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originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: JoshuaCox
I agree with your disdain concerning the role that insurance companies play, but you also pretend (or, at the very least, imply) that "every other modern country on the planet" has a perfect healthcare system, implying that this is the 'simple fix' for our healthcare/insurance costs.
I am in the middle of figuring out an internal shoulder injury (have an MRI scheduled tomorrow), and the ortho surgeon whom I have been seeing worked in the British healthcare system for more than two years. I briefly asked him what the pros and cons of each system is, and it all boiled down to this (extremely simplified, of course): We have better and quicker access to specialists, but pay the financial cost for that access. Also, in the UK, apparently not everyone is a specialist--here in the U.S., if you need a hip replacement, for example, you tend to go to a surgeon who specializes in hip replacements. In the UK system, all surgeons are required to perform hip replacements, and the wait in the UK to (more often than not) get a hip replacement from possibly a hand specialist, for example, is longer than here in U.S. for us to see a hip specialist, to the tune of almost five times as long from start to finish.
So, yes, we may be getting ripped off, and there are absolutely changes that we can make in our system that would make it "affordable care," but having the federal government meddle in it and mandate this and mandate that is not going to ever lower costs for Americans--the government needs to take it's happy hand out of the healthcare cookie jar, not grab the cookie jar and run with it.
By the way (referencing your pizza with half of the toppings comment), sure, I can go get a crappy frozen Red Baron pizza a the grocery store, or I could go to a pizza parlor and actually get a well-made pizza with good ingredients. Sure, the end result is that they are both pizza, but there is definitely a difference between the two that validates a higher cost.
You keep saying, "That's very easy math," but it's not always only about the bottom line for everyone. Quality matters, time that it takes to access medical services matters, and to some of us, we'd rather have higher confidence in who we see (in a shorter amount of time) than wonder if the guy about to do my shoulder surgery specialized in feet, but got tasked with my surgery because the government said he had to because there was a waiting list for shoulder surgeries and they want to reduce the wait time.
Not withstanding there is a reason all the 1%ers, government officials, and the elite in those countries come to the US anytime they need have life threatening medical needs...
Just imagine how much time and money would be saved if there was no need to do the hour plus long insurance paperwork.
For everything else we have substandard healthcare to everyone else... For broken bones and other immediate injuries they are in and out..
29% of Canadians had to wait four hours or longer before being seen by a practitioner during their most recent emergency department visit.
"House Republicans want to replace the protections Obamacare provides for people with pre-existing conditions with federally funded high-risk pools."
originally posted by: luthier
So sorry man. I gained about 20lbs when I became inactive.