nice deflection.

Why so quick to change the focus of our conversation?


That's no deflection.

That is exactly how medicare works.

Quadruple taxation.

Just exactly WHAT do you think is going to pay for that single payer delusion?


The only delusion is that you think it would be more expensive ?????


Because IT WILL BE.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: neo96


I know it take money, but we are already tax to death, by the federal government, is not like we are not giving anything.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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I have mixed feelings about this healthcare bill.

I am a constitutional conservative and know that there is no authority granted the federal government to meddle in healthcare. There is also no individual "right" to government-funded and controlled healthcare.

I am an enthusiastic Trump supporter, but I disagree with him on this one issue.

Obamacare should not have been repealed. It should have been allowed to fail -- something that it surely would have done by the end of the year. Then that failure would serve as a reminder to everyone in this country as to what happens when leftists are allowed to impose their socialist policies on this constitutional republic.

There is a much better way to handle healthcare than this new law.

Healthcare should be left to the states and block-granted by the Fed's a la Medicare.

Here's my prediction: this law will be challenged in the SCOTUS and be struck down. Obamacare stood because it was a tax. This law is an outright entitlement. By 2021 or so we will be right back where we were before the Obamacare nightmare began.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Exactly we as a nation should be a leader on free healthcare, with all the taxation we get.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: neo96

That attitude is surely why America is #1, er, Was.

It's killing us now though, thankfully I can say that easier.

Straight up it's because private insurance from a base level grows faster than single payer.

The best POSSIBLE argument is not enough people are insured to switch yet. But it's not that good at 90% of Americans having 'healthcare' already.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG

I predict it will never make pass the senate, to tell the truth is doesn't guarantee anything at all.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: Mordekaiser

Private health Insurance runs circles around anything government ran.

That's a fact that can be taken to any fiat currency bank.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

Obamacare is bells and whistles without it's core reactor that fell off years ago, it's toast, even Democrats wouldn't keep it if single payer gains no momentum at this point.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Yes, because we've tried single payer before ?????

Such good evidence. Why not try it? Millions of angry people that their cheap healthcare would be dismantled later?



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe



Versus 40% going to the government and folks that don't pull their weight this will be a godsend.


I'd gladly pay for those that are in need, versus those that are in it for greed.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:26 PM
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Obamacare was dying, if not dead already.

That is an inconvenient fact for the record.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Vasa Croe



Versus 40% going to the government and folks that don't pull their weight this will be a godsend.


I'd gladly pay for those that are in need, versus those that are in it for greed.


I scoff at the idea people in America don't generally pull their weight anyway. Unemployment is 4%? Even our homeless are employed at 50%. Insanity.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: neo96

I was talking about the scam that is insurance. You want to talk about medicare.

The Universal healthcare I'd like would not be modeled after medicare. Medicare also uses private insurance companies.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: neo96


I know it take money, but we are already tax to death, by the federal government, is not like we are not giving anything.





Imagine what we could afford if we quit playing army all across the globe. We could give American's a UHC system and a tax cut.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: neo96
Except in countries like China and North Korea where health care costs a tenth of what it does in the US.

Or if we ran a basic health care system like North Korea operates the hair styling industry (women get a choice of 5 approved haircuts).

As soon as you start to underwrite detailed line items like the age men can have the government pay for their Viagra refills health care gets expensive. Generates all kinds of different special interests, profit motives and expensive lawsuits.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Mordekaiser

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Vasa Croe



Versus 40% going to the government and folks that don't pull their weight this will be a godsend.


I'd gladly pay for those that are in need, versus those that are in it for greed.


I scoff at the idea people in America don't generally pull their weight anyway. Unemployment is 4%? Even our homeless are employed at 50%. Insanity.


That's true. Those that we have to help out are certainly busting their asses like the rest of us. The problem is that we've become a part-time, service industry nation. Low-paying jobs that require two or three to pay the bills.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: Cauliflower




Except in countries like China and North Korea where health care costs a tenth of what it does in the US.


Right !

'Murica should just go full blown commie where the STATE owns everything.

Yee hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Cauliflower




Except in countries like China and North Korea where health care costs a tenth of what it does in the US.


Right !

'Murica should just go full blown commie where the STATE owns everything.

Yee hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!


Take a look at Cuba. They have one of the best systems in the entire world.

As part of many medical programs at the Universities in my state/area, the students go to Cuba and work with their doctors.



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